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Schmidt confirmed as new Irish coach and the villagers rejoiced (except trouttrout)

  • 27-04-2013 5:15pm
    #1
    trouttrout
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭


    from IT's

    Great news

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/irfu-expected-to-name-schmidt-as-coach-next-week-1.1375417?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    The IRFU are expected to confirm Joe Schmidt as the new Ireland coach by Wednesday.

    “I think they (the IRFU) are trying to get things done pretty soon,” said Schmidt after Leinster’s 44-16 defeat of Biarritz at the RDS to reach the Amlin Challenge cup final against Stade Francais on May 17th, again, in Dublin.

    “Whoever it is going to be, I’m not sure who else they are talking to, but we have had a couple of chats, but there is nothing definitive. I hope one way or the other that there is something definitive by early next week.”


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  • #2
    tolosenc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    I love the way the IRFU are saying nothing and Schmidt is saying "yeah, I've got the job".

    Not the typical "yes man" that permeates the IRFU.


  • #3
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    tolosenc wrote: »
    I love the way the IRFU are saying nothing and Schmidt is saying "yeah, I've got the job".

    Not the typical "yes man" that permeates the IRFU.

    Looks to me like he said everything but that!

    I do love his handling of the media though


  • #4
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    From that quote I don't see where Schmidt says he think he has it. To me he's acknowledged that he's been interviewed and still has to wait on the outcome.


  • #5
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    if he has, then he should lead the summer tour, there is no point in having the wrong dog barking, it should be used as a get to know you, while telling them the game he wants them to play.


  • #6
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    flutered wrote: »
    if he has, then he should lead the summer tour, there is no point in having the wrong dog barking, it should be used as a get to know you, while telling them the game he wants them to play.

    This has already been covered elsewhere. No way anyone but Kiss should take the summer tour.


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  • #7
    Tox56
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    This has already been covered elsewhere. No way anyone but Kiss should take the summer tour.

    Now that he's been given it yes, but it was silly to give it to him in the first place


  • #8
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Tox56 wrote: »
    Now that he's been given it yes, but it was silly to give it to him in the first place

    Even if he hadn't it'd be a bad idea to give it to Schmidt. Wouldn't be fair at all. Someone else has to do it. And I think Kiss is the best option available.


  • #9
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,734 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    great choice - big loss to leinster but sure Dawson will choose someone equally good - what happened to all the , he's returning to NZ definitly , I'm certainly not surprised , he seams to like Ireland , and if the right offer was made . More excited now by Irish rugby since the heady days of early BOD ;-)


  • #10
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    thebaz wrote: »
    great choice - big loss to leinster but sure Dawson will choose someone equally good - what happened to all the , he's returning to NZ definitly , I'm certainly not surprised , he seams to like Ireland , and if the right offer was made . More excited now by Irish rugby since the heady days of early BOD ;-)

    He said on the Late Late he would be returning to NZ unless he got the Irish job to spend more time with family etc. etc., but he said he'd stay if the Ireland job was offered to him because he could spend more time with them here as the Irish job isn't 6 days a week etc.


  • #11
    whatawaster
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    If he is appointed by Wednesday he should 100% take the summer tout. Its an invaluable chance to see some of the fringe players.

    Fairness shouldn't come in to it, I'd feel for Kiss but he was just a caretaker at the end of the day


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  • #12
    Glass Prison 1214
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    .ak wrote: »
    He said on the Late Late he would be returning to NZ unless he got the Irish job to spend more time with family etc. etc., but he said he'd stay if the Ireland job was offered to him because he could spend more time with them here as the Irish job isn't 6 days a week etc.

    I interpreted it differently to that, I thought he was saying that the Irish job had appeal because it would allow him to spend more time with his son whos unwell. Didn't think that had anything to do with his family back in New Zealand. Maybe I'm wrong though.


  • #13
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    whatawaster wrote: »
    If he is appointed by Wednesday he should 100% take the summer tout. Its an invaluable chance to see some of the fringe players.

    Fairness shouldn't come in to it, I'd feel for Kiss but he was just a caretaker at the end of the day

    It has absolutely nothing to do with fairness. Schmidt should not take the summer tour.

