Nokia Lumia 800

Elessar

Does anyone have one?

I used to be a big iPhone fan, then switched to Android (Galaxy S2 is my current) but now I want to try Nokias Windows phone comeback.

Anyone have one? What do you think?

Phonesonline have it for €540.

anthony4335

Got one a couple of weeks ago. First off , it feels nice in the hand, the software is as good as the rest for what I use it for ,light surfing, email calls and messages. It has all the apps I used on my android, news and weather ,facebook, youtube etc . The one thing is that it is not flash compatible so rte player is out, but it has a youtube app so thats good. One thing is the one I have does not allow a personal hotsopt nor tethering (T-mobile germany have this removed) so If you want this you might want to wait for an official sim free unit. So at the moment I still prefer Android ,just but I prefer the nokia phone. So would I suggest you buy it, try the window phone and see if you would like it as a software, if you do the Nokia will not let you down and I would say go for it. Otherwise stick with Android. Hope this helps.

AntiVirus

I've just ordered my cyan Nokia Lumia 800 from Germany for 479 euros sim free. You can get the black Nokia Lumia 800 from Germany for 408 euros.

http://www.guenstiger.de/Preisvergleich/Nokia/Lumia_800.html

nialldinho

AntiVirus wrote: »

I've just ordered my cyan Nokia Lumia 800 from Germany for 479 euros sim free. You can get the black Nokia Lumia 800 from Germany for 408 euros.

http://www.guenstiger.de/Preisvergleich/Nokia/Lumia_800.html

Is that one for 408 sim free?

AntiVirus

nialldinho wrote: »

Is that one for 408 sim free?

It is sim free but it does have T-Mobile branding. There is no T-Mobile branding on the phone but it might have a T-Mobile splash screen on start up for a couple seconds after the Nokia splash screen.

nialldinho

AntiVirus wrote: »

It is sim free but it does have T-Mobile branding. There is no T-Mobile branding on the phone but it might have a T-Mobile splash screen on start up for a couple seconds after the Nokia splash screen.

cool. thanks.

the cheapest site with all the positive reviews, mobilebomber.de, doesn't seem to ship to ireland though!

CyberGhost

DO, NOT, BUY.

WP7 is terrible, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes, no, in 5 minutes.

WP7 has no developer support, Microsoft pays developers to develop apps for them.

Trust me you'll be throwing money away.

jahalpin

CyberGhost wrote: »

DO, NOT, BUY.

WP7 is terrible, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes, no, in 5 minutes.

WP7 has no developer support, Microsoft pays developers to develop apps for them.

Trust me you'll be throwing money away.

I have had a Windows Phone 7 (HTC HD7) phone for the last few months and have been very impressed with it.

Windows Phone 7 is very well designed and is probably the best mobile OS out there at the moment. It is a lot better than both iOS and Android. The Mango update sorted out most of the problems in the first release

I have had both iPhones and Android phones and the Microsoft Phone is much better and much faster.

The Android phones need far higher speced hardware to run properly than the Windows Phone. I have used several Android phones including the Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S2 and the SE Xperia X10 mini

iOS looks like it was designed by Fisher Price. The hardware spec in iPhones prior to the 4S was a joke and Apple's extremely closed system is terrible. The recurring serious bugs in the iOS updates are also extremely worrying especially considering that all hardware is controlled by Apple.

While it's true that there are fewer apps in the Windows Marketplace than the Android or iTunes this should change now that Nokia has put its support behind it. A lot of the Android apps are terrible and should be avoided

AntiVirus

CyberGhost wrote: »

DO, NOT, BUY.

WP7 is terrible, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes, no, in 5 minutes.

Some one will say that about every OS. Just look at all the problems people are having with Android! Laggy, crashing, apps not working, virus, etc... the list goes on and on. The best advice I always see for Android is to buy the most powerfull phone you can and you'll still have all those problems. Or you'll often here about flashing on this rom or that rom etc... I was doing this long before Android was out and you'll get bored of having to do this all the time. You'll just want a phone that works.

The girds of icons on iPhone's were great when they came out but now its a bit Windows 95 ish. Still imo its a better choice than Android.

