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Winter FI Charts

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Joe B would be yelling "I told you so" if this happened, way way out in FI btw

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    Lads the charts are just amazing. Constant upgrades. Loads of possible snow events mainly in the north/ east of Ireland but could happen anywhere.

    Over here in the UK i put out the sledges for sale(£6.99) around 2:30pm and we sold at least 15-20 in 3 hours.

    Its freezing over here and we're on the coast in Dorset. There could even be a significant event next week in the south with a storm possibly brewing off the Iberian Peninsula which with the cold pool over the UK could leave a dumping of over a foot if it came off.

    Check out the charts anyway for 48 hours.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    Sorry about the posts on england i know im just being selfish but... forecast from today is for half a metre to be accumulated by December 1st on my apartment!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    The storm is modeled more southerly on the latest GFS

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    Other models have significantly upgraded the snow potential for Tuesday PM/Wednesday though. This event has the potential to be significant for Ireland in terms of snowfall if the models continue this way. At present, most point to a significant snow event for Ireland. The GFS has wobbled since last and so has ECM to a lesser extent. Tomorrow's runs will be interesting

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    That CMC one would be nice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Talk of FI has gone quite, umm is that because the Atlantic looks to win out after Friday?

    Hopefully that will change for the better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Villain wrote: »
    Talk of FI has gone quite, umm is that because the Atlantic looks to win out after Friday?

    Hopefully that will change for the better


    Its because we dont need FI when there are better charts for the next 48 hours!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    after friday of this week things the 'severe' cold does break down in most model runs. after that it becomes marginal at best.

    This may change again tomorrow as you know


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    Looks like possibly a lot of people could see snow this Wednesday on the Pub run.

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    There ya go Villain !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    And also at the very end of FI.....

    This storm could bring widespread heavy snow. Dunno though could be very marginal with those uppers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭glimmerman123


    I just listened to the BBC weekly update. The said that the low pressure to the south is pushing eastwards not northwards so that seems to rule out the potential for heavy snow for Ireland next Tuesday and Wednesday.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    And also at the very end of FI.....

    This storm could bring widespread heavy snow. Dunno though could be very marginal with those uppers

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    well hopefully the cold air being entrenched over us for so long would work in our favour. with a residual pool of cold air it could just tip the balance in our favour.
    well, of course that chart could be completely different come that day. it would be much better though if we saw systems tracking to the south of Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Umm FI not looking too good at present


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Windy in a while??? Although its so far deep into FI, but it could happen . . .:rolleyes:

    Edit: It just updated to the 12z and well . . the storm vanished . .:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Could be signs of the winter storm MT has alluded to in his daily forecasts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


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    Hmmm . . .:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    I wanted to be realistic and wait until December ;)
    very nice to look at and dream about, but we all know it'll be watered down closer to the time:(
    Yes that's true. No doubt the cracking FI ecm charts will be diluted in future outputs too. We saw this happen a lot last year.
    So with the fairly warm seas temperatures, it's going to be difficult to get snow at lower levels here, unless deeper cold makes its way towards us
    The 12Z ECM run is fantastic for this time of year, its very early in the season for a setup like that, thats why its so exciting. No point looking at the exact details of the charts deep in FI because they are going to change one way or the other.
    I agree. Which is why I was sounding a cautionary note for those who maybe don't follow the models that these charts, while exciting for the time of year, are always likely to change to a less favourable outcome. So people won't be needlessly getting their hopes up for widespread snow at lower levels just yet.
    Have a look at the precip charts on that control run between about 216 and 300. :pac:

    Its pure fiction but nice to look at.



    The beauty of hindsight . . .:D:D:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


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    " 1 ticket to the biggest rollercoaster ever please " ... :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    The problem is that high pressure, could push west and land itself right over us and the uk and will be very hard to shift


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    The problem is that high pressure, could push west and land itself right over us and the uk and will be very hard to shift


    I hav a feeling it will shift down and plop itself over belgium/austria... but ye, we will hav to wait and see!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    The beauty of hindsight . . .:D:D:pac:

    :pac: yes. general hindsight has never lost a war!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    RELOAD YOUR WEAPON SIR!!!!!

