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The Grapevine (OFF TOPIC CHAT) Part II

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  • #302
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I imagine it is filtered with an agent that is made from fish bone Islinglass.
    It wouldn't actually contain traces of the agent.
    Alot of beers and wines are made this way.
    As alot of fruit and vegetables are fertilized with blood and bone meal also.
    You have to draw your line somewhere. I chose not to worry about it.
    It seems a shame to discriminate again a pint, when your letting a tomato off scot free. ;)

    As far as I'm aware it's filtered with isinglass. I tried to check again there but barnivore is down. I didn't realise that some veg was fertilised that way. I agree you have to draw the line somewhere but I feel avoiding certain alcoholic drinks isn't too much of a sacrifice for me whereas trying to avoid bone meal fertilised veg would probably be a lot more difficult and/or result in me eating feck all. :p I do miss Guiness though. :(


  • #303
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    anyone here use any b12 supplements?
    Thinking I might need some.


  • #304
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    No, as I still eat eggs and dairy. Good idea if you don't. Vegans definitely should be, don't take Spirulina, that's more of a pseudo-B12.


  • #305
    [Deleted User]
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    Zombienosh wrote: »
    anyone here use any b12 supplements?
    Thinking I might need some.

    Are you not feeling well?


  • #306
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    There was ahuge thread about vegetarianism on AH, I think Zombienosh must have been reading :D


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  • #307
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    haha, no just thinking the only sources I get really are from a multi vitamin and the odd egg I've started to eat, I don't really eat dairy and I train in the gym a lot so I might need more b12 than the average joe? My mind has been foggy of late.
    Since it is water soluble I guess there's no harm in trying to get more.
    Just wanted to see if anyone recommends anything.


  • #308
    sav1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭sav1980


    It's not just vegans that need to supplement with B12, I've read a lot of the population whether meateater/vegetarian/vegan are b12 deficient. Best way to supplement is the liquid drops - solgar do a high strength one. Think it costs about 13 euro for about a 1 month's supply.


  • #309
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    cool, yeah solgar tend to be the best to go with for vegan/veggie supplements


  • #310
    Whispered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    I'm not sure if there is a better thread for this, but I had to mention the amazing meal I had last night. We were in Ahernes restaurant in Youghal, and when booking I mentioned that we're happy with the set menu, so long as there is a vegetarian option.

    Well, I have never been made feel more welcome. I was given 4 choices and went for a tower of roasted veggies with a mixed salsa, fresh pesto and a tomato sauce. It was fab, but not only that, the chef came out himself to see if it was ok & went on to tell me how delighted he was with the challenge.

    They do a taster menu in the place, which is a seafood restaurant, and I was told that if I was to come back I should book the taster menu and he'd create a vegetarian one for me! Multiple courses of veggie delight! We're definitely going to go back and if you're looking for a special place to have a dinner/ weekend for a veggie & non veggie couple (like my husband and I) it was perfect.


  • #311
    [Deleted User]
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    Sounds fantastic!


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  • #312
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    haha, no just thinking the only sources I get really are from a multi vitamin and the odd egg I've started to eat, I don't really eat dairy and I train in the gym a lot so I might need more b12 than the average joe? My mind has been foggy of late.
    Since it is water soluble I guess there's no harm in trying to get more.
    Just wanted to see if anyone recommends anything.
    I'm not really a fan of multi vitamins because they give you loads of stuff you don't need/might get too much of. If there is something in particular you want like b12 I'd take a b12 supplement, not an everything supplement.

    Don't forget that you probably eat food fortified with b12 too such as soya milk. You can sprinkle things like nutritional yeast on your food also.
    sav1980 wrote: »
    It's not just vegans that need to supplement with B12, I've read a lot of the population whether meateater/vegetarian/vegan are b12 deficient. Best way to supplement is the liquid drops - solgar do a high strength one. Think it costs about 13 euro for about a 1 month's supply.
    If food weren't fortified everybody would be deficient in a lot of things, peoples diets are horrendous. You need a high strength one all right because a lot of b12 isn't absorbed.
    Whispered wrote: »
    I'm not sure if there is a better thread for this, but I had to mention the amazing meal I had last night. We were in Ahernes restaurant in Youghal, and when booking I mentioned that we're happy with the set menu, so long as there is a vegetarian option.

    Well, I have never been made feel more welcome. I was given 4 choices and went for a tower of roasted veggies with a mixed salsa, fresh pesto and a tomato sauce. It was fab, but not only that, the chef came out himself to see if it was ok & went on to tell me how delighted he was with the challenge.

