The Anglo Irish Tapes

blade1 · 25-06-2013 11:09AM

geeksauce wrote: »

I mean everyone not just people on Boards, my friends talk about the need to protest lads down the pub

Ah yes, down the pub, where all the worlds problems are sorted.
To the pub everyone!!!!
Lets get this **** sorted!

donegal_road · 25-06-2013 11:11AM

there was a fatal road accident here two nights ago. A 19 year old died at the scene. Someone knew CPR and they were able to resuscitate him twice until the ambulance arrived. Unfortunately because a shortage of ambulances due to cutbacks, it took 2 hours for it to arrive. That boy may be alive today if he had got emergency treatment sooner. The country is without basic services because of the likes of Anglo.

tayto lover · 25-06-2013 11:13AM

PlainP wrote: »

What can I do as a citizen of this country in relation to this.

I don't normally stick my neck out or complain much or get involved with government dealings as I feel that I am just a speck and any issues I have will not be heard or dealt with appropriately,

BUT

I am livid about this, livid at the government past and present, livid at all the incompetent sh*t heads that sit in their big offices playing with my life, my childrens lives the lives of all the normal hard working people of this country.

What can I do?

Who can I contact?

Where will my voice be heard......

Refuse to pay your mortgage and close your bank account.
If enough did that they would get the message very quickly.
You don't even have to leave your chair.

Formalhaut · 25-06-2013 11:14AM

I'm practically sick with anger after having listened to those tapes. So, not only was the underwriting of Anglo presented to the country as a fait accompli by FF in 2008 with zero debate, we now find out these sociopaths were laughing about it.

Meanwhile the state is cutting benefits and screwing hardworking people for the last penny in tax.

Why aren't people taking to the streets about this? What is it with the Irish? An ingrained fear of authority / money? I genuinely don't get it. If this was Greece or Spain there would be mass demonstrations and riots.

The only reason people think they can get away with **** like this is because the people of this country refuse to hold them directly to account. They need to be ****ing frightened of the population, otherwise they'l just continue to shaft us.

flutered · 25-06-2013 11:15AM

geeksauce wrote: »

I mean everyone not just people on Boards, my friends talk about the need to protest lads down the pub and golf club talk about it and nobody does anything.

If you read the threads here about the HHC and LPT you would see that there was no way that the Govt would introduce either because there would be riots in the streets, yet both came in with little or no fuss.9QUOTE

look around boards or any other message board and you will find the reason why, many many posters suddenly arrive claiming that theose who do are worse criminals than seanie, people who object are harried, they are and have been goaded, pr people and others deviling seem to be the order of the day or perhaps night, look how lord suctch got to manage a pillar bank, the other pillar bank have the same guy all through the mire, what happened got a handy bonusm so good he had to refuse some of it trying to do a pontiud pilot of it, has not one of the major players in ango got to head up a quango, who appointed him, the current shower, this **** and his equals should be blacklisted and never again to work in this state, also all pensions rights removed.

mikom · 25-06-2013 11:16AM

Another lad that I hope dies roarin'

Neary, the financial regulator at the time, who if memory serves me correct received over a €600,000 pay-off on retirement alongside an annual pension of over €100,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuHRulXfzGA

Formalhaut · 25-06-2013 11:17AM

An inquiry would be a whitewash, and would swallow up yet more taxpayers money, which would go directly into the pockets of the usual suspect lawyers.

The establishment of this country are laughing at us.

crazygeryy · 25-06-2013 11:17AM

i just want to see the two guys on the tape penniless and homeless.is that to much to ask?
****ers.:mad:

ps i wish these tapes had come out BEFORE the property tax was to be paid.maybe then the whole country would go no **** off we are not paying it.

RiverOfLove · 25-06-2013 11:18AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Refuse to pay your mortgage and close your bank account.
If enough did that they would get the message very quickly.
You don't even have to leave your chair.

Stop paying taxes too would be another good one.

Many people turned around and paid up their new obligations in HHC and LPT while such crap came out that a former chairman of Anglo was receiving 800,000 euro of a yearly pay pack. Enabling this fcuking sh1t.

