The Anglo Irish Tapes

bumper234

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

Maybe this is 'ironic', but when I read this thread a friggin' ad for Danske Bank is often displayed....... thread about the appalling conduct of a bank accompanied with an ad for a bank which many in Ireland are none too happy with. Fact: In Denmark, Danske Bank, a Danish bank, had to pull a television ad after pressure from social networking savvy protestors, after the schiesters misappropriated images of anti bank protestors (Occupy Wall Street protestors) and superimposed dollar bills over their mouths (was the message money will shut everybody up). Danske Bank's 'NEW NORMAL' ads show a huge factory with thousands of identically dressed and identically 'demeanoured' clones in a production line setting...... the NEW NORMAL, a type of 'normal' which may be becoming 'normal' for so many..... production line work scenarios on poverty wages. Danske Bank's top cheeses in UK & Ireland, Gerry Mallon, appeared at a re-launch of the book 'Hillsborough - The Truth', the definitive book about the Hillsborough football disaster in which 96 men, women and children died, by Professor Phil Scratton, the Belfast event sponsored by Mr Mallon's organisation. At the event Mallon alluded to how important the truth blah blah blah came out..... which of course it did, via the 2012 Independent Hillsborough Enquiry, and it transpired that police had falsified and 'amended' statements, etc. At the event Prof Scratton referred to how the rights of ordinary people were being trampled upon by the interests of others with their own agendas, agendas which could not be reconciled with the rights and interests of 'the ordinary plebs' being trampled on. So.... we had a situation where a bank chief (of UK and Ireland) alluded to his understanding of the importance of the sort of principles like openness, transparency, what is right (as opposed to wrong), common decency, etc....... yet try to get the fecker answer questions relating to the conduct of his own organisation and his subordinates..... that's a different thing altogether, and a position which is illustrative of yet more hypocrisy and double standards in a banking sector which is drowning in hypocrisy and double standards. the 'New Normal'....... more the 'New More Up Yours Ordinary Plebs of Ireland (and UK)'. Now where have we heard and experienced this sort of 'thing' before ? Answer: Everywhere there is / are a bank / banks involved.

HOLY WALL OF TEXT BATMAN!!!!!!:eek:

Paragraphs son paragraphs!

SpaceTime

That german comment will make it into the German tabloids. The Germans already feel like they've been taken for mugs by these institutions.

Leiva

fúcking hell i have just listened to the next release of the Anglo recordings with Drumm etc.:mad:

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/abuse-the-bank-guarantee-dont-get-caught-david-drumm-29369275.html

Why oh why aint these guys being picked up this morning by the authorities.

Zebra3

SpaceTime wrote: »

That german comment will make it into the German tabloids. The Germans already feel like they've been taken for mugs by these institutions.

How do they feel like mugs?

Their banks made huge profits during the Celtic Bubble through lending excess money they had to banks here and then they got reimbursed by the Irish taxpayer when the bubble burst.

snubbleste

SpaceTime wrote: »

That german comment will make it into the German tabloids. The Germans already feel like they've been taken for mugs by these institutions.

Just in case it does not, tell them
http://www.bild.de/system/kontakt/bildchannel-home/kontakt-17282730.bild.html
Ok, who blabbed to Bild?
http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/politik-ausland/irische-pleite-banker-verhoehnten-deutsche-kunden-30995064.bild.html

SEPT 23 1989

Any help from Germany can be forgotten about now

these really are treacherous b@stards

mike65

I blame the indo for spilling the beans now. They should have waited until any outstanding deal were completed. Treachery!

AnOrdinaryJoe

Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryJoe (re-posted with paragraffs..... hope this is easier to read Bumper)

Maybe this is 'ironic', but when I read this thread a friggin' ad for Danske Bank is often displayed....... thread about the appalling conduct of a bank accompanied with an ad for a bank which many in Ireland are none too happy with.

Fact: In Denmark, Danske Bank, a Danish bank, had to pull a television ad after pressure from social networking savvy protestors, after the schiesters misappropriated images of anti bank protestors (Occupy Wall Street protestors) and superimposed dollar bills over their mouths (was the message money will shut everybody up).

Danske Bank's 'NEW NORMAL' ads show a huge factory with thousands of identically dressed and identically 'demeanoured' clones in a production line setting...... the NEW NORMAL, a type of 'normal' which may be becoming 'normal' for so many..... production line work scenarios on poverty wages.

Danske Bank's top cheeses in UK & Ireland, Gerry Mallon, appeared at a re-launch of the book 'Hillsborough - The Truth', the definitive book about the Hillsborough football disaster in which 96 men, women and children died, by Professor Phil Scratton, the Belfast event sponsored by Mr Mallon's organisation. At the event Mallon alluded to how important the truth blah blah blah came out..... which of course it did, via the 2012 Independent Hillsborough Enquiry, and it transpired that police had falsified and 'amended' statements, etc.

