Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

smacl wrote: »

Must've been a murkle so. Praise the lord and pass the brandy...

An Angel a murkle appeared to him.








:pac:



I've a harse outside.

MrPudding wrote: »

I love christmas myself. I have a bunch of kids, so that always makes it fun. I absolutely love making christmas dinner. That is probably the most important part for me. It just doesn't feel like christmas if I haven't done that. We went skiing a few years ago and were away for christmas. It just wasn't right.

MrP

At last something we both agree on ... Happy Christmas Mr P.

It reminds me of that famous WWI story about the Germans and the British sharing Christmas in 'no mans land' ... though I have my doubts if Mr P will join me in a few verses of Silent Night!!!

pH wrote: »

Yea, in 1914 men who would have been predominantly "Christian" on both sides ceased the wholesale slaughter of each other for a day to celebrate the pagan winter solstice - it's a nice story. It's also worth remembering that in 1915 & 1916 even "christian" men such as these soldiers had built so much hatred for each other that no further Christmas ceasefires took place.

Some were indeed Christians ... but WWI certainly had nothing to do with Christianity ... more like the machinations of the 'powers that be' ... who still keep the World turning.

... and the winter solstice occurs on the 21/22 December ... which isn't the 25th December ... which is Christmas Day ... the day most Christians (but not all) celebrate the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

... and the soldiers had no hatred for each other ... they were just placed in a position where they had to kill or be killed ... by the 'powers that be' on both sides. Most of the solidiers serving in the First World War were conscripted (with varying degrees of commitment on their parts).

The 'powers that be' like war ... because they don't fight and die in it - and large amounts of money can be made from it, especially by the Military Supplies business.
Indeed the 'powers that be' are quite fastidious about their own personal security and they wouldn't be seen next nigh or near any real risky situation in war or peace, but they have no difficulty in putting ordinary people 'in the line of fire' for whatever reason for war that 'takes their fancy'.

Soldiers don't like war ... because they die in it ... and they have considerable empathy and respect for each other, as a result.

pH wrote: »

Still nice story.

Yes indeed, the Christmas ceasefire was a small chink of light and civilisation in an otherwise barbaric and savage war.
... and the reason why no further ceasefires occurred was because the 'powers that be' made absolutely sure it didn't occur again ... and it was the ordinary soldiers who were responsible for the ceasefire in the first place ... much to the consternation of the 'top brass' on both sides.

pH wrote: »

I guess that depends, so you see yours and mrP's relationship more as the easygoing just started the war 1914 kind of animosity or is it more akin to the post Somme/Verdun/mustard gas kind?

I'm certainly extending the hand of friendship ... and seasonal greetings ... whether it is reciprocated is up to Mr P.

lazygal wrote: »

I don't .... know ... J C ...

What do you not know Lazygal?

... and getting back to the thread topic ... I don't think that Atheists are 'filthy' ... or that they are stealing Christmas ... they are very welcome to join in the fun, just like everybody else.

... and no, I wouldn't consider it hypocritical for an Atheist to join in the Christmas festivities ... as most of these activities are more cultural than religious in nature, nowadays.

... or how about this for an Atheist's Christmas tree?

lazygal wrote: »

He looks like Santa, my favourite mythical character after god.

He does ... doesn't he?

... quite an interesting sub-liminal message about Mr Darwin !!:)

Could this mean that when children stop believing in Santa ... they will also stop believing in Darwin?