Nokia Lumia 800

kaizersoze · 20-03-2012 2:24am

AntiVirus wrote: »

Could you explain how you do this on the iPhone?

No bother.
After adding an email account you can go into the account settings and add more SMTP servers that the account can use. The servers from other mail accounts on the phone are also listed there and can also be used by each account. Clear as mud?:)
Here's a pic......

AntiVirus · 20-03-2012 9:45am

Ah I see what you mean now. I've had a look around the settings and internet and can't see any way to do that? I don't think its possible unless some one else knows how??

Ronan H · 20-03-2012 11:18am

dmclean1842 wrote: »

Vodafone update for Ireland now out.

Will update via Zune now

Excellent, thanks for that! Any reports on whether it addresses the issue of the phone not switching on or charging after a full discharge? It wasn't mentioned anywhere but maybe it was bundled with the other battery fixes?

vicM · 20-03-2012 5:49pm

battery issue has cropped up with missus phone..anybody know when the Germans are being their update or do I have to flash an update

AntiVirus · 20-03-2012 6:19pm

vicM wrote: »

battery issue has cropped up with missus phone..anybody know when the Germans are being their update or do I have to flash an update

The updates are rolling out now, so it should be any day soon. I just checked to see if you could download it but the Germany one is not there. Then again you can use anyone you want. Country Variant ones are the one's that are unbranded. Remember flashing your phone will reset everything on it..

On another note, Nokia Drive version 2 is out now. This now has an offline mode. Also there's a new Nokia maps out.

chrislad · 20-03-2012 7:00pm

Yay! Meteor is in that list so should be earlier than next week. No update as of 2 minutes ago.

Kenny Powers · 20-03-2012 9:29pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

AntiVirus wrote: »

Could you explain how you do this on the iPhone?

No bother.
After adding an email account you can go into the account settings and add more SMTP servers that the account can use. The servers from other mail accounts on the phone are also listed there and can also be used by each account. Clear as mud?:)
Here's a pic......

What's the purpose of this do you mind me asking?

kaizersoze · 21-03-2012 2:39am

Kenny Powers wrote: »

What's the purpose of this do you mind me asking?

Don't mind at all.:)
You can usually only send emails through the SMTP server of your ISP (internet provider).
Being able to add multiple SMTP servers means I can send emails from various locations depending on who I'm connected to the internet with.

For example, the phone would be connected to the internet on my eircom broadband connection in the office so the email accounts need to be set to the Eircom SMTP. When I'm on the road I'd be connected to the internet via the O2 mobile network so the email accounts would need to be configured to send via the O2 SMTP server.
On the Lumia I'd have to manually go into the settings and change the server settings each time I changed from one internet connection to another.
On the iPhone I can input multiple servers and the email would be sent through whichever server was available.

evolutionqy7 · 21-03-2012 9:45am

Would you not rather just sign up for a normal hotmail and there would be no need for any of that?

TBi · 21-03-2012 10:27am

kaizersoze wrote: »

Don't mind at all.:)
You can usually only send emails through the SMTP server of your ISP (internet provider).
Being able to add multiple SMTP servers means I can send emails from various locations depending on who I'm connected to the internet with.

For example, the phone would be connected to the internet on my eircom broadband connection in the office so the email accounts need to be set to the Eircom SMTP. When I'm on the road I'd be connected to the internet via the O2 mobile network so the email accounts would need to be configured to send via the O2 SMTP server.
On the Lumia I'd have to manually go into the settings and change the server settings each time I changed from one internet connection to another.
On the iPhone I can input multiple servers and the email would be sent through whichever server was available.

I'm a bit lost here. Lets say i have an account 'myname@myhost.ie' and my SMTP server is smtp.eircom.ie

When i'm on meteor i use smtp.eircom.ie, when i'm at home i use smtp.eircom.ie, when i'm at work using our own corportate network i use smtp.eircom.ie, when i'm on my friends wifi and he's using smart i use smtp.eircom.ie, when i'm on my friends wifi and he has chorus i use smtp.eircom.ie, when i'm using my friends O2 dongle i use smtp.eircom.ie.

It works everytime.

