DIY e-liquid advice needed

alec76 · 31-03-2012 9:02pm

I've been going grand with 70vg/30pg with the arry4 tank and boge cartos so I think I'll be ok with the 50/50 ratio as that will be slightly thinner than the current setup, but will allow for better flavour if I have done my homework right.

er... A u sure it is not 70pg/30vg ?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-03-2012 9:03pm

well he said 5050 would be thinner, so I guess he did mean 70vg

alec76 · 31-03-2012 9:35pm

ok, i just thought that normally it is other way around ( dekang, halo etc)

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-03-2012 9:45pm

it is, but there are other juice vendors that do diff mixes of pg/vg so I guess he's vaping mainly their stuff?
*shrug*

Hunter Mahan · 31-03-2012 9:48pm

Anyone care to describe Gold Ducat? I had the opportunity to try it recently and messed it up, so I never did, but I find it intriguing?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-03-2012 9:51pm

tobacco with a hint of something else
i say honey
tommy2bad says raisins
mrplop says carrot cake

either way it's nice

newmark · 31-03-2012 10:26pm

alec76 wrote: »

er... A u sure it is not 70pg/30vg ?

Yep I've been using the premium liquid from e-cigshop.eu it a 70vg30pg http://e-cigshop.eu/e-Liquid-for-electronic-cigarettes/premium-e-liquid

I was worried about using it with the tank due to it being thicker liquid but have had no issues and I'm getting plooms of vapour with it so happy out.
I suspected a bit of an allergic reaction to the Pg-liquid so changed to this to try it out and have been vaping it for the last few days. Its not bad either the U.S red mix is lovely stuff . Thats why I'm trying the US red mix from Inawera if its anything like that one it will be my all day vape.

newmark · 31-03-2012 10:27pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=26

the pipettes from here are great

Great stuff I'll get them

Esel · 01-04-2012 1:03am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

just tried the 10% mix I did, jesus christ
this kinda hurts
definitely too strong

--edit
i wanted to test out my other diy's but now everything bloody tastes of eucalyptus

I mentioned that a while ago....

derra · 02-04-2012 3:28pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=26

These are doing free delivery through DHL, bought a battery on Friday the 23rd March and it's gone from Manchester -London-Frankfurt and still waiting on it.
This will be same for all their deliveries i was told in a email, Frankfurt being the sorting office.

Quicker getting the eGo mod from Heavens Gifts in China :rolleyes:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 02-04-2012 3:37pm

all mine went through germany too, i was a bit freaked out with the first order but they tended to arrive quickly. under a week or just over.

newmark · 05-04-2012 6:04pm

Does anyone have a link for somewhere to find out what ratio of flavouring to use with different Inawera flavours? I'm feeling a bit lazy to read back through the whole thread to try find out.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 05-04-2012 6:05pm

http://www.inaweraflavours.com/en/16-tabacco-e-flavours

this site lists reccomendations for the inawera flavours, but I think they're all bull****

I put 10% for the tobaccos anyway. might be a good idea to do two mixes of a couple of juices at 5% and 10% and see which you prefer after steeping for a week or two

newmark · 05-04-2012 6:10pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://www.inaweraflavours.com/en/16-tabacco-e-flavours

this site lists reccomendations for the inawera flavours, but I think they're all bull****

I put 10% for the tobaccos anyway. might be a good idea to do two mixes of a couple of juices at 5% and 10% and see which you prefer after steeping for a week or two

What ratio do you use for the gold ducat? Have you ever mixed the malboro us red mix and if yes what ratio have you done for that one?
Ill have a look at that link anyway as well thanks.:)

Green Hornet · 05-04-2012 6:11pm

derra wrote: »

Quicker getting the eGo mod from Heavens Gifts in China :rolleyes:

