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Fuel Prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Most of the garages around my area have gone down from €1.56 last week to €1.50-€1.51 in the last few days. I never thought I'd be happy to be "only" paying €1.50 a litre.

    oh ya, and where do you live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Donne wrote: »
    Anyone know why fuel prices have being throught the roof?

    VAT increases since January and the euro falling in value against the dollar. The stuff happening in Iran doesn't help either.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,818 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    el diablo wrote: »
    Donne wrote: »
    Anyone know why fuel prices have being throught the roof?

    VAT increases since January and the euro falling in value against the dollar. The stuff happening in Iran doesn't help either.


    FWIW the SO has found that changing to Topaz lately has seen an increase in mpg in the Saab 1.9 Tid......

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Crazy for this to be happening within two weeks! Diesel is gone from 149 to 155 in the garage I got it in and passed another (well known rip off) and it was actually the same price as petrol at 159!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    So....let's organise a protest. **** this 1.59.9 ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    425545_433072024942_507049942_1523060_400162256_n.jpg

    Less than three years ago...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Less than three years ago...

    A sunny day? :eek:

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    double post


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    ottostreet wrote: »
    425545_433072024942_507049942_1523060_400162256_n.jpg

    Less than three years ago...
    Such a liar.. the clock in the corner says 2012 :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Tallon wrote: »
    Such a liar.. the clock in the corner says 2012 :rolleyes:

    I hope that's a wind-up? :cool:

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Corkboi


    These prices are sickening, I've been in Saudi now for the past three years and 30 Litres of petrol cost me the equivalent of 3 euro 50 cents and they have not changed since I've been here. Hate coming home to that S***.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    Its ridiculous alright, filling a tank from empty is like a game of chicken, I often buckle before it goes all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    would ya look at the prices just three years ago

    55c in the difference

    those were the days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    As surprised as I was at the 159.9 for unleaded in the apple on the m1, my jaw actually dropped when I saw the topaz in omnipark Santry. 161.jaysusin9 :eek:


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fryup wrote: »
    would ya look at the prices just three years ago

    55c in the difference

    those were the days


    .... weird, I didn't think petrol was that cheap in 2009 tbh, I must have a peak at my excel file later :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    RoverJames wrote: »
    .... weird, I didn't think petrol was that cheap in 2009 tbh, I must have a peak at my excel file later :)

    Yeah it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    RoverJames wrote: »
    .... weird, I didn't think petrol was that cheap in 2009 tbh, I must have a peak at my excel file later :)

    Here's some of mine January - April 2009 (Diesel)
    Jan-09	Litres				c/litre 	Location
    4	€28.34	30.54			92.8		Topaz, Ashbourne
    9	€35.62	39.67			89.8		Applegreen, Celbridge
    17	€42.30	43.65			96.9		Maxol Dundalk
    28	€39.41	41.05			95.9		Maxol Maynooth
    Feb						
    11	€42.04	44.82			93.8		Applegreen, Celbridge
    22	€34.92	37.19			93.9		Texaco,Lucan
    March						
    1	€35.77	38.09			93.9		Top, Enfield
    7	€23.16	24.4			94.9		Maxol, Kilbride
    12	€39.82	44.34			89.9		Applegreen, Celbridge
    15	SERVICED					161055	
    19	€24.26	27.63			87.8		Applegreen, Celbridge
    26	€35.01	38.99			89.9		Applegreen, Celbridge
    April						
    6	€27.72	28.6			96.9		Maxol, Leixlip
    19	€30.92	31.26			98.9		Esso, Fairyhouse
    


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I have not filled the tank up since some time last year. I would have done it every week but with the prices I just don't. If it goes down alot I well be back to filling the tank once again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    question - we all know about diesel but can petrol be laundered???

    i'm only asking as some stations seem to be doing below cost selling??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    cena wrote: »
    I have not filled the tank up since some time last year. I would have done it every week but with the prices I just don't. If it goes down alot I well be back to filling the tank once again
    You'll be waitin!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    RoverJames wrote: »
    .... weird, I didn't think petrol was that cheap in 2009 tbh, I must have a peak at my excel file later :)

    Weird, about this time last year, fuel went to €1.60 according to my hand written log. And shortly thereafter it dropped back to or just over €1.00

    THEN the Gov stepped in and put it right back up again. :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Gingernuts31


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Yeah it was.