Why exactly do you need to change it?

kaizersoze · 21-03-2012 12:02pm

There are 9 email accounts setup on the phone, 7 work and 2 personal.

Some will work without changes but more won't. I find it very hit and miss.
The Eircom SMTP fails on the O2 network most of the time. I've always found the Eircom servers unreliable at the best of times anyway.

TBi · 21-03-2012 12:21pm

You can use one SMTP server with all email addresses. I use googles server for all my outgoing email, but you can pick whatever one you want.

Most SMTP servers don't care what email address is sent, as long as you have the right credentials to log into it.

EDIT: As an example, if i want i can send an email as you (if i knew your email address) but you'd get the reply. Or send you an email from 'troika@irelandforsale.com', although i'd never get the reply.

user1842 · 21-03-2012 12:45pm

Looks like they sorted out the battery issues with the new update. Just got nearly 1 1/2 days out of the phone with some pretty long camera usage during that period.

Looks promising

stevenmu · 21-03-2012 4:03pm

TBi wrote: »

You can use one SMTP server with all email addresses. I use googles server for all my outgoing email, but you can pick whatever one you want.

Most SMTP servers don't care what email address is sent, as long as you have the right credentials to log into it.

EDIT: As an example, if i want i can send an email as you (if i knew your email address) but you'd get the reply. Or send you an email from 'troika@irelandforsale.com', although i'd never get the reply.

SMTP servers which require authentication, such as google's are often pretty flexible like that. Traditionally many ISP's SMTP servers didn't require authentication, so to prevent them being used as spam relays they would only relay emails from that users on that ISPs network.

TBi · 21-03-2012 4:12pm

stevenmu wrote: »

SMTP servers which require authentication, such as google's are often pretty flexible like that.

Hence no need for all those SMTP servers if you use one of these.

stevenmu wrote: »

Traditionally many ISP's SMTP servers didn't require authentication, so to prevent them being used as spam relays they would only relay emails from that users on that ISPs network.

In understand this, but most now use authentication and work on other networks, especially nowadays since people move from network to network a lot more than before.

Still he only needs 1 of the 7 SMTP servers listed if it can use authentication and be flexible. He has GMail listed, so unless there are security concerns he could just use that.

stevenmu · 21-03-2012 4:36pm

TBi wrote: »

Still he only needs 1 of the 7 SMTP servers listed if it can use authentication and be flexible. He has GMail listed, so unless there are security concerns he could just use that.

Yeah, that'd be the best option alright.

evolutionqy7 · 21-03-2012 5:12pm

dmclean1842 wrote: »

Looks like they sorted out the battery issues with the new update. Just got nearly 1 1/2 days out of the phone with some pretty long camera usage during that period.

Looks promising

Finally

vicM · 21-03-2012 10:49pm

Anybody else having problems with proximity sensor? sometimes doesn't work and calls get put on hold mistakenly..
also WIFI sometimes freezers and the phone needs a reboot:-(
might have to flash another ROM to prevent turmoil in this household

Johnzy Fitzgerald · 22-03-2012 12:15am

Quick question (based on the update list that AntiVirus posted)...
I just got my 800 today from Three :-) and in the 'about' section, my carrier is listed as 'CV UK'.
So am I to understand from this that I have the UK Country Variant, and does that mean updates will be available to me as soon as they are released? No having to wait on the carriers (Three in this case)?

Thanks in advance

AntiVirus · 22-03-2012 12:35am

Johnzy Fitzgerald wrote: »

Quick question (based on the update list that AntiVirus posted)...
I just got my 800 today from Three :-) and in the 'about' section, my carrier is listed as 'CV UK'.
So am I to understand from this that I have the UK Country Variant, and does that mean updates will be available to me as soon as they are released? No having to wait on the carriers (Three in this case)?

Thanks in advance

Yip, your correct partly correct. Nokia will push the CV updates to your phone but they do them in batches based on your phones product code.

