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Monotype · 27-12-2011 6:45pm

Leave them alone SH; they're sound.

ShadowHearth · 27-12-2011 7:05pm

Monotype wrote: »

Leave them alone SH; they're sound.

Tea_Bag · 28-12-2011 3:09pm

slightly off topic in a thread that should be titled to anything but,

my god the 2500K is a beast. I played AC:R and BF3 for a few hours the other day, and after quitting, I wondered why the fans didn't go quiet again. turns out I had forgotten to end my prime 95 torture test from earlier that morning. even though I was under 100% CPU usage, I still had enough headroom to game, and the games didn't stutter at all.

on my old phenom I'd be happy when I could browse the Web while I was torturing.

Serephucus · 28-12-2011 3:13pm

Reminds me of when I upgraded to an i7-950/580, from a 7300GS. I was wondering why I was only getting 40FPS in Crysis vs. the usual 45. Turns out I'd left Unreal Tournament 3 running in the background. :P

Tea_Bag · 28-12-2011 3:22pm

ah UT. probably the first game that got me into competitive fps. absolutely loved every one of them. I was never really into CS..

that said, I'm fairly **** at PC fps these days for some reason. compared to XBox anyway. dunno. how do people fly planes and choppers in BF 3 on PC ?! I'm useless! give me a little bird and an XBox controller and ill dominate a map with mvp and capture flags, but a mouse? crash burn kill whole squad.

Brian · 28-12-2011 4:14pm

autoaiming scrub

nesf · 28-12-2011 7:11pm

Tea_Bag wrote: »

slightly off topic in a thread that should be titled to anything but,

my god the 2500K is a beast. I played AC:R and BF3 for a few hours the other day, and after quitting, I wondered why the fans didn't go quiet again. turns out I had forgotten to end my prime 95 torture test from earlier that morning. even though I was under 100% CPU usage, I still had enough headroom to game, and the games didn't stutter at all.

on my old phenom I'd be happy when I could browse the Web while I was torturing.

Yeah I had the same thing happen to me with Skyrim with video encoding running in the background, I was wondering why my framerate was lower than normal. Though I'm finding SWTOR to push my CPU hard actually, GPUs don't get that much of a workout but I'm seeing quite high CPU temps (higher than I get with Handbrake!), so it's odd. Probably the framerate I'm playing with though combined with general MMO CPU heaviness.

ShadowHearth · 28-12-2011 8:57pm

nesf wrote: »

Yeah I had the same thing happen to me with Skyrim with video encoding running in the background, I was wondering why my framerate was lower than normal. Though I'm finding SWTOR to push my CPU hard actually, GPUs don't get that much of a workout but I'm seeing quite high CPU temps (higher than I get with Handbrake!), so it's odd. Probably the framerate I'm playing with though combined with general MMO CPU heaviness.

i got swtor today too. what ya think of it?

funny enough i find it more of an SP game then mmorpg. i just go to empty vent channel so i dont get bothering from others playing it lol. plus you need to listen quests.

so far i am level 9 imperial agent. dunno if i like it though...

Headshot · 28-12-2011 9:21pm

Any good online sites for computer tech reviews

(thinking of getting a new case

)

Serephucus · 28-12-2011 9:27pm

Anandtech, HardOCP, Guru3D, OverclockersClub, Hardware Canucks, Legit Reviews, Hardware Heaven, Bit-Tech, Hardware Secrets, BJorn3D....

What case are you thinking of?

Headshot · 28-12-2011 9:32pm

Serephucus wrote: »

Anandtech, HardOCP, Guru3D, OverclockersClub, Hardware Canucks, Legit Reviews, Hardware Heaven, Bit-Tech, Hardware Secrets, BJorn3D....

What case are you thinking of?

idk

I may not get even another case, im just bored and I like to look at fancy cases :pac:

iv the Fractal Design Define R3. Does a fine job but I dont get that wow effect, like I use too

Serephucus · 28-12-2011 9:36pm

Would you like an ATCS 840? I might be interested in the R3. :P

Sort of in the same boat: nothing at all wrong with it, but... I'm in the mood for a new look.

Headshot · 28-12-2011 9:44pm

Serephucus wrote: »

Would you like an ATCS 840? I might be interested in the R3. :P

Sort of in the same boat: nothing at all wrong with it, but... I'm in the mood for a new look.