CyberGhost wrote: »

WP7 has no developer support

It's only been out just over a year now and the app store growth rate is on par with apples iphone growth rate and reached the 40,000 apps faster than Android did. So developer support is growing faster than it did for Android and at the same rate as the iPhone.

Just do a quick google for the WP7 app market growth rate and you see how fast its growing.

http://www.netbooknews.com/36778/windows-phone-7-app-store-growth-on-par-with-ios/

CyberGhost wrote: »

Microsoft pays developers to develop apps for them.

Who could say thats a bad thing? It shows that Microsoft are commited to the WP7 os and want to bring the numbers of apps up at a quick rate and its working well.



You're always best off doing some research before buying a phone so just do a google to read the latest reviews of the WP7 operating system to see whats said. I haven't seen any reviews where they have recommended not to get it. All reviews have been very positive. The only downside you could say is the lack of apps (over 40,000) at the moment but they all expect this to grow and the growth of the market place proves they are right.

AntiVirus

In case anyone is interested, Simply Electronics are selling the Nokia Lumia 800 for 445 euros (black model) and 449 euros (Cyan model) with free delivery to Ireland and both are in stock.

http://electronics.simplyelectronics.net/search?currency=eur&w=nokia%20lumia%20800&asug=

nialldinho

any sign of the 710 coming out soon?

AntiVirus

nialldinho wrote: »

any sign of the 710 coming out soon?

It could be the first week in January in the UK, no sign of when either will be out in Ireland, sometime in Q1 2012

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/nokia-lumia-710-uk-release-date-6-january--1046255

hadoken13

anthony4335 wrote: »

One thing is the one I have does not allow a personal hotsopt nor tethering (T-mobile germany have this removed) so If you want this you might want to wait for an official sim free unit.

Nokia have stated (not sure if it is 100% official though) that they will make tethering available in the new year as it currently is not available anywhere on the 800.

CyberGhost wrote: »

DO, NOT, BUY.

WP7 is terrible, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes, no, in 5 minutes.

WP7 has no developer support, Microsoft pays developers to develop apps for them.

Trust me you'll be throwing money away.

Go troll somewhere else.

hadoken13

AntiVirus wrote: »

In case anyone is interested, Simply Electronics are selling the Nokia Lumia 800 for 445 euros (black model) and 449 euros (Cyan model) with free delivery to Ireland and both are in stock.

http://electronics.simplyelectronics.net/search?currency=eur&w=nokia%20lumia%20800&asug=

How trustworthy is this site or that German site you ordered off? And does it come with any warranty?

AntiVirus

hadoken13 wrote: »

How trustworthy is this site or that German site you ordered off? And does it come with any warranty?

I ordered off Digitalo.de and it has scored 4.64 out of 5 on Trusted Shops from 356 reviews in the last 12 months so thats pretty good. It comes with a 12 month warranty.

https://www.trustedshops.de/bewertung/info_XC2B7EDDBF6E300C2B5744DDB9C1476F0.html


Simply Electronics scored 4.1 out of 5 on the Review Centre from 1864 reviews so that's scored pretty good too.

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews230803.html

Trevor451

hadoken13 wrote: »

How trustworthy is this site or that German site you ordered off? And does it come with any warranty?

From other threads on boards, they seem to be legit.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056437473

and yes the phone would come with a warranty

hadoken13

Edited.

kmart6

Don't feed the troll...he was at it on the N8 thread too...makes one inflammatory statement and pisses off!

wheresmybeaver

My SO got the Lumia 800 from Amazon, it's a bit more expensive but from previous experience dealing with Amazon I know if there is any kind of an issue in the next year we can get it sorted quickly and satisfactorily.

She's been using it since Monday and she's relly happy with it. It's her first smartphone and she has had zero problems navigating the phone, sending messages, downloading apps, hooking up her email, pinning stuff to the Start screen etc. I think because she never used an iPhone or Android phone she has no preconceptions and the whole thing just works intuitively for her.

