Schmidt confirmed as new Irish coach and the villagers rejoiced (except trouttrout)

trouttrout

from IT's

Great news

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/irfu-expected-to-name-schmidt-as-coach-next-week-1.1375417?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

The IRFU are expected to confirm Joe Schmidt as the new Ireland coach by Wednesday.

“I think they (the IRFU) are trying to get things done pretty soon,” said Schmidt after Leinster’s 44-16 defeat of Biarritz at the RDS to reach the Amlin Challenge cup final against Stade Francais on May 17th, again, in Dublin.

“Whoever it is going to be, I’m not sure who else they are talking to, but we have had a couple of chats, but there is nothing definitive. I hope one way or the other that there is something definitive by early next week.”

tolosenc

I love the way the IRFU are saying nothing and Schmidt is saying "yeah, I've got the job".

Not the typical "yes man" that permeates the IRFU.

irishbucsfan

tolosenc wrote: »

I love the way the IRFU are saying nothing and Schmidt is saying "yeah, I've got the job".

Not the typical "yes man" that permeates the IRFU.

Looks to me like he said everything but that!

I do love his handling of the media though

CatFromHue

From that quote I don't see where Schmidt says he think he has it. To me he's acknowledged that he's been interviewed and still has to wait on the outcome.

flutered

if he has, then he should lead the summer tour, there is no point in having the wrong dog barking, it should be used as a get to know you, while telling them the game he wants them to play.

irishbucsfan

flutered wrote: »

if he has, then he should lead the summer tour, there is no point in having the wrong dog barking, it should be used as a get to know you, while telling them the game he wants them to play.

This has already been covered elsewhere. No way anyone but Kiss should take the summer tour.

Tox56

irishbucsfan wrote: »

This has already been covered elsewhere. No way anyone but Kiss should take the summer tour.

Now that he's been given it yes, but it was silly to give it to him in the first place

irishbucsfan

Tox56 wrote: »

Now that he's been given it yes, but it was silly to give it to him in the first place

Even if he hadn't it'd be a bad idea to give it to Schmidt. Wouldn't be fair at all. Someone else has to do it. And I think Kiss is the best option available.

thebaz

great choice - big loss to leinster but sure Dawson will choose someone equally good - what happened to all the , he's returning to NZ definitly , I'm certainly not surprised , he seams to like Ireland , and if the right offer was made . More excited now by Irish rugby since the heady days of early BOD ;-)

.ak

thebaz wrote: »

great choice - big loss to leinster but sure Dawson will choose someone equally good - what happened to all the , he's returning to NZ definitly , I'm certainly not surprised , he seams to like Ireland , and if the right offer was made . More excited now by Irish rugby since the heady days of early BOD ;-)

He said on the Late Late he would be returning to NZ unless he got the Irish job to spend more time with family etc. etc., but he said he'd stay if the Ireland job was offered to him because he could spend more time with them here as the Irish job isn't 6 days a week etc.

whatawaster

If he is appointed by Wednesday he should 100% take the summer tout. Its an invaluable chance to see some of the fringe players.

Fairness shouldn't come in to it, I'd feel for Kiss but he was just a caretaker at the end of the day

Glass Prison 1214

.ak wrote: »

He said on the Late Late he would be returning to NZ unless he got the Irish job to spend more time with family etc. etc., but he said he'd stay if the Ireland job was offered to him because he could spend more time with them here as the Irish job isn't 6 days a week etc.

I interpreted it differently to that, I thought he was saying that the Irish job had appeal because it would allow him to spend more time with his son whos unwell. Didn't think that had anything to do with his family back in New Zealand. Maybe I'm wrong though.

irishbucsfan

whatawaster wrote: »

If he is appointed by Wednesday he should 100% take the summer tout. Its an invaluable chance to see some of the fringe players.

Fairness shouldn't come in to it, I'd feel for Kiss but he was just a caretaker at the end of the day

It has absolutely nothing to do with fairness. Schmidt should not take the summer tour.