They do tend to push them out pretty quickly

AntiVirus · 22-03-2012 12:42am

vicM wrote: »

Anybody else having problems with proximity sensor? sometimes doesn't work and calls get put on hold mistakenly..
also WIFI sometimes freezers and the phone needs a reboot:-(
might have to flash another ROM to prevent turmoil in this household

No problems like that on mine but I think I did have the proximity problem when I first got my phone, I remember my ear would then put the call on hold a few times? That would have been back in December and it hasn't happened since. I think a hard reset may have been what fixed it, not sure though

Johnzy Fitzgerald · 22-03-2012 12:55am

Well that's perfect then.
Having to wait (and hope) for the networks to provide updates was one of the main things that I was worried about when moving over to Windows Phone.

Anyway, now that I have your attention, can I ask one more question?
My OS version was listed as 7.10.8107.79, after connecting to the Zune software I was told there was an update available.
I updated and strangely enough the OS version is still 7.10.8107.79.
Although at least one bug seems to have been fixed (when I increased the screen brightness, the capacitive buttons never lit up).

Anyway what I'd like to know is, is 7.10.8107.79 the newest OS version available?
Secondly, should I actually be looking at 'Firmware revision number' instead to find out how up to date my phone is?

Thanks again by the way. It's greatly appreciated.

AntiVirus · 22-03-2012 1:12am

Johnzy Fitzgerald wrote: »

Well that's perfect then.
Having to wait (and hope) for the networks to provide updates was one of the main things that I was worried about when moving over to Windows Phone.

Anyway, now that I have your attention, can I ask one more question?
My OS version was listed as 7.10.8107.79, after connecting to the Zune software I was told there was an update available.
I updated and strangely enough the OS version is still 7.10.8107.79.
Although at least one bug seems to have been fixed (when I increased the screen brightness, the capacitive buttons never lit up).

Anyway what I'd like to know is, is 7.10.8107.79 the newest OS version available?
Secondly, should I actually be looking at 'Firmware revision number' instead to find out how up to date my phone is?

Thanks again by the way. It's greatly appreciated.

The latest update for the Lumia is a firmware update not OS. The latest OS is the one you've listed above. It sounds like you have the latest firmware which fixed the buttons bug.

The firmware version should end 8107.12070. There should be a big improvement with your music sound. Also the battery bug has been fixed too.

Johnzy Fitzgerald · 22-03-2012 3:05am

Yup, I seem to have the the latest firmware alright.
Handy too, as that button bug already already had me annoyed. Never had a chance to notice any other obvious bugs/battery problems though.
Cheers for answering my questions by the way.

chrislad · 22-03-2012 7:55pm

Nokia Music now showing up in the Marketplace for me now.

Bulmers · 26-03-2012 5:20pm

Hi All

Just wondering if somone can help, got my new unbranded lumia 800 saturday but the battery life and sound is really bad, quick search on the net and there is new sw for this well known issue but i dont knwo when or how i will get it?

current version is 1600.2483.8107.11501 but i need 12070 variant for the fix - i have an unbranded model on Vodafone, i've noticed on Vodafone forum some members saying they have received it but i stil dont see anything in Zune.

Is there any other way to get the sw onto the phone, or do i just need to wait for it to appear in zune?

cheers

edit: found this website, easy to do, hopefully battery will improve now http://nokiainnovation.com/2012/03/guide-how-to-get-the-latest-lumia-800-update-now/

AntiVirus · 26-03-2012 8:08pm

Bulmers wrote: »

edit: found this website, easy to do, hopefully battery will improve now http://nokiainnovation.com/2012/03/guide-how-to-get-the-latest-lumia-800-update-now/

Thats too easy!

The handy thing about using the cab sender method is it keeps all your data the other way using Nokia Care Suite deletes all your data and you have to re-install all your apps again.

Corruptedmorals · 26-03-2012 8:54pm

Bulmers wrote: »

Hi All

Just wondering if somone can help, got my new unbranded lumia 800 saturday but the battery life and sound is really bad, quick search on the net and there is new sw for this well known issue but i dont knwo when or how i will get it?

current version is 1600.2483.8107.11501 but i need 12070 variant for the fix - i have an unbranded model on Vodafone, i've noticed on Vodafone forum some members saying they have received it but i stil dont see anything in Zune.