I've been using a HD7 for more than a year now so of course I'm sold on WP7. The Lumia 800 is a little heavier than I was expecting it to be but the screen and build quality is amazing. The battery still has about 25% left over in the evening even though she has been using it a fair bit throughout the day. Anybody she has shown it to has also been mighty impressed, especially those with existing Nokia smart / dumbphones. Nokia have cracked it by moving away from Symbian I think.

garethmc

do now hesitate, WP7 is the best mobile OS out there. Have tried them all. Got the HD7 the Titan and thinking of getting the Lumia 800 (love nokia) NOTE: lumia 900 coming out hopefully early 2011...

kirving

Great to hear the good reviews, wil be getting a Lumia 900 if it comes out by May when my contract is up. Hopefully Meteor will stock it.

hadoken13

garethmc wrote: »

do now hesitate, WP7 is the best mobile OS out there. Have tried them all. Got the HD7 the Titan and thinking of getting the Lumia 800 (love nokia) NOTE: lumia 900 coming out hopefully early 2011...

Don't hold your breath for the 900 being released early over here as the 800 will only be released early next year and the 900 may be only launched in the US and select markets first.

wheresmybeaver

hadoken13 wrote: »

Don't hold your breath for the 900 being released early over here as the 800 will only be released early next year and the 900 may be only launched in the US and select markets first.

Yeah I think the 900 is being custom made for their LTE network so it's unlikely we'll see it here. But because Nokia is now heavily invested in WP7 for their smartphone line I would be very surprised if we don't see one or two new Nokia WP7 handsets by June. WP8 is due by this time as well so you can be sure that Nokia will be coming out all guns blazing.

micko2009

Was thinking of getting the Lumia online as Irish networks seem to be slow off mark with availability. Looked at simplyelectronics/digitalo and the prices seem ok.

@AntiVirus So have you received the phone yet? Am I right in saying that all the german models will have the T-Mobile flash on startup.

I'll be using it on Three Prepaid so just wondering is it just a matter of configuring the settings for 3G access etc. Done that on other networks before just not sure how easy the transition would be on Three... Obviously want everything to work.

Cheers

kmart6

It's just a case of downloading the settings...that' all!

AntiVirus

micko2009 wrote: »

Was thinking of getting the Lumia online as Irish networks seem to be slow off mark with availability. Looked at simplyelectronics/digitalo and the prices seem ok.

@AntiVirus So have you received the phone yet? Am I right in saying that all the german models will have the T-Mobile flash on startup.

I'll be using it on Three Prepaid so just wondering is it just a matter of configuring the settings for 3G access etc. Done that on other networks before just not sure how easy the transition would be on Three... Obviously want everything to work.

Cheers

I got one from Digitalo and one from Amazon.de, both german. The one from Digitalo has a Telekom splash screen show up for about 2 seconds, then the Nokia splash screen shows up. The Amazon one is unbranded so only shows the Nokia splash screen on boot up.

No need to config any settings, plug in your 3 sim card, turn on the phone and it will work. I'm with 3 Ireland too

Great phone!

hadoken13

micko2009 wrote: »

Was thinking of getting the Lumia online as Irish networks seem to be slow off mark with availability. Looked at simplyelectronics/digitalo and the prices seem ok.

@AntiVirus So have you received the phone yet? Am I right in saying that all the german models will have the T-Mobile flash on startup.

I'll be using it on Three Prepaid so just wondering is it just a matter of configuring the settings for 3G access etc. Done that on other networks before just not sure how easy the transition would be on Three... Obviously want everything to work.

Cheers

Looking more likely that Vodafone will not be getting this phone, O2 are getting it (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76212283#post76212283) not sure about Meteor and 3.

simi956

VF will be carrying the Lumia 800, was in chatting to a sales people from the Swords store it will be available in Jan/Feb timeframe

hadoken13

simi956 wrote: »

VF will be carrying the Lumia 800, was in chatting to a sales people from the Swords store it will be available in Jan/Feb timeframe

Then we are getting conflicting opinions as Vodafone on here said it is not coming to the carrier and the same on Twitter and these would be the official responses. As we all well know, sales people will say anything to get a sale - so take what they say with a pinch of salt.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76212319

Colonel Panic

I'm pretty happy with my Lumia 800 and WP7. I'm mostly a Mac user but both Macs and WP7 integrate pretty well with Google Mail, Contacts and Calendars so I'm not missing my iPhone.

The OS is really slick and everything integrates so well and the phone itself it so well put together. I've already dropped it a couple of times and there isn't a single scratch on it!