AnOrdinaryJoe · 25-06-2013 11:18AM

The facts are...... the country is run by a small band of elite self serving parasitic gob****es, made up from the upper echelons of the broad spectrum of 'the state' and the banks, the so called 'elite', people who have no regard for the ordinary man and woman, and their children, and who are out simply to fill their boots whilst they can and at the expense of the aforementioned man, woman and child. By the time the whole thing comes tumbling down (there are many who think we haven't seen anything yet and that still us ordinary plebs have not been told the whole truth, or 'the truth'...... by that time of course the self serving feckers will have looted the country and stripped the cupboards bare...... and made sure that their position is secure. This is the reality of what we have.

And it is the same in UK...... same story, different faces, with Royal Bank of Scotland, owners of our lovely Ulster Bank, having been the largest parasite there.

I think its a case of many of us having woken up to the fact that we are being shafted by 'these people'....... when people look for an enemy, it is these people who are the real enemies of society.

Meanwhile they live in their big houses, with their humungous salaries and pension arrangements in place.

One last point.... could it be that the whole Sean Quinn issue was used by certain people as a distraction to the wider realities of what was going on at Anglo Irish ?

Just a thought !

geeksauce · 25-06-2013 11:18AM

blade1 wrote: »

Ah yes, down the pub, where all the worlds problems are sorted.
To the pub everyone!!!!
Lets get this **** sorted!

As much chance of getting it sorted there as anywhere else, however that was not my point, the point is Irish people talk about protesting yet never do a thing about actually protesting something always comes up giving them an excuse not to protest, too much hard work protesting is.

Missing the point however is very easy! :rolleyes:

geeksauce · 25-06-2013 11:20AM

Formalhaut wrote: »

I'm practically sick with anger after having listened to those tapes. So, not only was the underwriting of Anglo presented to the country as a fait accompli by FF in 2008 with zero debate, we now find out these sociopaths were laughing about it.

Meanwhile the state is cutting benefits and screwing hardworking people for the last penny in tax.

Why aren't people taking to the streets about this? What is it with the Irish? An ingrained fear of authority / money? I genuinely don't get it. If this was Greece or Spain there would be mass demonstrations and riots.

The only reason people think they can get away with **** like this is because the people of this country refuse to hold them directly to account. They need to be ****ing frightened of the population, otherwise they'l just continue to shaft us.

Laziness I reckon

Hunchback · 25-06-2013 11:20AM

geeksauce wrote: »

There wont be any protests at all, Irish people dont protest, they talk about how we should all protest but when it comes to actually turning up and marching they are too busy, either "oh I have to work", or "I have nobody to mind the kids that day", or "its raining"

100,000 marched against the Iraq war.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 25-06-2013 11:21AM

donegal_road wrote: »

there was a fatal road accident here two nights ago. A 19 year old died at the scene. Someone knew CPR and they were able to resuscitate him twice until the ambulance arrived. Unfortunately because a shortage of ambulances due to cutbacks, it took 2 hours for it to arrive. That boy may be alive today if he had got emergency treatment sooner. The country is without basic services because of the likes of Anglo.

A&E closed in roscommon hospital.
How many people have died due to cutbacks as a result of these people?

TheFOB · 25-06-2013 11:22AM

donegal_road wrote: »

there was a fatal road accident here two nights ago. A 19 year old died at the scene. Someone knew CPR and they were able to resuscitate him twice until the ambulance arrived. Unfortunately because a shortage of ambulances due to cutbacks, it took 2 hours for it to arrive. That boy may be alive today if he had got emergency treatment sooner. The country is without basic services because of the likes of Anglo.

How about taking the initiative and bring the man in a car.

FamousSeamus · 25-06-2013 11:23AM

Why do i get the feeling politicians will come out and condemn this, all parties will blame each other and try look angry and serious and after a few weeks the media will have moved onto something else and nothing will really be done about except a few angry words and an apology

jobeenfitz · 25-06-2013 11:25AM

To hear all the politicians now calling for an inquiry is laughable. No matter what party, they are all part of the big circle and don't really want the masses all riled up. "Lets keep this as calm as possible until the peasants move on or forget" is probably the aim and that's what will happen eventually.

RiverOfLove · 25-06-2013 11:26AM

geeksauce wrote: »

Laziness I reckon

Apathy too.
Some people just don't care what happens.

Formalhaut · 25-06-2013 11:26AM

geeksauce wrote: »

Laziness I reckon

To me it seems like people don't really care. They just go out the door to work every day, slaves to servicing their inflated mortgages, they want to keep their heads down and not rock the boat. There's fear, or something like fear, at the bottom of it.