    They do a taster menu in the place, which is a seafood restaurant, and I was told that if I was to come back I should book the taster menu and he'd create a vegetarian one for me! Multiple courses of veggie delight! We're definitely going to go back and if you're looking for a special place to have a dinner/ weekend for a veggie & non veggie couple (like my husband and I) it was perfect.
    Sounds amazing tbh, I can't understand why more chefs aren't like that. Seems they just make the same aul crap, would it not be so boring for them. Not in dublin damn.


  • #313
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    I'm not really a fan of multi vitamins because they give you loads of stuff you don't need/might get too much of. If there is something in particular you want like b12 I'd take a b12 supplement, not an everything supplement.

    Don't forget that you probably eat food fortified with b12 too such as soya milk. You can sprinkle things like nutritional yeast on your food also.
    .

    I take a multi mostly because the heavy training I do, After long days work/college and then gymming it, I try to make sure I have all my bases covered.
    I don't use soya milk or really eat fortified foods. I do use a bit of kara coconut milk and it has b12 but very small amounts.
    I went a bought some solgar b12 nuggets that dissolve on the tongue, I'm gonna try them for the month and see if I notice any difference.


  • #314
    Whispered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    I take a multi mostly because the heavy training I do, After long days work/college and then gymming it, I try to make sure I have all my bases covered.
    I don't use soya milk or really eat fortified foods. I do use a bit of kara coconut milk and it has b12 but very small amounts.
    I went a bought some solgar b12 nuggets that dissolve on the tongue, I'm gonna try them for the month and see if I notice any difference.

    Just so you're aware, if your b12 gets very low you turn into a lunatic. I was crying over nothing, paranoid, angry over silly little things and had an overwhelming feeling of frustration all the time. I was so tired, but couldn't sleep and felt like I was wading through thick air all the time.

    I gave up my night job and I got B12 injections and the difference was amazing. I found out that I can't absorb B12 so it's not necessarily dietry, it has to be injected. I recommend now to anybody who will listen to have their levels checked next time they're in a doctor. It made such a difference to me.
    Sounds amazing tbh, I can't understand why more chefs aren't like that. Seems they just make the same aul crap, would it not be so boring for them. Not in dublin damn.

    Well he certainly put the whole idea of a stressed anrgy chef back in its place! Every plate of food that came out was fab. Then this friendly fella wanders out to check how we're getting on, it's nice to have food made by someone who tells you how much he enjoyed preparing it.


  • #315
    --LOS--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    wow that's really refreshing to hear Whispered, not sure I'll be in Youghal any time soon though :( Just shows you as well you should always ask anyway, you might get a good response like you did.


  • #316
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    It is good to hear and how rare, sadly most of the time it's the other way round.


  • #317
    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Not sure its worthy of a new thread so will post here.

    Competition to win hamper of Dee's wholefoods stuff here:

    http://www.irishfarmersmonthly.com/component/option,com_chronoforms/Itemid,65/view,form/


  • #318
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Anyone have any good vegetarian hangover food recommendations?


  • #319
    Whispered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Killer_banana wrote: »
    Anyone have any good vegetarian hangover food recommendations?

    Plain omlette, on white bread with a hash brown and loads of ketchup, or else a roll with loads of salad and a packet of crisps. Either washed down by a bottle of lucozade.


  • #320
    Ms. Koi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ms. Koi


    Hi there lovely people! Haven't been on in a long time! How are ye all?


  • #321
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Awesome, hows you?


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  • #322
    Ms. Koi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ms. Koi


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    Awesome, hows you?


    I'm not great but getting there! Working on a tough assignment!


  • #323
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    I do wish Nestlé would label their products as suitable for vegetarians (or not). I know there's a list on the website but it's not much use if you're in the supermarket or someone's house. Especially since some of the products seem to contain vegetarian whey but others don't so just reading the ingredients doesn't always help.


  • #324
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    got some of the veggie chicken looking thingys in the Asian market last night, guna give them a try.
    I was afraid of the veggie mutton,ribs and fish since I never really ate any of the actual meats.


  • #325
    --LOS--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    Kellief!! How's it going, how's college, haven't seen you about here in ages!


    Got some of those chicken things to try yesterday too, there were no satay skewers there :(

    Just noticed that MoN you're a mod now?!


  • #326
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Just seen on Lurves facebook that theyre planning to stay open til 10 now serving coffees, teas, smoothies, veggie juices, etc. As an alternative to pub life.