TBi

I have a first gen HTC Trophy. Really like the WP7 OS. As good as iOS and in my opinion far better than Android.

I really wanted the Lumia 800 but i'm put off by only 16GB storage and i'm not gone on the looks. Looks good in the pictures but in person i didn't like it. Might give it a look again when it is officially released in Ireland.

I'd love if HTC had released a smaller TITAN. I'm not gone on these big phones.

AntiVirus

Maybe wait to see what the new Nokia Lumia 900 is like. Should be more details released soon

TBi

AntiVirus wrote: »

Maybe wait to see what the new Nokia Lumia 900 is like. Should be more details released soon

Hopefully it won't be a 4.7" behemoth like the Galaxy Nexus.

ozymandius

Got Lumia 800 before Christmas. It's great - part of the reason is that it's simply different. I just couldn't get a me-too iPhone and I don't like Android devices. The big selling point to me was that it is only a 3.7" screen. Most android devices are too big for me. The WP UX is really good, very slick. Although what you get is what you're stuck with. There's no real opportunity to tweak it. But that's the modern way. But the OS is still maturing. Which leads to my question ...

A question for anyone who already has one (or other WP7 devices) - the phone is unlocked from Germany (T-Mobile) - should I expect to get updates in the usual way, or are there some hoops to go through seeing as how the phone is not available here yet?

AntiVirus

ozymandius wrote: »

Got Lumia 800 before Christmas. It's great - part of the reason is that it's simply different. I just couldn't get a me-too iPhone and I don't like Android devices. The big selling point to me was that it is only a 3.7" screen. Most android devices are too big for me. The WP UX is really good, very slick. Although what you get is what you're stuck with. There's no real opportunity to tweak it. But that's the modern way. But the OS is still maturing. Which leads to my question ...

A question for anyone who already has one (or other WP7 devices) - the phone is unlocked from Germany (T-Mobile) - should I expect to get updates in the usual way, or are there some hoops to go through seeing as how the phone is not available here yet?

You'll get the updates in the usual way, should be one coming out in the next couple of weeks for the Lumia 800. Nothing to worry about

donkey balls

I eventually moved from an nokia N8 had an ip4 in between to the SG 2 and I have to say the SG2 is unreal I found it easy to use just like my nokias from before,The thing is I'm not convinced about nokia and the os they use I would love to go back to them but after getting burned with the n97&n8 I,ve giving up hope.
The mad thing is I'm due an upgrade and even though I said that I'm finished with them they still imo make the best handset are they using the micro sim with the new handsets these days.

kmart6

The fact you just said 'the OS they use' kinda sounds like your not even aware that it's Windows Phone! Look into it...it's a good OS!

Micro sim depends on the device!

donkey balls

I'm well aware that windows are behind the operating system what I meant to say was with it only being a new device is there any problems with it buggy etc also this micro sim is a load of b*ll*x the one thing that turned me off the ip4,Also is nokia doing something along the lines of the ovi store to support the phone/apps etc to be honest the phone would have to be alot better than the sg2 in order for me to switch back.

evolutionqy7

donkey balls wrote: »

I'm well aware that windows are behind the operating system what I meant to say was with it only being a new device is there any problems with it buggy etc also this micro sim is a load of b*ll*x the one thing that turned me off the ip4,Also is nokia doing something along the lines of the ovi store to support the phone/apps etc to be honest the phone would have to be alot better than the sg2 in order for me to switch back.

Well the OS isnt new. Its over a year old at this stage since launch.

The only bug with the Lumia that in rare cases the firmware doesn't read the full battery amount of the phone. A fix is meant to be coming this month as far as i remember. Just buy a micro sim adapter online. Their only 3.50 on Amazon for a really good one in case you decide you need to pop your sim into a diff phone.

Other than that the phone has been getting great reviews since its launch. WP7 doesnt need high specs and dual core gizmos. Look at any video online and it runs all smooth without a hiccup.

I traded up my Omnia 7 and got myself a HTC Sensation, had a SGS2 before that too. None of those impress me any more than my mid range Omnia 7 did. Omnia operated smoother, had more useful functionality to me and i didnt have to worry about my battery life nearly half as much. It was also alot more pleasant to use.