Looks a good case you have there mate judging by the reviews but idk I think ill stick with what I have at the moment and wait for somthing cool and unique to pop up

Im bored of the same old style cases

Serephucus · 28-12-2011 9:50pm

I've my eye on the P280 from Antec myself. As my WC stuff is external now, I don't need the huge mother of a case, so I've been thinking of something smaller. It's very much in the "want" category though (vs. "need"), as I have stuff much higher up on the list that needs getting first (like a few more hard drives, for instance).

RE: Unique cases - Antec Skeleton!

Headshot · 28-12-2011 9:59pm

Serephucus wrote: »

I've my eye on the P280 from Antec myself. As my WC stuff is external now, I don't need the huge mother of a case, so I've been thinking of something smaller. It's very much in the "want" category though (vs. "need"), as I have stuff much higher up on the list that needs getting first (like a few more hard drives, for instance).

RE: Unique cases - Antec Skeleton!

Fractual should sue antec for that copyright lol

you werent joking about unique :pac: but its a bit to far out there for me

Burgo · 28-12-2011 10:00pm

Serephucus wrote: »

I've my eye on the P280 from Antec myself. As my WC stuff is external now, I don't need the huge mother of a case, so I've been thinking of something smaller. It's very much in the "want" category though (vs. "need"), as I have stuff much higher up on the list that needs getting first (like a few more hard drives, for instance).

RE: Unique cases - Antec Skeleton!

Lian li have a few unique cases, like the spider mitx one and the PC- U6.

Baza210 wrote: »

I have AD700s which I tested with a FiiO E7 - there was an improvement, but it wasn't enormous.

Have my Ad700's a few years now, still absolutely love them to bits.

Tea_Bag · 29-12-2011 12:09am

Headshot wrote: »

Fractual should sue antec for that copyright lol

you werent joking about unique :pac: but its a bit to far out there for me

headshot, at this rate im actually buying everything you sell, but anyway, if you plan on putting that R3 up for sale, left me know. I'm looking for a quiet case for my server. got a storm scout currently but its not sound insulated and the CPU heatsink is loud enough for me to notice it...

Headshot · 29-12-2011 12:12am

Tea_Bag wrote: »

headshot, at this rate im actually buying everything you sell, but anyway, if you plan on putting that R3 up for sale, left me know. I'm looking for a quiet case for my server. got a storm scout currently but its not sound insulated and the CPU heatsink is loud enough for me to notice it...

lol

Ill sell ya the kitchen sink if ya want it ?

ShadowHearth · 29-12-2011 12:13am

corsair 500R like a boss!

Tea_Bag · 29-12-2011 12:37am

Headshot wrote: »

lol

Ill sell ya the kitchen sink if ya want it ?

and ill but it if you sell it.

Monotype · 29-12-2011 1:18am

Serephucus wrote: »

RE: Unique cases - Antec Skeleton!

LOL, that's the one I was just thinking of when unique was mentioned. The m-ITX version of it is kinda nice.

What about the Bitfenix Colossus (venom edition)? It's... erm... bright and shiny. When I saw it first I thought it was a bit WTF, but I think it could be nice. Still regular case shaped though.

nesf · 29-12-2011 1:39am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i got swtor today too. what ya think of it?

I like it well enough. It is quite single player in feeling but I don't mind that when levelling since I end up levelling solo a lot because of the weird hours I play due to insomnia.

ShadowHearth · 29-12-2011 2:24am

nesf wrote: »

I like it well enough. It is quite single player in feeling but I don't mind that when levelling since I end up levelling solo a lot because of the weird hours I play due to insomnia.

i got bit more in to it. i have to agree with total biscuit - they just needed to make it single player game...

its still a good mmorpg, but i enjoy more of solo questing then doing something in group. thanks got for companion system!

nesf · 29-12-2011 2:32am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i got bit more in to it. i have to agree with total biscuit - they just needed to make it single player game...

its still a good mmorpg, but i enjoy more of solo questing then doing something in group. thanks got for companion system!

That'll change when you hit the endgame and have a stable group of people to do group stuff with. This will decide whether you like group stuff or not.

Really don't judge an MMO by PuGing.

ShadowHearth · 29-12-2011 2:53am

nesf wrote: »

That'll change when you hit the endgame and have a stable group of people to do group stuff with. This will decide whether you like group stuff or not.