    He will have just worked nearly 11 moths straight and will be making a massive change in his life. He has a lot of stuff to manage at home. He will be leaving his job since 2010 at short notice and will no doubt be asked to help find his successor. Or at least to prepare some form of handover to whoever the successor is (I'm sure the IRFU will let him spend some extra time with Leinster in preseason to help with the handover).

    Meanwhile that tour is already underway in that Kiss and Smal are already preparing for it. It is a lot of work that doesn't just start when they arrive in the States. So that workload is a workload that would have to be put on Schmidt as well. All while he is trying to win the Pro 12 and Amlin.

    So no, he should not 100% take the summer tour.


  • #14
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    So no, he should not 100% take the summer tour.
    Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it


  • #15
    CatFromHue
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    Declan Kidney didn't take the 2008 Summer tour to Nz and Oz which was a smart move as he was so busy with Munster. Don't see why it should be any different for Schmidt.


  • #16
    irishbucsfan
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it

    Definitely. And if he wants to go over and attend games or anything the IRFU should cover that for him. But I'd like to think they'd put no pressure on him to do anything like that and just gave him time to get himself sorted, which I'm sure they will.

    I'd say Kiss will communicate with him anyway. There's rumours he might stay on under Schmidt as defense coach.


  • #17
    Dave_The_Sheep
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    There's rumours he might stay on under Schmidt as defense coach.

    That's not something I'd have a problem with.

    His effectiveness as a coach went downhill after he took on more than the defensive coach role. In that job though, he's top notch.


  • #18
    locum-motion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Agreed. That said, he should have input into the tour, even if he doesn't run it

    FYP. (I think.)
    Please, if you want readers to understand what you mean, punctuate it!


  • #19
    wittycynic
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it

    I'd be concerned this would result in kiss's authority being undermined for the tour.


  • #20
    totallegend
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    wittycynic wrote: »
    I'd be concerned this would result in kiss's authority being undermined for the tour.

    Is that sarcasm? If not... Who cares? What does it matter how much authority Kiss has?


  • #21
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    locum-motion wrote: »
    FYP. (I think.)
    Please, if you want readers to understand what you mean, punctuate it!

    Maybe you should learn how to use full sentences and how to use parentheses before you start lecturing others on their use of grammar?

    Back on topic, I think this will be a great appointment for Irish rugby.


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  • #22
    .ak
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    Enough of the grammar nazis...


  • #23
    Neil3030
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    I'm still refusing to get my hopes up about this until I see it confirmed.

    Boy how sweet it would be...


  • #24
    Suasdaguna1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Suasdaguna1


    Worst kept secret ever.....it was a done deal from day one the minute Joe acknowledged his interest/intent re the managers position.

    I too think he's the right man.....bravo


  • #25
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    When Joe gets named Irish coach, I'm signing up to Ireland supporters clup. Had no interest in it up until now.


  • #26
    bilston
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    I'm still refusing to get my hopes up about this until I see it confirmed.

    Boy how sweet it would be...

    I think barring a massive massive u-turn from one side or the other I think you can get your hopes up.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/

    The BBC wouldn't have it as one of their lead sports stories if it wasn't going to happen.


  • #27
    Tox56
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    bilston wrote: »
    I think barring a massive massive u-turn from one side or the other I think you can get your hopes up.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/

    The BBC wouldn't have it as one of their lead sports stories if it wasn't going to happen.

    To the end of the 2016 season? Didn't see that one coming


  • #28
    .ak
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    Well, I suppose it kinda makes sense. Technically if it was 2015 his contract would be up before the RWC, and could be in line for another 2 year extension like Kidney was. This would show the IRFU have learned from their mistakes tbh.


  • #29
    its_phil
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    To the end of the 2016 season? Didn't see that one coming

    Yeah very surprised about that. Guess bringing up his kids in NZ wasn't as big a factor as some us thought. Just wanted more time to concentrate on his kid whether it was in Ireland or NZ and now he can even split some of his time between the two just like Gatland. Albeit if he does a Trapatoni and orders a brand new DVD player..... ;)


  • #30
    P_1
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    .ak wrote: »
    Well, I suppose it kinda makes sense. Technically if it was 2015 his contract would be up before the RWC, and could be in line for another 2 year extension like Kidney was. This would show the IRFU have learned from their mistakes tbh.