He will have just worked nearly 11 moths straight and will be making a massive change in his life. He has a lot of stuff to manage at home. He will be leaving his job since 2010 at short notice and will no doubt be asked to help find his successor. Or at least to prepare some form of handover to whoever the successor is (I'm sure the IRFU will let him spend some extra time with Leinster in preseason to help with the handover).

Meanwhile that tour is already underway in that Kiss and Smal are already preparing for it. It is a lot of work that doesn't just start when they arrive in the States. So that workload is a workload that would have to be put on Schmidt as well. All while he is trying to win the Pro 12 and Amlin.

So no, he should not 100% take the summer tour.

CIARAN_BOYLE

irishbucsfan wrote: »

So no, he should not 100% take the summer tour.

Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it

CatFromHue

Declan Kidney didn't take the 2008 Summer tour to Nz and Oz which was a smart move as he was so busy with Munster. Don't see why it should be any different for Schmidt.

irishbucsfan

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it

Definitely. And if he wants to go over and attend games or anything the IRFU should cover that for him. But I'd like to think they'd put no pressure on him to do anything like that and just gave him time to get himself sorted, which I'm sure they will.

I'd say Kiss will communicate with him anyway. There's rumours he might stay on under Schmidt as defense coach.

Dave_The_Sheep

irishbucsfan wrote: »

There's rumours he might stay on under Schmidt as defense coach.

That's not something I'd have a problem with.

His effectiveness as a coach went downhill after he took on more than the defensive coach role. In that job though, he's top notch.

locum-motion

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Agreed. That said, he should have input into the tour, even if he doesn't run it

FYP. (I think.)
Please, if you want readers to understand what you mean, punctuate it!

wittycynic

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Agreed that said he should have input into the tour even if he doesn't run it

I'd be concerned this would result in kiss's authority being undermined for the tour.

totallegend

wittycynic wrote: »

I'd be concerned this would result in kiss's authority being undermined for the tour.

Is that sarcasm? If not... Who cares? What does it matter how much authority Kiss has?

keith16

locum-motion wrote: »

FYP. (I think.)
Please, if you want readers to understand what you mean, punctuate it!

Maybe you should learn how to use full sentences and how to use parentheses before you start lecturing others on their use of grammar?

Back on topic, I think this will be a great appointment for Irish rugby.

.ak

Enough of the grammar nazis...

Neil3030

I'm still refusing to get my hopes up about this until I see it confirmed.

Boy how sweet it would be...

Suasdaguna1

Worst kept secret ever.....it was a done deal from day one the minute Joe acknowledged his interest/intent re the managers position.

I too think he's the right man.....bravo

vienne86

When Joe gets named Irish coach, I'm signing up to Ireland supporters clup. Had no interest in it up until now.

bilston

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'm still refusing to get my hopes up about this until I see it confirmed.

Boy how sweet it would be...

I think barring a massive massive u-turn from one side or the other I think you can get your hopes up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/

The BBC wouldn't have it as one of their lead sports stories if it wasn't going to happen.

Tox56

bilston wrote: »

I think barring a massive massive u-turn from one side or the other I think you can get your hopes up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/

The BBC wouldn't have it as one of their lead sports stories if it wasn't going to happen.

To the end of the 2016 season? Didn't see that one coming

.ak

Well, I suppose it kinda makes sense. Technically if it was 2015 his contract would be up before the RWC, and could be in line for another 2 year extension like Kidney was. This would show the IRFU have learned from their mistakes tbh.

its_phil

Tox56 wrote: »

To the end of the 2016 season? Didn't see that one coming

Yeah very surprised about that. Guess bringing up his kids in NZ wasn't as big a factor as some us thought. Just wanted more time to concentrate on his kid whether it was in Ireland or NZ and now he can even split some of his time between the two just like Gatland. Albeit if he does a Trapatoni and orders a brand new DVD player.....

P_1

.ak wrote: »

Well, I suppose it kinda makes sense. Technically if it was 2015 his contract would be up before the RWC, and could be in line for another 2 year extension like Kidney was. This would show the IRFU have learned from their mistakes tbh.

Is that a pig I see flying past the blue moon? :eek:

rrpc

P_1 wrote: »

Is that a pig I see flying past the blue moon? :eek:

It's actually a squadron of pigs in perfect V formation