Or else cynicism - we've seen so much corruption in this country that we're inured to it and don't believe anyone is capable of honourable conduct. It's ****ing tragic.

'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' -
that was written by an Irishman.

Zebra3 · 25-06-2013 11:28AM

Was it just me or did Edna seem to be smirking yesterday when he was going on about the "outrage"?

RiverOfLove · 25-06-2013 11:32AM

TheFOB wrote: »

How about taking the initiative and bring the man in a car.

You can't do that. You you need an ambulance for proper transportation especially in something as serious as that. You would do more damage removing him, if he was to live like if his spine was injured from the crash.

RIP

geeksauce · 25-06-2013 11:40AM

Formalhaut wrote: »

To me it seems like people don't really care. They just go out the door to work every day, slaves to servicing their inflated mortgages, they want to keep their heads down and not rock the boat. There's fear, or something like fear, at the bottom of it.

Or else cynicism - we've seen so much corruption in this country that we're inured to it and don't believe anyone is capable of honourable conduct. It's ****ing tragic.

'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' -
that was written by an Irishman.

Cynicism could be it alright, I think alot just arent bothered, there is so much corruption a protest wont change anything

RayCon · 25-06-2013 11:43AM

geeksauce wrote: »

Cynicism could be it alright,

It's not like the cynicism is unjustified .... honestly , do you think anything will happen to these 2 f**ks ?

25-06-2013 11:48AM

so I do not to read over 30 pages what is this all about

Sergeant · 25-06-2013 11:52AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Was it just me or did Edna seem to be smirking yesterday when he was going on about the "outrage"?

Yes he did. He then retired to his office where he was heard laughing manically while stroking a white cat and sipping on a 1982 Bordeaux that was paid for using taxpayers money.

25-06-2013 11:53AM

donegal_road wrote: »

there was a fatal road accident here two nights ago. A 19 year old died at the scene. Someone knew CPR and they were able to resuscitate him twice until the ambulance arrived. Unfortunately because a shortage of ambulances due to cutbacks, it took 2 hours for it to arrive. That boy may be alive today if he had got emergency treatment sooner. The country is without basic services because of the likes of Anglo.

Never forget that it was the POLITICIANS that lumped the banks debts onto the publics shoulders. Had the banks been left alone the bankers would have been unemployed.

IT WAS NOT OUR DEBT but the politicians thought it should be.

Get out on the streets or never expect justice in this country. Never expect a fair go and do not expect your children to have a fair chance. Do expect to have no pension.

Get out and protest. If you don`t then expect no sympathy or justice.

25-06-2013 11:54AM

geeksauce wrote: »

Cynicism could be it alright, I think alot just arent bothered, there is so much corruption a protest wont change anything

Wrong, doing nothing wont change anything but a protest might.

A protest will need to be ongoing. You would know in a day or two if it would get the support

crusher000 · 25-06-2013 11:56AM

Cause nothing ever matters nothing matters at all the needle returns to the start of the song and we all carry on like before ........

AnOrdinaryJoe · 25-06-2013 11:56AM

Maybe....... the answer is for all might be to become anaesthetised so we are too relaxed or unable to rise up and protest.

Have you seen how the price of alcohol in the supermarkets is relatively cheap ?

And, since AIB is now in public ownership, perhaps there should be some sort of advantage or dispensation to the long suffering Irish taxpayer...... maybe we can all get a discount on cocaine via the setting up of a shareholder discount arrangement arranged by chaps in negotiation with other chaps, possibly using the old wider money laundering / drug cartel contact network if you get my drift.

With the combination of cheap booze and cheap cocaine sure we'd all be chilled out (anaesthetised) to the point of 'what was that thingy thingy was talking about. I forget, ach sure don't be worrying about it. Another 20p can of super strength lager anyone ?'

Sure,along with the 'banks are honest and trustworthy' myth isn't that another myth, that Irish people like to drink a lot.

Maybe it has a ring of truth to it...... thankfully and beneficially perhaps to the bould boys.

geeksauce · 25-06-2013 11:58AM

RayCon wrote: »

It's not like the cynicism is unjustified .... honestly , do you think anything will happen to these 2 f**ks ?

Absolutely not, they will live happily ever after on their huge pensions and salaries, laughing ever more at the silly taxpayer.

The Anglo Irish Tapes

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