SGS2 is a great phone. But including me and some of my friends that have SGS2 they wish they had WP7 on it because its easier to use, better battery life, more stable and its clean, its not a mess where one thing works and the other doesnt.

I was really hoping to see the Focus S in the EU here. Cause its a really what i want but cant get. So Lumia 800 is next in the line. Love the Titan but once you go to an amoled screen. You dont really wanna go back to use an SLCD, IPS LCD or any other LCD.

micko2009

I have the Lumia 800 around 10 days now, I messed around with my mates omnia 7 so knew id like the windows platform.

The Lumia 800 (cyan) is by far one of the best looking phones out there right now, moved from my old iphone 3G so its a welcomed change. The apps like nokia maps/drive run well and the rest of the UI is easy to figure out once you give it time... Love the Screen, love the feel of the phone and the live tiles pop right out at you.

However... I feel like Nokia should have waited till the new year until they released the lumia. The phone obviously wasn't tested fully! I like many others are suffering from the battery issues where the phone in some cases is lasting about 4-6 hours on light enough use, the standby time seems to be good but once you start using it heavily you can feel the battery draining, the fear sets in. In general the more charge cycles I give the battery it seems to be getting marginally better.

I hope the software patch comes quickly cause I want Nokia and Microsoft to succeed, they needed to nail the Lumia 800 from launch and its been tainted by the battery issue. Seems alot of people are having the same issue on the Nokia forum aswell. I'll be returning it if its not sorted with the update, in my eyes any phone needs to last at least a 12 hour day.

AntiVirus

I have the battery bug on my Lumia, mine only charges up to 970mah out of 1500. They did say anyone with the battery bug could either wait for the update or send it back, I decided to wait. Other than that in very pleased with the Lumia. :-)

You won't have to wait to much longer for the battery fix. The update is coming out on the 12th of this month.

podgeandrodge

no fm transmitter?? Shame, stick with N8 for now...

evolutionqy7

podgeandrodge wrote: »

no fm transmitter?? Shame, stick with N8 for now...

I bloody hate them things. Their a waste of battery and time. Bluetooth music streaming is less painful. No interference

podgeandrodge

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

I bloody hate them things. Their a waste of battery and time. Bluetooth music streaming is less painful. No interference

My car radio, and home hifi, kitchen radios are not bluetooth enabled though.

evolutionqy7

podgeandrodge wrote: »

My car radio, and home hifi, kitchen radios are not bluetooth enabled though.

Well thats a bummer. But car stereos with bt a2dp are quite cheap these days. You can pick one up even from lidl under a 100 euro.

But speaking from experience. I used to think FM streaming was better cause you had a radio everywhere.

But since i left the N97 and started using bt for it its alot less hasle and its easier on the battery. The constant interferences used to be a head wrecker too.

Got bt audio streaming supported headunit in the car and bought a belkin bt reciever for my home cinema. Plug that in through aux and i can stream from the phone to the home cinema system

Simples

On another note:

Any one know does the Lumia 800 uses an embedded msd card or actual flash storage?

stevenf17

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Any one know does the Lumia 800 uses an embedded msd card or actual flash storage?

Its actual flash, you can have a look at the innards here yourself.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=395988&fcc_id=%27LJPA
Then go down and click on internal.

TBi

TBi wrote: »

Hopefully it won't be a 4.7" behemoth like the Galaxy Nexus.

4.3" behemoth!

PaulieC

Does anyone have any feedback (good and expecially bad) on the camera on this yoke? I have a HD7 at the moment, but the camera is woeful, will be upgrading as soon as the Lumia 800 comes out (depending on carrier availability)

micko2009

the focus is abit twitchy and it doesn't produce great results on automode.. It Does take decent pictures though compared to other phones I've seen..

I can't find too much info online about the Lumia camera. Theres a page review here with some examples.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800-review-686p6.php

If you come across any more, post them up.. Would like to know about the camera settings for different environments.

elderlemon

Er no. Its 4.65" see http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-4219.php

TBi wrote: »

4.3" behemoth!

hadoken13

Vodafone have just announced that they are getting this handset in - just saw a few tweets from them about it. At least now I won't have to change operators.