Really don't judge an MMO by PuGing.

ah, i have a very big WOW experience, so i know mmorpgs way of doing "it"

all my friends on old republic, theres already +10 of us, so we will see how it will go.

i did a pug of that first instance ( talos? ) and it was prety damn fun. there were 3 of us + companion.

i will do a thing that i newer do in mmorpgs... i am going for healer with empire agent. sniper one just not my cup of tea...

unfortunatly all the lads have waaaaaay higher levels then me as i started only today.

i just wonder one thing now: will i be playing this when diablo 3 comes out...

Trevor451 · 29-12-2011 4:15am

Guys do you reckon skyrim should be playable on ultra at 1080p on a 6950 paired with a phenom x6 1090T?

Reason I ask this is because I bought the game the other day and I am getting massive fps dropwhen I turn the camera backwards suddenly. When I change the graphics settings to the high the game is playable though.

One of my friends recently upgraded to a i5 2500k system (with a 6850) and he is able to run it perfectly on ultra at 1080p. Would my phenom x6 be bottlenecking my card?

nesf · 29-12-2011 4:31am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i just wonder one thing now: will i be playing this when diablo 3 comes out...

I don't know, I always take breaks from MMOs for different games at different points, usually just doing enough stuff in the MMO to raid twice a week or whatever.

nesf · 29-12-2011 4:32am

Trevor451 wrote: »

Guys do you reckon skyrim should be playable on ultra at 1080p on a 6950 paired with a phenom x6 1090T?

Reason I ask this is because I bought the game the other day and I am getting massive fps dropwhen I turn the camera backwards suddenly. When I change the graphics settings to the high the game is playable though.

One of my friends recently upgraded to a i5 2500k system (with a 6850) and he is able to run it perfectly on ultra at 1080p. Would my phenom x6 be bottlenecking my card?

Skyrim is extremely hard on the CPU. To improve your framerate turn off shadows completely. Or get a better CPU. Turning off shadows is way cheaper though.

Also make sure you're using the 12.1 preview drivers not the 11.12 drivers.

Burgo · 29-12-2011 10:56am

nesf wrote: »

Skyrim is extremely hard on the CPU. To improve your framerate turn off shadows completely. Or get a better CPU. Turning off shadows is way cheaper though.

Also make sure you're using the 12.1 preview drivers not the 11.12 drivers.

is 12.1 really that much better for skyrim? I've heard it absolutely destroys fps in Bf3, but i guesss once you start skyrim nothing else matters :P

nesf · 29-12-2011 11:00am

Burgo wrote: »

is 12.1 really that much better for skyrim? I've heard it absolutely destroys fps in Bf3, but i guesss once you start skyrim nothing else matters :P

12.1 has the Skyrim improvements, the last 11.x driver doesn't. If you're going Crossfire you need 12.1, 11.12 just doesn't have any of the performance improvements that the betas of 11.11 had. It's a very stable driver but it's sub-optimal for many new games.

Roll on 12.2 and hopefully some SWTOR improvements since it's my new poison since my Skyrim savegames got corrupted.

Solitaire · 29-12-2011 2:32pm

Y U NO create a dozen backup saves at various points and hide them all around your HDD?!? You should know the games TES likes to play by now!

Brian · 29-12-2011 4:56pm

All I play is TF2, Quake Live and Tribes. TF2 is actually fairly high demand on CPU

nesf · 30-12-2011 12:15am

Solitaire wrote: »

Y U NO create a dozen backup saves at various points and hide them all around your HDD?!? You should know the games TES likes to play by now!

I was foolish and didn't think it could happen over a short time span. Or in other words I was lazy about setting backups up on an install that was just over 2 weeks old.

It's all backed up now though.