    Sounds good.


  • #327
    Ms. Koi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ms. Koi


    Hey!! College is going well, I'm doing my masters now! It's an MSc in Climate Change, in Maynooth!
    I'm alright!


  • #328
    entropi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    Kellief!! How's it going, how's college, haven't seen you about here in ages!


    Got some of those chicken things to try yesterday too, there were no satay skewers there :(

    Just noticed that MoN you're a mod now?!
    I am, I like it :)

    How's you? I should drop up some weekend soon!

    And how's everyone else?


  • #329
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Picked up Liquid aminos today.
    http://bragg.com/products/la.html
    Found a small spray bottle in nourish for a fiver, I'm using it on fake chicken/tofu/beans. like a soy sauce. It tastes awesome.
    Thought people here might be into it for making a more complete protein profile for meals.


  • #330
    Ms. Koi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ms. Koi


    Master of Nothing wrote: »
    I am, I like it :)

    How's you? I should drop up some weekend soon!

    And how's everyone else?

    So busy!
    I desperately need a holiday!


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  • #331
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    kellief wrote: »
    So busy!
    I desperately need a holiday!

    hah, don't we all.


  • #332
    Ms. Koi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ms. Koi


    it is much needed!


  • #333
    GoldCobra
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭GoldCobra


    Comments like this really annoy me
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83528479&postcount=5


  • #334
    [Deleted User]
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    Hi all! How is everyone today? :)

    I wish the rain would flup off. I want to go for a walk somewhere nice!
    Zombienosh wrote: »
    Picked up Liquid aminos today.
    http://bragg.com/products/la.html
    Found a small spray bottle in nourish for a fiver, I'm using it on fake chicken/tofu/beans. like a soy sauce. It tastes awesome.
    Thought people here might be into it for making a more complete protein profile for meals.

    Am I reading this right. 310 mgs of protein per serving?
    Seems a bit pointless. :/ Or is there something special about the type of protein it is?

    GoldCobra wrote: »
    Comments like this really annoy me
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83528479&postcount=5

    It never ceases to amaze me, how upset other people can be over other peoples food choices.
    The tolerated abuse you see from a small minority of people in threads on other forums is ridiculous.
    Some people really need to get over themselves.


  • #335
    GoldCobra
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭GoldCobra


    I think it's more the amino acid profile, it has 16 in it, so it could help make a meal more balanced. instead of having to combine sources to make up a complete profile.


  • #336
    entropi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    But, all of those amino acids can be made up with a combo of two foods I reckon, eggs being one (if not averse to eating them ofc) and quinoa possibly being a second. 310mgs? that's not even a third of a gram!! Everybody should be eating at least their own weight in kgs of protein per day, a bit more for those who are weight training. This is to maintain your current muscle mass, not even for people trying to increase their mass through training.


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  • #337
    Tar.Aldarion
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    I think you mean grams not kg :p


  • #338
    GoldCobra
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭GoldCobra


    Quinoa is a complete protein. Hence why people call it a "superfood"


  • #339
    GoldCobra
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭GoldCobra


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    I think you mean grams not kg :p

    Aye, a gram of protein per pound of bw, but saying that I've seen sites and books varying that amount alot.
    Some people go up to 2 or 3 grams which i think is mental. and some people have said half a gram per pound. I think it varies greatly on the individual. It should definitely be the high% of calorie intake either way.
    I tend to aim for a gram per pound but don't worry if I'm a bit short on it.


  • #340
    entropi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    I think you mean grams not kg :p
    Typing it didn't seem right :p Meant that their weight in kg would be the amount of grams of protein the would consume.

    Sure, getting enough protein in a day to equal your bodyweight seems a bit too much tbh, and most stuff I've seen/heard on the subject looks to the g/kg bodyweight, rather than g/lb. You'd nearly be eating all day to get that (especially for veggies/vegans with a higher bodymass), and it would cost a fair bit too. As an aside, the human body can only convert 30g of protein per hour (a physiological limitation), so having more than that is not going to improve anything.


  • #341
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    I emailed l'oreal asking about one product and got the most longwinded and off the point email ever. It starts normally enough telling me what animal products are used in their products and how to identify them in the ingredients (because providing me a list or just providing a simple yes or no about the one product I asked about is too much work) and then they went on to say it's up to the individual to decide what they regard as against their vegetarian/vegan lifestyle like if you wear leather it's from animals or some spices are made from insects. They then talk about how they've stopped testing on animals...except they still do just not much....but they're working on ending all animal testing, honest. It wasn't a bad email as such they answered all my questions more or less rather than trying to sidestep them like some companies but it was just written so strangely. The bit about leather and the like came off pretty self-righteous. I think it was just the person who wrote it trying to avoid outright saying 'this product is not vegan' by saying it was my choice whether to label it vegan or not. I actually stated in my email what I meant by vegan but anyway...