Is there any other way to get the sw onto the phone, or do i just need to wait for it to appear in zune?

cheers

edit: found this website, easy to do, hopefully battery will improve now http://nokiainnovation.com/2012/03/guide-how-to-get-the-latest-lumia-800-update-now/

Few comments under that making me too wary to use that. I'll wait for the official one I think.

I know my phone is coutry variant Germany but it doesn't list that under carrier in about..is that normal?

chrislad · 26-03-2012 8:59pm

chrislad wrote: »

I'm on 1600.2483.8107.11501. Hopefully not enough of a change to delay the update.

Just forced the updated and went from that firmware to 1600.2487.8107.12070

Will report back in a few days and report on the battery, which was the only issue I was having.

AntiVirus · 26-03-2012 9:19pm

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Few comments under that making me too wary to use that. I'll wait for the official one I think.

I know my phone is coutry variant Germany but it doesn't list that under carrier in about..is that normal?

This has been out for quite a while and is working fine. This method was developed over on xda well before the Nokia Lumia was out. This way of flashing is perfectly sate and is in fact a lot safer than updating with Zune!

You can backup your phone before hand using this.

AlmostCared · 26-03-2012 10:51pm

I recently won a Samsung Galaxy Note and I absolutely hate android so I would love to change over to a Windows Phone, specifically the Nokia Lumia 800. I was just wondering from user experience what are the main problems with the phone itself and the Windows OS? Thanks a million. Hopefully this will help me decide what to do.

chrislad · 27-03-2012 6:25pm

55% left after 12 hours. Was getting low battery warnings at this stage yesterday.

evolutionqy7 · 27-03-2012 6:38pm

AlmostCared wrote: »

I recently won a Samsung Galaxy Note and I absolutely hate android so I would love to change over to a Windows Phone, specifically the Nokia Lumia 800. I was just wondering from user experience what are the main problems with the phone itself and the Windows OS? Thanks a million. Hopefully this will help me decide what to do.

Well all the problems that were following on the launch are sort of gone now. Battery and sound were the main ones as far as I recall.

Nokia pushed out updates to fix those. So none that I can name right now

The only downside I see of this is that it doesn't have a front facing camera, but if you don't intend to use Skype on your phone a lot I wouldn't be worried

Yggr of Asgard · 28-03-2012 9:11am

I installed the latest firmware now and for the first time since I have my nice Lumia I survived more then 24 hours without a charge, this morning I still have 33% left with an estimated additonal 10 hours, sure 34 hours is still nowhere near the advertising but I am on 3 with push e-mail for 2 exchange accounts so that is a new record for me.

evolutionqy7 · 28-03-2012 9:20am

dublin-texas wrote: »

I installed the latest firmware now and for the first time since I have my nice Lumia I survived more then 24 hours without a charge, this morning I still have 33% left with an estimated additonal 10 hours, sure 34 hours is still nowhere near the advertising but I am on 3 with push e-mail for 2 exchange accounts so that is a new record for me.

Its the most your going to get out of a phone with 1500 mah battery.

Unless your an extremely light user

vicM · 28-03-2012 1:04pm

dublin-texas wrote: »

I installed the latest firmware now and for the first time since I have my nice Lumia I survived more then 24 hours without a charge, this morning I still have 33% left with an estimated additonal 10 hours, sure 34 hours is still nowhere near the advertising but I am on 3 with push e-mail for 2 exchange accounts so that is a new record for me.

Was this an update via zune or you forced it?

Antar Bolaeisk · 28-03-2012 6:54pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Well all the problems that were following on the launch are sort of gone now. Battery and sound were the main ones as far as I recall.

Nokia pushed out updates to fix those. So none that I can name right now The only downside I see of this is that it doesn't have a front facing camera, but if you don't intend to use Skype on your phone a lot I wouldn't be worried

You can always stand in front of a mirror when skyping

chrislad · 28-03-2012 7:51pm

chrislad wrote: »

Just forced the updated and went from that firmware to 1600.2487.8107.12070

Will report back in a few days and report on the battery, which was the only issue I was having.

Two days testing and I'm much happier. On 30% now after taking off charge at about 7am, and I turned on push email for the first time in two weeks. I did a quick diagnostic with a store model on the older firmware.