Solitaire · 30-12-2011 2:50am

Baza210 wrote: »

All I play is TF2, Quake Live and Tribes. TF2 is actually fairly high demand on CPU

TF2 isn't that bad; being Source its simply very good at putting any spare power left hanging around on cores to good use

Jsmurff · 30-12-2011 5:51pm

hey lads sorry to but in on your conversation

but Iam in desperate need of a replacement 17.1" lcd screen for a HP Compaq pressario (I beleive thats the model) Do ye have a trading forum where I can place a wanted add for one? I ask as I cant afford a new one and would like to try and pick up a second hand one or cheap laptop that I can transfer the harddrive ram and cpu into

appologies if this is inepropriate

Brian · 30-12-2011 6:04pm

Solitaire wrote: »

TF2 isn't that bad; being Source its simply very good at putting any spare power left hanging around on cores to good use

Solitaire · 30-12-2011 7:06pm

And this is the reason Valve are awesome

FlyingIrishMan · 31-12-2011 4:23am

Okay quick question to post here and save me from opening a new thread.
Is it bad to leave my PC on all the time? Its pretty much on all the time, I have a slow download speed so I often leave things downloading over night, its been on for 48hrs straight sometimes. I check the temps quite often and its usually around 30degrees so thats not too bad.

Also, anyone know if I will run up much of an ESB Bill leaving it on this much?
I have a 550W PSU, I know it doesn't use the full 550W but hypothetically lets say it does, how much would it cost me to leave it on 24hrs straight?
Thanks for any help.

PseudoFamous · 31-12-2011 4:32am

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Also, anyone know if I will run up much of an ESB Bill leaving it on this much?
I have a 550W PSU, I know it doesn't use the full 550W but hypothetically lets say it does, how much would it cost me to leave it on 24hrs straight?
Thanks for any help.

€2.40 or so.
That's fairly rough, but a kWh price of 18c gives me that result.

Brian · 31-12-2011 10:23am

At idle you would be using far far less than 550 W. Probably less than 100 W.

nesf · 31-12-2011 10:36am

Baza210 wrote: »

At idle you would be using far far less than 550 W. Probably less than 100 W.

Depends on gear, but should be less than 100W if the display is asleep. With display awake it'll be closer to 200W if not above that. Depends hugely on processor and GPU though. Some don't scale down well when not being used much.

Bonesy. · 31-12-2011 2:25pm

Is there/What is the difference between the i5-2500k LGA 1155 6MB (Dabs) and the i5-2500 LGA 1155 6MB (Hardwareversand) apart from 30 euro?

Serephucus · 31-12-2011 2:31pm

The non-K 2500 doesn't allow you to overclock. For the sake of €30, I'd be getting the K version all the time. Can't see a reason not to, really.

FlyingIrishMan · 31-12-2011 2:38pm

Bonesy. wrote: »

Is there/What is the difference between the i5-2500k LGA 1155 6MB (Dabs) and the i5-2500 LGA 1155 6MB (Hardwareversand) apart from 30 euro?

Hardwareversand also sell the K version too.

Monotype · 31-12-2011 2:51pm

You also need a P67 or Z68 chipset motherboard to overclock them.
H61 and H67 won't overclock.

Edit: It's €18 cheaper on komplett than dabs. Price will be going up tomorrow with the VAT increase.
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/21_CPU/01_INT1155/productdetails/20070433/Intel_Core_i5_2500K_3_3GHz_6MB_S1155/BX80623I52500K/default.aspx

Bonesy. · 31-12-2011 4:46pm

Monotype wrote: »

You also need a P67 or Z68 chipset motherboard to overclock them.
H61 and H67 won't overclock.

Edit: It's €18 cheaper on komplett than dabs. Price will be going up tomorrow with the VAT increase.
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/21_CPU/01_INT1155/productdetails/20070433/Intel_Core_i5_2500K_3_3GHz_6MB_S1155/BX80623I52500K/default.aspx

Would this http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43133&agid=1601 be compatible with Vista?

duffman85 · 31-12-2011 5:11pm

Yes it's vista compatible - see operating system at the very bottom: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Pro3

why would you inflict Vista on yourself though?

Bonesy. · 31-12-2011 5:26pm

duffman85 wrote: »

Yes it's vista compatible - see operating system at the very bottom: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Pro3

why would you inflict Vista on yourself though?

I know Vista is BRUTAL. But my mate works with computers and he has spare Vista Ultimate product keys/ liscences? But no spare 7's at the moment because it's quite new, but I will definately be shortly upgrading to 7

ShadowHearth · 31-12-2011 5:45pm

any gossips on when windows 8 will be out?

Bonesy. · 31-12-2011 6:08pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

any gossips on when windows 8 will be out?

Wiki says sometime around 2012, not sure when exactly though, Beta is out in Febuary.

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