Is that the eGo booster? I was thinking of getting one of those but they don't appear to be available in Ire or UK. Looks like they add a bit too much length wise to the battery too? I'm using eGo 1100 and theyre big enoug as they are.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 05-04-2012 6:13pm

for 26ml of gold ducat I do

42 drops gold ducat
10 drops morning rain
that comes to 10% flavouring altogether

i liked gold ducat on its own, but I found morning rain added a bit of a kick to it

red mix is the same, 10%.. basically 2 drops per ml but i dont use any morning rain with it
its a lovely juice, although it smells disgracefully strong when exhaled. youll want to keep a window open

newmark · 05-04-2012 6:13pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://www.inaweraflavours.com/en/16-tabacco-e-flavours

this site lists reccomendations for the inawera flavours, but I think they're all bull****

I put 10% for the tobaccos anyway. might be a good idea to do two mixes of a couple of juices at 5% and 10% and see which you prefer after steeping for a week or two

I ordered my stuff from www.inawera.com. Are they the same company as www.inaweraflavours.com or are they different?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 05-04-2012 6:15pm

yeah same company, not sure why they have two sites
i think everyone here orders from inawera.com maybe flavours is for the US ?

newmark · 05-04-2012 6:16pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

for 26ml of gold ducat I do

42 drops gold ducat
10 drops morning rain
that comes to 10% flavouring altogether

i liked gold ducat on its own, but I found morning rain added a bit of a kick to it

red mix is the same, 10%.. basically 2 drops per ml but i dont use any morning rain with it
its a lovely juice, although it smells disgracefully strong when exhaled. youll want to keep a window open

Going on that so I'll probably start off at about 5% leave it for a week and see what it tastes like then I can always add another bit after that.

newmark · 05-04-2012 6:19pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yeah same company, not sure why they have two sites
i think everyone here orders from inawera.com maybe flavours is for the US ?

O right well the inaweraflavours sight you linked seems to be a bit easier to get around than the other one so an extra one to have a browse through later.

tommy2bad · 05-04-2012 6:37pm

newmark wrote: »

O right well the inaweraflavours sight you linked seems to be a bit easier to get around than the other one so an extra one to have a browse through later.

Thats the one I order from and delivery time was 10 days, first time and 18 days second time due to their being out of one flavor which they posted separately a week later. It's a small bit more expensive but only about a euro more on 30 euros worth. Take credit cards directly through moneybrokers so no need for paypal.
I think the Inawera.com sell to tobacco growers and producers, I see they have flavors for tobacco on the site.

Esel · 06-04-2012 3:10am

tommy2bad wrote: »

I think the Inawera.com sell to tobacco growers and producers.....

???

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 8:48am

look at their site, they have flavourings for tobacco leaves as well as eliquid

derra · 06-04-2012 11:30am

Green Hornet wrote: »

Is that the eGo booster? I was thinking of getting one of those but they don't appear to be available in Ire or UK. Looks like they add a bit too much length wise to the battery too? I'm using eGo 1100 and theyre big enoug as they are.

No it's not the eGo booster.
There are better options than that out there at the moment though.

One i got is supposed to be a Joyetech product but there is nothing on their site about it.
Takes a 18650 battery, has the usual 5 click on/off and regulated at 3.3v.
Got it from Heavens Gifts for €14 delivered.

Green Hornet · 06-04-2012 11:47am

I see Bestecig.ie have a variable voltage eGo battery for 17.99 actually. 3.2, 3.7 and 4.2V I think. I might take a punt on that? Not a bad price and it should give me some experience of the effects of different voltage and if the worst comes to the worst, it'll still be a spare battery!

eGo Battery : Varivolt & power indicator meter 900mAh Manual

Edit: How the hell do you log into that site? Cant find a log in box anywhere?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 11:58am

i had one of them
iirc it's not regulated, so after a while vaping at 4.2v you wont be getting 4.2v as the battery drains
still a decent idea of VV if you're looking to get an ego battery anyway
it's qite a bit longer than a normal 900mah too, it's aroiund the size of the 1000/1100mah batteries.