    Is that a pig I see flying past the blue moon? :eek:


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  • #31
    rrpc
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    P_1 wrote: »
    Is that a pig I see flying past the blue moon? :eek:
    It's actually a squadron of pigs in perfect V formation ;)


  • #32
    Skid X
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    Confirmed. Congratulations Joe.

    Irish Rugby ‏@irfurugby 2m
    Delighted to announce that Joe Schmidt is the new Ireland Head Coach. Tune in to a live press conference at 4pm on http://www.IrishRugby.ie

    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/29025.php


  • #33
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Skid X wrote: »
    Confirmed. Congratulations Joe.

    Irish Rugby ‏@irfurugby 2m
    Delighted to announce that Joe Schmidt is the new Ireland Head Coach. Tune in to a live press conference at 4pm on http://www.IrishRugby.ie

    YES


  • #34
    cityman 18
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭cityman 18


    Skid X wrote: »
    Confirmed. Congratulations Joe.

    Irish Rugby ‏@irfurugby 2m
    Delighted to announce that Joe Schmidt is the new Ireland Head Coach. Tune in to a live press conference at 4pm on http://www.IrishRugby.ie

    Brilliant news.


  • #35
    TheGoldenAges
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    I think this is appropriate :D
    1237362987_borat_dancing_with_his_fellow_karakstanians.gif


  • #36
    trouttrout
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    Great success!


    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQKWFCkMvkIP15JE_TTOoEopszWAZi7vlmI8wAP7eLESt39WW1c0Q


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  • #37
    trouttrout
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    TheGoldenAges wrote: »
    I think this is appropriate :D
    1237362987_borat_dancing_with_his_fellow_karakstanians.gif

    ahh snap!

    Ah ****e, mines not even the gif :mad:


  • #38
    TheGoldenAges
    Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    trouttrout wrote: »
    ahh snap!

    Ah ****e, mines not even the gif :mad:

    Just beat you to it, always next time :pac:


  • #39
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,938 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Great news. A word of caution though. What was the reaction to Deccie's appointment in 2008? Was there national jubilation?


  • #40
    awec
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    Cannot wait to see how we play under him! :D


  • #41
    Bogota
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    Big loss for Leinster. I wonder if the IRFU would have paid up for Sexton if they knew that by the season's end Leinster would be losing Schmidt, Sexton, Nacewa, Van Der Merve and potentially O'Driscoll.


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  • #42
    bilston
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    TheGoldenAges wrote: »
    I think this is appropriate :D
    1237362987_borat_dancing_with_his_fellow_karakstanians.gif

    We need to super impose a few of the Irish players faces on there


  • #43
    bilston
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    jacothelad wrote: »
    Great news. A word of caution though. What was the reaction to Deccie's appointment in 2008? Was there national jubilation?

    Yep, and he won a GS within a year, so it's all good.


  • #44
    Garseys
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    jacothelad wrote: »
    Great news. A word of caution though. What was the reaction to Deccie's appointment in 2008? Was there national jubilation?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55862832

    :pac:
    From one idiot to the next. I now officially don't give a f**k anymore. The IRFU aren't worth the stress


  • #45
    thiarfearr
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    Great news, he should definitely go on the summer tour imo, gets to see the fringe players and hit the ground running.


  • #46
    Larbre34
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    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/29025.php

    Officially official. Media event at 4pm

    Mixed emotions, but the very best man for the job, I hope he gets all the co-operation and buy-in he deserves from all parties. Looking forward to an upward curve in fortunes!


  • #47
    thomond2006
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    Best man for the job, I'm looking forward to the next few years under him.


  • #48
    trouttrout
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    Can not wait for the AB's in the Autumn!


  • #49
    Thanos
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    Got to wonder if having him as head coach will make BOD go for another year.......?


  • #50
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I do believe less is more, but this demands it....

    borat-dance.gif


    WA-BLOODY-HOO!


  • #51
    geekington
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭geekington


    Garseys wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55862832

    :pac:

    That is a hilarious thread, interesting to see the animosity towards Kidney and his playing style!

    The following description seems to sum up the general reaction!

    Kidney = EOS minus the backline.


    No new ideas. Nothing.


    More of the same it would seem.

    Very disappointed.


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