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  • #342
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    Master of Nothing wrote: »
    As an aside, the human body can only convert 30g of protein per hour (a physiological limitation), so having more than that is not going to improve anything.

    That is a bit of an old wives tale. When you eat a protein heavy meal, Your body releases a hormone, that slows down digestion. So that eventually you absorb everything.

    I see your lifting heavy things! Do you like it? :)

    Killer_banana wrote: »
    I emailed l'oreal asking about one product and got the most longwinded and off the point email ever. It starts normally enough telling me what animal products are used in their products and how to identify them in the ingredients

    Would you mind posting that info? It would handy to know.
    I never know what to look for when it comes to toiletries and cosmetics.


  • #343
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    That is a bit of an old wives tale. When you eat a protein heavy meal, Your body releases a hormone, that slows down digestion. So that eventually you absorb everything.

    :O The older I get the mroe things I find out I was taught in school are outright wrong.

    Moonbaby wrote: »
    Would you mind posting that info? It would handy to know.
    I never know what to look for when it comes to toiletries and cosmetics.

    This is what the email says
    Some of our products may contain derivatives of sheep’s wool (LANOLIN - though no animal is sacrificed to obtain this) and some of our products also contain beeswax, honey or silk amino acids, fish products (collagen and oil) and fowl products (eggs and feather keratin). These can all be identified in the ingredients lists on each product. Some of our lipsticks however may contain carmine, which gives it it’s red colour from carminic acid which is derived from insects.

    I'm guessing since she says they're in ingredient lists they're listed under the names given. I've never seen eggs or feather keratin listed on a product but I was asking specifically about hair dye and I haven't used a traditional box dye since I started using vegan products so those ingredients might be used in them.

    Ingredient lists can be confusing as hell though when it comes to cosmetics since, usually, I haven't the faintest idea what the vast majority of stuff listed is. I tend to buy stuff I can find on vegan lists or email companies if I can't find a vegan list. I don't own many cosmetics but the stuff I do use is mainly from Lush, ELF (all products are vegan except some brushes), Barry M (any vegan products have a V beside the ingredient list on their website) and Gosh (not completely vegan but they do have a good few vegan products. I found a list on a blog recently if you'd like me to send you it).


  • #344
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Anyone know if toffifee is vegetarian? I was given a box of it last night and it's calling to me. :P I emailed them but god knows when they will get back to me.


  • #345
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Can't imagine any mad ingredients in it, I'd say enjoy em.


  • #346
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    Can't imagine any mad ingredients in it, I'd say enjoy em.

    There's whey so could go either way. I wish that they listed what type of cheese production the whey came from. I've seen it labelled as milk whey once but other than that it always just says whey. It's in so many things as well...


  • #347
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I don't mind whey. If it doesn't explicitly list an ingredient as animal sourced or an ingredient I know is animal sourced I don't stress about it.


  • #348
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    I prefer to avoid it if I can. Anyway got a reply to my email. They're vegetarian. :D Currently stuffing my face.


  • #349
    entropi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    That is a bit of an old wives tale. When you eat a protein heavy meal, Your body releases a hormone, that slows down digestion. So that eventually you absorb everything.

    I see your lifting heavy things! Do you like it? :)
    I sort of mis-quoted something from earlier lectures, lol. Absorption doesn't have an actual limit, since nobody knows, but the useage/synthesis of that protein is capped at 20g/hr.

    I'm lifting heavy things now, yes! It's pretty fun so far :) And how are you? It's been quite a while since we've met/talked!


  • #350
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    http://www.cok.net/blog/2013/03/google-confirms-veganism-on-rise/

    although it's more like googling veganism is on the rise, but that of course implies the former.


  • #351
    Killer_banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Was wandering around my local supervalu looking for peanut butter today and happened across their healthfood section. I was pleasntly surprised to see how well stocked it was with non-dairy milks and a few other vegan bits. I would have expected that from the supervalus in town but I live in a fairly small village so did not think they would have much in. Made decide once my easter egg is gone the vegan transition starts. Starting to get excited now...

    Never did find any peanut butter though.


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