At the event Prof Scratton referred to how the rights of ordinary people were being trampled upon by the interests of others with their own agendas, agendas which could not be reconciled with the rights and interests of 'the ordinary plebs' being trampled on.

So.... we had a situation where a bank chief (of UK and Ireland) alluded to his understanding of the importance of the sort of principles like openness, transparency, what is right (as opposed to wrong), common decency, etc....... yet try to get the fecker answer questions relating to the conduct of his own organisation and his subordinates..... that's a different thing altogether, and a position which is illustrative of yet more hypocrisy and double standards in a banking sector which is drowning in hypocrisy and double standards.

The 'New Normal'....... more the 'New More Up Yours Ordinary Plebs of Ireland (and UK)'. Now where have we heard and experienced this sort of 'thing' before ? Answer: Everywhere there is / are a bank / banks involved.

RikkFlair

Leiva wrote: »

fúcking hell i have just listened to the next release of the Anglo recordings with Drumm etc.:mad:

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/abuse-the-bank-guarantee-dont-get-caught-david-drumm-29369275.html

Why oh why aint these guys being picked up this morning by the authorities.

The absolute arrogance of them. They should all be hung, only its impossible to hang a man with a brass neck :rolleyes:

bumper234

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryJoe (re-posted with paragraffs..... hope this is easier to read Bumper)

Maybe this is 'ironic', but when I read this thread a friggin' ad for Danske Bank is often displayed....... thread about the appalling conduct of a bank accompanied with an ad for a bank which many in Ireland are none too happy with.

Fact: In Denmark, Danske Bank, a Danish bank, had to pull a television ad after pressure from social networking savvy protestors, after the schiesters misappropriated images of anti bank protestors (Occupy Wall Street protestors) and superimposed dollar bills over their mouths (was the message money will shut everybody up).

Danske Bank's 'NEW NORMAL' ads show a huge factory with thousands of identically dressed and identically 'demeanoured' clones in a production line setting...... the NEW NORMAL, a type of 'normal' which may be becoming 'normal' for so many..... production line work scenarios on poverty wages.

Danske Bank's top cheeses in UK & Ireland, Gerry Mallon, appeared at a re-launch of the book 'Hillsborough - The Truth', the definitive book about the Hillsborough football disaster in which 96 men, women and children died, by Professor Phil Scratton, the Belfast event sponsored by Mr Mallon's organisation. At the event Mallon alluded to how important the truth blah blah blah came out..... which of course it did, via the 2012 Independent Hillsborough Enquiry, and it transpired that police had falsified and 'amended' statements, etc.

At the event Prof Scratton referred to how the rights of ordinary people were being trampled upon by the interests of others with their own agendas, agendas which could not be reconciled with the rights and interests of 'the ordinary plebs' being trampled on.

So.... we had a situation where a bank chief (of UK and Ireland) alluded to his understanding of the importance of the sort of principles like openness, transparency, what is right (as opposed to wrong), common decency, etc....... yet try to get the fecker answer questions relating to the conduct of his own organisation and his subordinates..... that's a different thing altogether, and a position which is illustrative of yet more hypocrisy and double standards in a banking sector which is drowning in hypocrisy and double standards.

The 'New Normal'....... more the 'New More Up Yours Ordinary Plebs of Ireland (and UK)'. Now where have we heard and experienced this sort of 'thing' before ? Answer: Everywhere there is / are a bank / banks involved.

Nope,

Still comes off as pretty much unreadable

snubbleste

"Calls may be recorded for training purposes"

Lambsbread

Zebra3 wrote: »

Standard procedure in the bank and they would have known about it.

They were either that arrogant or that thick.

Take your pick.

After listening to the start of one of the conversations starting with "Are you Therapeutic?" and the response being "Why, because I know how to use a computer?" I would go with that thick.

The most demotivating part in all of this is that clowns like this can rise to the top of an organisation. What does that say for me

who the fug

snubbleste wrote: »

"Calls may be recorded for training purposes"

Calls may be recorded for Tribunal purposes, where the truth will __________

fill in the missing words

Can anyone recommend a book on the collapse ?

steddyeddy

I used to live in America and in the state I lived in at the time there was an increase in milk prices. People protested and the prices dropped. My uncle helped start the civil rights movement in the north in the face of deaths and danger to his life.

You can sort of guess from my experiences that I think people who make excuses about protesting like "oh the left will be there, look where that got (insert country here) or it's windy out there" are pathetic.

EdCastle

Lambsbread wrote: »

After listening to the start of one of the conversations starting with "Are you Therapeutic?" and the response being "Why, because I know how to use a computer?" I would go with that thick.

The most demotivating part in all of this is that clowns like this can rise to the top of an organisation. What does that say for me

You are theraputic?

Its easily known computers make you theraputic, staring endlessly at a screen for hours kills the brain cells.