    I remain in good belief of a second coming.
    For the ammunition is in plenty store and the troops have only to realign their attack upon our great nation. Let the Battle commence!!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭Saganist


    Iancar29 wrote: »
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    " 1 ticket to the biggest rollercoaster ever please " ... :)

    Thats some chart. :eek::eek:

    And Im not even sure I know how to read it... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Saganist wrote: »
    Thats some chart. :eek::eek:

    And Im not even sure I know how to read it... :D

    bright colours . . .. :D

    At least thats the easiest interpretation . . .:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


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    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    GFS still really wants to bring back that Greenland high in about 12 days, we seriously could be in for a re-load. I'm still not sure though, the 'road' up North seems a lot less open, there are more shortwaves/instability so it would be harder for the high to push up North. We shall see...very interesting model watching these days.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    not bad

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow....

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    Is this the winter storm M.T was talking about, if so its strange for the models to pick up something like this so far out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Is this the winter storm M.T was talking about, if so its strange for the models to pick up something like this so far out.


    Yep this is it, there definitely will be a lot of change over the next coming days but ye, its there thats the main thing.

    SHould we start a warning thread soon, not for the snow lovers ( that shouldnt go up till the week of the event ) , but just to warn people it could happen and to stock up while the " thaw" settles in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Iancar29 wrote: »
    Yep this is it, there definitely will be a lot of stychange over the next coming days but ye, its there thats the main thing.

    SHould we start a warning thread soon, not for the snow lovers ( that shouldnt go up till the week of the event ) , but just to warn people it could happen and to stock up while the " thaw" settles in?

    Might be a good idea. Suppose its up the mods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Iancar29 wrote: »
    Yep this is it, there definitely will be a lot of change over the next coming days but ye, its there thats the main thing.

    SHould we start a warning thread soon, not for the snow lovers ( that shouldnt go up till the week of the event ) , but just to warn people it could happen and to stock up while the " thaw" settles in?

    surely it's far too early yet? not doubting MT's prediction but it is well into the future and no need to cause to undue panic just yet.

    i should work for met eireann!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Timistry


    :eek: that chart is just weather porn! If that even remotely came to pass it would be a legendary event and the south would definetely get a good dumping of snow for once. Pity its in FI though!:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Timistry wrote: »
    Pity its in FI though!:rolleyes:

    Sorry but what's FI? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    Timistry wrote: »
    :eek: that chart is just weather porn! If that even remotely came to pass it would be a legendary event and the south would definetely get a good dumping of snow for once. Pity its in FI though!:rolleyes:

    I'd put my faith in MT more than I would in an FI chart, but when the two start to coincide, then hey who knows, 'legendary' may just come to pass!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭roryc1


    I would say hold off on a warning tread just now, yes all the signs are there for another cold spell from middle to end of next week, but I would be worried about the timing of any severe weather event for Ireland as these things have a habit of been pushed back as we get closer to reliable time frame,
    But the models are showing some amazing stuff all right


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭sean555


    FI = Fantasy Island


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    bbam wrote: »
    Sorry but what's FI? :o

    Fantasy Island. Ay charts that are outside of the reliable timeframe and therefore very, very unlikely to pan out exactly as shown.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


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    Bit of a downgrade in the 6z for the storm . . :rolleyes: but 850 temps still low . . .i think there will be a massive fluctuation in every run . .:P


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    ECM0-192.GIF?07-12

    ECM has -8 850 temps for as early as next wednesday, but the GFS isn't giving that until 5 days later . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    What i have learnt in the last few weeks while mainly watching accuweather forecasts is that they always state that when the Jet stream starts to make a big dip , then a storm is likely to form .
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    Its kinda broken up but ye , theres one there alright.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    at this stage I want all those FI Charts to so pear shaped! We've had nearly 2 weeks of snow now and last thing we want is to be snow bound before chistmas!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Gonzo wrote: »
    at this stage I want all those FI Charts to so pear shaped! We've had nearly 2 weeks of snow now and last thing we want is to be snow bound before chistmas!


    Sorry, but theres nothing better than a white christmas! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Gonzo wrote: »
    at this stage I want all those FI Charts to so pear shaped! We've had nearly 2 weeks of snow now and last thing we want is to be snow bound before chistmas!

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭odyboody


    try telling that to the kids when santa hasnt been able to get any presents:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    odyboody wrote: »
    try telling that to the kids when santa hasnt been able to get any presents:(


    Eh first day of considerable thaw was 2day, and i got all my shopping done, start to finish ... so ye , NO EXCUSES about the weather ! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    yes it FI but is this MT's predicted storm

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    It's ridiculous how similar the GFS, UKMO, and ECMWF are out to 144hrs, and the ecm and gfs well past that . . .


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