Green Hornet · 06-04-2012 12:03pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i had one of them
iirc it's not regulated, so after a while vaping at 4.2v you wont be getting 4.2v as the battery drains
still a decent idea of VV if you're looking to get an ego battery anyway
it's qite a bit longer than a normal 900mah too, it's aroiund the size of the 1000/1100mah batteries.

Might chance one anyway. If I can ever figure out how to log onto the damn site that is.........

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 12:08pm

i dont think you have to log in

Green Hornet · 06-04-2012 12:11pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i dont think you have to log in

Oh right, didn't know that!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 12:13pm

yeah just add the product to your basket and the checkout box will pop down

newmark · 06-04-2012 12:16pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yeah just add the product to your basket and the checkout box will pop down

Can see how easy that is to happen, were so used to logging in and making accounts on these vendor sites. I would have done the same thing myself.

newmark · 06-04-2012 2:06pm

Well I made my first DIY e-liquid this morning and found it pretty straightforward. I used a 5ml syringe to measure out the VG and PG and I used a 1ml syringe to measure out the flavour concentrate. I was thinking the syringes would be more accurate than the drop method. I used this calculator and found it very straightforward to use. http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/ELiquidCalc

I did 50PG/50VG ratio of 18mg strength and made 50ml of USA red mix and 20ml of Gold Ducat.

They both smell fairly good. I'm going to leave them steep until at least tomorrow before trying, I don't think I can resist waiting a week.

Am I correct in thinking I just leave them in a press with the caps off the bottles for 24 hours and then put back on the caps and leave them for about a week or two?

stevenmu · 06-04-2012 2:09pm

I'm sure you know already, but make sure to give them a good shake too.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 2:12pm

yeah, i dont actually know if leaving the cap off is strictly neccesary. I didnt bother doing it with my last batch
but leaving them somewhere out of the way and out of sunlight for a week or two is a good idea

i have some gold ducat here that I made on 15/3 and 22/3 and the 15/3 batch is quite a bit darker than the 22/3 batch so time definitely makes a difference.

also good christ, 50ml.. i hope you end up loving it

]--edit

oh and steeping is just to get "optimal" flavour, if you want to bung some into a carto or a tank after a couple of days to try.. work away, a few seconds outside of the darkened storage area won't hurt it

newmark · 06-04-2012 2:34pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I'm sure you know already, but make sure to give them a good shake too.

Yes I shook the shi@e out of em

newmark · 06-04-2012 2:35pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yeah, i dont actually know if leaving the cap off is strictly neccesary. I didnt bother doing it with my last batch
but leaving them somewhere out of the way and out of sunlight for a week or two is a good idea

i have some gold ducat here that I made on 15/3 and 22/3 and the 15/3 batch is quite a bit darker than the 22/3 batch so time definitely makes a difference.

also good christ, 50ml.. i hope you end up loving it

]--edit

oh and steeping is just to get "optimal" flavour, if you want to bung some into a carto or a tank after a couple of days to try.. work away, a few seconds outside of the darkened storage area won't hurt it

I made up 50ml so I can give some to some family neighbours and friend that I introduced to vaping so hopefully it will be ok

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-04-2012 2:42pm

you have more faith in your beginners diy skills than I did mine

newmark · 06-04-2012 2:57pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you have more faith in your beginners diy skills than I did mine

I'm hoping that all the bits and pieces of good advice I've picked up from people like yourself will stand to my e-liquid! We shall see;)

I found this tutorial the other day browsing around a guy by the name of rocketman there's some good tips in there for anyone thinking of mixing e-liquid. http://www.vapeatron.com/rockets-diy-e-juice-mixing-tutorial-5932/

stevenmu · 06-04-2012 3:21pm

Some good articles here too with some handy tips

http://stvapors.com/wordpress/articles/blog-diy/

alec76 · 07-04-2012 7:13pm

I used this calculator and found it very straightforward to use. http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/ELiquidCalc

i dunno , it is alright, i guess, until u decided to change pg/vg ratio ......
here is the good one

http://www.ejuice.breaktru.com/

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 08-04-2012 9:56pm

im really learning to love this inawera eucalyptus @ 10%

filled a carto up with it and vaping away. it's got a serious nose clearing kick to it but I could see myself using this as an all day vape.

newmark · 16-04-2012 8:11pm

I was messing around there and got a bit carried away, I had bits of eliquids left in bottles so I decided to mix a few together to see what I ended up with.