I was getting a drain on about 130 on my phone with internet on, push and with phone signal on 3G. The store phone, with no internet, no sim card, no wifi etc, just the phone on with nothing running, was pulling down 180.

Yggr of Asgard · 29-03-2012 8:56am

vicM wrote: »

Was this an update via zune or you forced it?

Forced it, got tired of waiting for it.

But it looks like Nokia is now pushing it out world wide, you can check the status of the push here:

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/nokia-lumia-800-software-update/nokia-lumia-800-software-update-availability

Corruptedmorals · 29-03-2012 12:31pm

dublin-texas wrote: »

vicM wrote: »

Was this an update via zune or you forced it?

Forced it, got tired of waiting for it.

But it looks like Nokia is now pushing it out world wide, you can check the status of the push here:

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/nokia-lumia-800-software-update/nokia-lumia-800-software-update-availability

Mine is listed as available, and nothing. And unbranded, no waiting for carrier approval. Will have to force it after all.

Neffa2 · 29-03-2012 12:47pm

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Mine is listed as available, and nothing. And unbranded, no waiting for carrier approval. Will have to force it after all.

Same for me (unbranded phone, no Irish carrier) - Zune pushed it this morning, so I'd say it is imminent for you.

Corruptedmorals · 29-03-2012 1:06pm

Neffa2 wrote: »

Same for me (unbranded phone, no Irish carrier) - Zune pushed it this morning, so I'd say it is imminent for you.

Nevermind, plugged it in again and it's now updating.:D So that's all amazon.de phones.

Fran1985 · 29-03-2012 2:00pm

confused by all this. I'm with Meteor. How do i update to get longer battery life?

evolutionqy7 · 29-03-2012 2:33pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

confused by all this. I'm with Meteor. How do i update to get longer battery life?

You have to update your phone via Zune. Look through a couple of pages of posts. You will see it

Corruptedmorals · 29-03-2012 2:37pm

It's not available officially on Meteor yet. You just have to plug your phone into a pc/laptop and when zune starts up there's an option to update your phone now. You can force the update using the guide on the last few pages of this thread, or wait- they are rolling them out fast, it would probably be there within a week.

hadoken13 · 03-04-2012 1:37pm

Have to say this update has really improved the battery life in this phone - I guess I will be keeping it now.

At the moment time since last charge: 1 day 17 hours, estimated time remaining: 9 hours. I will admit I always have 3g and Wifi turned off until I get home from work - but I turn it on now and again during the day to check stuff. I also listen to music for around 2 hours a day on the way to work.

Ronan H · 03-04-2012 2:24pm

hadoken13 wrote: »

Have to say this update has really improved the battery life in this phone - I guess I will be keeping it now.

At the moment time since last charge: 1 day 17 hours, estimated time remaining: 9 hours. I will admit I always have 3g and Wifi turned off until I get home from work - but I turn it on now and again during the day to check stuff. I also listen to music for around 2 hours a day on the way to work.

Amen to all of that. It really has shifted the phone into the "usable and practical" category. Prior to the updates I was having issues with switching the phone on when it drained fully, it wouldn't even switch on when plugged in, but that seems to have been addressed too.

I am also glad that there has finally been some updates for the navigation software which has improved its usability also.

I guess I am happy with the phone for now

.

mad muffin · 03-04-2012 2:30pm

Anyone here know if it supports emoji that is compatible with the iPhone?

adox · 03-04-2012 2:32pm

Have this coming to me either tomorrow or Thursday as a work phone, after suffering with a HTC Wildfire S for the last few months. Awful phone.

Looking forward to the Lumia. Hopefully I will enjoy using it a lot more than the HTC.:)

Ronan H · 03-04-2012 2:54pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Anyone here know if it supports emoji that is compatible with the iPhone?

I haven't tried it yet, but this looks interesting.

Edit: I just sent myself a text with the Emoji (b) which represents a pint of beer. It worked fine, but I guess it's a bit more cumbersome than the iPhone because you have to type the characters in as opposed to tapping on the Emoji in a list. I doubt I'd remember them all!

Further Edit: The full list thats linked to in the above article is very hard to read, so here are two more links where the pictures and characters are a bit clearer:

Here and Here

Nokia Lumia 800

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