If you want to rise to the top, get off the computer.

congress3

If something were to happen any of these individuals there wouldn't be a jury in the country that would convict them.

Nemeses

Looking at some of the extracts from that indo article

My views are

1. Someone gives you a loan you be nice, don't f*ck the person outta it or country in this case..

2. How does some one like this get so high up... and still stay there regardless. If I cost the company I work for millions... I'm quite sure I'd be fired without a pension

3. We are all screwed

4. Still screwed.

5. I'm just gonna sit at home and do nothing sure.

awec

steddyeddy wrote: »

Oh ffs seriously. If people dont have the balls too protest fair enough but I wish people would stop using excuses and sinde remarks about people who balls to protest.

It has nothing to do with having balls, people just don't want to be associated with that sort of crowd.

Can you tell me how it takes balls to give over some hard earned cash to a union every month for them to tell you how to think, and then go for a dander every so often when they feel the need to promote themselves?

Protests in Ireland have long been about ego. Too many superfluous "protests" where a load of sh!t was peddled by those sorts.

Lord Trollington

I would love to protest, but I have to work. I work in the private sector where If I take a day off its at my own expense.

I can't ring in sick and still get paid unfortunately.

There are 400,000 odd unemployed people at the moment. Vast majority of these are because of the Bubble.

If none of these people are motivated enough to do anything in their free time well then we deserve to be shafted.

TheFOB

FFS the IrishIndependent website is focking shít. If you're going to break a major story at least sort your focking website out, place the list of videos clearly where people can find them.

EdCastle

Lord Trollington wrote: »

There are 400,000 odd unemployed people at the moment. Vast majority of these are because of the Bubble.
.

That's just on the live register but its way higher than that realistically, we're just better at massaging the figures than Spain.

I'd say we are closer to 20% when factoring all those on interns and fas programmes and..... then all those not entitled to dole but still can't find work like self employed.

up for anything

Wouldn't it be great if Edward Snowden ended up here in Ireland. We could swap him for David Drumm. The cheek of the Americans trying to intimidate the world into sending him home.

SEPT 23 1989

The time to protest will be outside the tribunal,every day that it goes on,
when one of the psychopath bankers or civil servants or retired politicians arrive the crowd will vent their rage at them

this is what i think will happen

Baidin

Let's have a long drawn out inquiry so the tax payers can throw some more crumbs back up to the top table. A 10-20 year merry-go-round where the lawyers and solicitors get their fair share of the collapse. It's hardly fair that they haven't got in on the action yet. Poor bastards.

Birroc

Leiva wrote: »

fúcking hell i have just listened to the next release of the Anglo recordings with Drumm etc.:mad:

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/abuse-the-bank-guarantee-dont-get-caught-david-drumm-29369275.html

Why oh why aint these guys being picked up this morning by the authorities.

Because there is zero accountability in Ireland. All the bankers, big Accountant firms, big Law firms are up to their neck in it and they are aided and abbetted by senior civil servants and politicians.

Now some of these bankers are civil servants thus making them even easier to "protect".

Disgusting pigs.

skimpydoo

Lord Trollington wrote: »

I would love to protest, but I have to work. I work in the private sector where If I take a day off its at my own expense.

I can't ring in sick and still get paid unfortunately.

There are 400,000 odd unemployed people at the moment. Vast majority of these are because of the Bubble.

If none of these people are motivated enough to do anything in their free time well then we deserve to be shafted.

Have the protest on a Saturday no excuse then for not turning up.

Wacker The Attacker

What I still don't understand is why the government of the time made the biggest economic decision in the history of the state without the relevant information.

I understand that they were browbeaten to a degree but surely that's not a good enough reason.

bumper234

skimpydoo wrote: »

Have the protest on a Saturday no excuse then for not turning up.

Yeah lets inconvenience all of the old dears who are out doing the weekly shop. Meanwhile politicians, Bankers etc are all out of the city in their big houses laughing at the plebs protesting.

PlainP

What can I do as a citizen of this country in relation to this.

I don't normally stick my neck out or complain much or get involved with government dealings as I feel that I am just a speck and any issues I have will not be heard or dealt with appropriately,

BUT


I am livid about this, livid at the government past and present, livid at all the incompetent sh*t heads that sit in their big offices playing with my life, my childrens lives the lives of all the normal hard working people of this country.

What can I do?

Who can I contact?

Where will my voice be heard......

aloyisious

Well, one idea would be to have a weekday protest organized by Joe Higgins TD at the IBRC offices to ask them why they employed the two gents involved in the story, given their Anglo involvement. That, if anything, is a sign of business as usual, despite any claim of "well, we had to employ people with expertise" and show's how expertise can bite you in the ass. Hopefully all the federal, national, Local and financial authorities in the US dealing with David Drumm over there will be provided with true complete copies of the tapes, so they can look at him with open eyes whilst dealing with him.