    Strange. I stoped getting juice travelling from Laois to Bray for work in July 2007 and the petrol was 103. I was glad I stopped the travelling then because It was starting to hit me pocket wise even at 103.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    Strange. I stoped getting juice travelling from Laois to Bray for work in July 2007 and the petrol was 103. I was glad I stopped the travelling then because It was starting to hit me pocket wise even at 103.

    There was a previous peak of ~ 139.9 for diesel in July 2008 (when price per barrel of oil hit ~$150)

    Today a barrel of Brent is in the region of $120 but as the Euro vs $ has weakened since, and the Government has raised excise a number of times we are paying more today.

    5y_small.gif


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gbee wrote: »
    Weird, about this time last year, fuel went to €1.60 according to my hand written log. And shortly thereafter it dropped back to or just over €1.00

    THEN the Gov stepped in and put it right back up again. :mad::mad::mad:


    This time last year it dropped to just over €1.00 ........ :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    I saw a texaco in cork last night and it was selling
    diesel 159.9
    Petrol 162.9

    Needless to say, I stopped elsewhere for fuel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    pa990 wrote: »
    I saw a texaco in cork last night and it was selling
    diesel 159.9
    Petrol 162.9

    Needless to say, I stopped elsewhere for fuel
    I saw diesel for 159.9 on the N2 (topaz), I saw it for 152.9 in my usual dublin haunt (reccomended about a year ago by a taxi driver), and 151.9 in kildare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    I saw diesel for 159.9 on the N2 (topaz), I saw it for 152.9 in my usual dublin haunt (reccomended about a year ago by a taxi driver), and 151.9 in kildare.


    Back to the point raised before .. as retailers claim there is no margin on fuel are the cheaper ones selling at a loss, using laundered fuel or mixing laundered with legit fuel to increase margins?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    creedp wrote: »
    Back to the point raised before .. as retailers claim there is no margin on fuel are the cheaper ones selling at a loss, using laundered fuel or mixing laundered with legit fuel to increase margins?
    I suspect the retailers who tell us there's no margin on fuel are being economical with the truth. Either that or their idea of a reasonable margin is the 100% they take on what they sell in the shop. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    creedp wrote: »
    Back to the point raised before .. as retailers claim there is no margin on fuel are the cheaper ones selling at a loss, using laundered fuel or mixing laundered with legit fuel to increase margins?
    Well I have noticed differences of over 10 cent per litre for diesel and about 8 cent for petrol in the past few days, the further away from Dublin, the lower the prices imo.

    I think the story of the "poor garage" with "no margin on fuel" is codswallop tbh, if there is no profit then get out of the game!! The retail fuel stations make plenty of profit, but they hide it well, is my guess, so people attack the high taxes (rightly, when over €1/litre is tax:mad:) and not the "poor innocent garage"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    I think the story of the "poor garage" with "no margin on fuel" is codswallop tbh, if there is no profit then get out of the game!! The retail fuel stations make plenty of profit, but they hide it well, is my guess, so people attack the high taxes (rightly, when over €1/litre is tax:mad:) and not the "poor innocent garage"

    No really it is only a few cent margin.
    Back in 2008, the NCA did a report and found that it really is only a few cent per litre http://corporate.nca.ie/eng/Research_Zone/Reports/NCA_petrol_and_diesel_price_investigation.doc
    http://pumps.ie/v3/FAQPricesExplained.php


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I've heard it said here many times that the GP% on fuel is cq. 5%. So if a garage is selling 5million litres (which would be a pretty busy garage I assume) of fuel per year @ €1.60 per litre their gross profit would be €400k for the year, before they pay rent, rate, staff, public liability, taxes. etc, etc. Keep in mind they would be operating for anything from 16-24 hours per day.

    No wonder they need the shop in all fairnes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    When i worked in a petrol station, statoil sent around a breakdown of cost, which i saw a few times, when they changed the price, was always shocked with how little the business took in from fuel.

    the is a boardsie who runs a station and he will testify to how **** it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    cabrwab wrote: »
    the is a boardsie who runs a station and he will testify to how **** it is.
    Well I must thank him and all the other station owners for their charity. Poor them.

    FFS there must be money in fuel sales or they would close and just run the shop as a standalone:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Testament1


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Well I must thank him and all the other station owners for their charity. Poor them.