So I mixed strawberry, banana, redbull, bubblegum, vanilla, chocolate/mint, menthol and a bit of cowboy deluxe together.
What did I end up with? A disaster I hear you say! Nope I just made the best f****n eliquid ever.
I threw it in a tank with a 3ohm boge and is so nice I spent the last 15 or so minutes chain vaping it at 4.8 volts, I really must calm down on vaping for a while now as I've vaped over 10ml already today. :-))

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-04-2012 8:16pm

good luck trying to recreate it :P

eeloe · 18-04-2012 7:29pm

Okay, i'm thinkin in the next week or two i'm gonna have to put in an order with inawera to try and mix some of my own liquid....
so far in the cart i have

PG 36mg 100ml
PG 0mg 100ml
VG 0mg 100ml

Would i be right in thinking the following?
5ml of PG 36mg
+
2ml of PG 0mg
+
2 ml of VG 0mg
+
1 ml of flavor will give me

10ml of 18mg juice? or have i got it all completely wrong?

newmark · 18-04-2012 7:43pm

I'm finding with the inawera stuff that 4% concentrate is plenty, they recommend 3% for a lot of flavours.

For 10ml of juice you would only need 0.4ml of concentrate.
You could use 5ml of PG36mg, 2ml of 0mg pg and 2.6ml of 0mg vg and then you should end up with a wee bit less than 18mg liquid.
If you find there's not enough flavour you can then just add in 1 drop more of concentrate at a time. Thats the way I'm doing it except I do 50/50 pg/vg ratio.

I use a 1ml syringe to measure out the concentrate and 5ml syringe for measuring the pg and vg, I didn't find the pipettes accurate enough.

You can also use the eliquid calculator as well to get a more accurate pg/vg ratio.

eeloe wrote: »

Okay, i'm thinkin in the next week or two i'm gonna have to put in an order with inawera to try and mix some of my own liquid....
so far in the cart i have

PG 36mg 100ml
PG 0mg 100ml
VG 0mg 100ml

Would i be right in thinking the following?
5ml of PG 36mg
+
2ml of PG 0mg
+
2 ml of VG 0mg
+
1 ml of flavor will give me

10ml of 18mg juice? or have i got it all completely wrong?

eeloe · 18-04-2012 7:50pm

ah i see, i thought the flavor would be measured in mls!

newmark · 18-04-2012 8:02pm

eeloe wrote: »

ah i see, i thought the flavor would be measured in mls!

It is in mls but .4 of a ml is 4% of 10ml. If you put in the full 1ml it would be 10% concentrate which may be too strong especially for some of them flavours. Its better to put in too little because you can always add a bit more if you find its not strong enough after steeping. I got an orange concentrate yesterday and I could smell it before I even opened the box.

I find the syringes give a more accurate percentage, a lot of people have recipes for amount of drops, but being just a beginner myself I felt more comfortable seeing exact measurements when measuring out.

eeloe · 18-04-2012 8:09pm

Ah yes i see i see!

right, gonna put an order in on monday, only going to get 300ml of base fluids, VG, PG, and PG with Nic.

that should do me a long while, if i like the flavors that is!

newmark · 18-04-2012 9:43pm

eeloe wrote: »

Ah yes i see i see!

right, gonna put an order in on monday, only going to get 300ml of base fluids, VG, PG, and PG with Nic.

that should do me a long while, if i like the flavors that is!

In the meantime while your waiting to start have a good look read through the information on the links above as well as there are lots of good tips to be got there.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 18-04-2012 11:30pm

they have a base that's 50:50 pg/vg if you dont want to fiddle about with 3 different bottles of base

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