    FFS there must be money in fuel sales or they would close and just run the shop as a standalone:rolleyes:

    Fuel attracts customers who may purchase other goods while in the store which is where they'll make money. Price of fuel in this country is still ridiculous though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    So...when's the protest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Testament1 wrote: »
    Fuel attracts customers who may purchase other goods while in the store which is where they'll make money. Price of fuel in this country is still ridiculous though.

    So they keep on running an unviable loss making (or break even) product (fuel sales) just to get people in?

    I call bolloks on that. The amount of expense needed to open and maintain a fuel station alone renders it not a viable plan just to be break even.
    And also - why is it more expensive in Dublin? By 10 cpl sometimes!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    ottostreet wrote: »
    So...when's the protest?

    next week

    in Athens :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    So they keep on running an unviable loss making (or break even) product (fuel sales) just to get people in?

    Quick, someone inform the Licensed Vintners Association, they'll sort these loss-leading shenanigans out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    So they keep on running an unviable loss making (or break even) product (fuel sales) just to get people in?

    I call bolloks on that. The amount of expense needed to open and maintain a fuel station alone renders it not a viable plan just to be break even.
    And also - why is it more expensive in Dublin? By 10 cpl sometimes!!!!!

    There's fewer than half the number of petrol stations in this country then there were in 1995. They didn't all close down because they were making too much money on fuel. I worked in a petrol station during my college years and if we made 3 cent a litre we were doing very well, and this was a very busy site with an owner who wasn't afraid to bargain with the supplier. I've no connection with the business now, or the fuel retail industry generally, but trust me on this, I saw the invoices myself.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RoverJames wrote: »
    .... weird, I didn't think petrol was that cheap in 2009 tbh, I must have a peak at my excel file later :)

    Indeed it was, April 09 I was buying petrol at €1.049/litre, in Feb 09 I had a diesel and it was €0.899/litre.

    In fairness though, I'd like to mention that in Sep 08 diesel was costing me €1.299/litre and in July 08 it was €1.399/litre.

    In July 07 I was paying €1.229/litre of unleaded.

    So taking 3 years ago's figures from today's is admittedly startling but they were fairly low relatively at the time :)



    Just about the margin thing, no doubt the margin on fuel is less than the margin on Mars Bars but there is no fuel retailer making an actual loss on selling fuel, the mark up is no doubt feck all in comparison to the mark up on the rest of the stuff but they're making something on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭ofcork


    I assume thats why many stations basically became mini supermarkets,people coming in paying for fuel and picking up other items as they were there pricey as they were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Blut2 wrote: »
    Quick, someone inform the Licensed Vintners Association, they'll sort these loss-leading shenanigans out!
    Unrelated rubbish of a post.
    There's fewer than half the number of petrol stations in this country then there were in 1995. They didn't all close down because they were making too much money on fuel, but the remainder stayed open (presumably for their own good healh?). I worked in a petrol station during my college years and if we made 3 cent a litre we were doing very well, and this was a very busy site with an owner who wasn't afraid to bargain with the supplier. I've no connection with the business now, or the fuel retail industry generally, but trust me on this, I saw the invoices myself.
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    how can some guy afford to sell petrol at 147.9 :confused:

    in a few places the petrol is cheaper than the diesel very odd:confused:

    take a look at latest prices Pumps.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    There's fewer than half the number of petrol stations in this country then there were in 1995. They didn't all close down because they were making too much money on fuel.
    I'd imagine a lot closed down because their owners cashed in on the rapidly appreciating site values.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    prices have dropped a wee bit

    last week at my local 168.9 for petrol

    this week .........163.9

    hope it continues


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    philstar wrote: »
    prices have dropped a wee bit

    last week at my local 168.9 for petrol

    this week .........163.9

    hope it continues
    Yeah, can't wait to see €0.899 per litre again...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Seweryn wrote: »
    Yeah, can't wait to see €0.899 per litre again...

    Beer maybe...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    Beer maybe...
    Well, at least we are going the right direction ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Seweryn wrote: »
    Yeah, can't wait to see €0.899 per litre again...

    Green diesel at 0.89 is a deal!
    I've started paying by card so I don't have to pay attention to the price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,506 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    We think we have it bad; yesterday E95 unleaded in Italy was 1.92. Not a one off, seems to be a fairly common price.


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