2012 apocalypse

ppkpatrick · 04-04-2010 3:25am #1

2012 I mean is the world really going to end. They were wrong about 2000 are they wrong about 2012?

digme · 04-04-2010 5:04am

i don't think humans are capable of telling the future just yet,your guess is as good as anyone elses buddy lol.

murphyme2010 · 04-04-2010 1:13pm

ppkpatrick wrote: »

2012 I mean is the world really going to end. They were wrong about 2000 are they wrong about 2012?

If you are really worried look here.

or do a search for debunk 2012.

Michael.

mysterious · 04-04-2010 5:34pm

2012 is the height of cosmis energy consciousness bombarding our planet. THere is a lot of dis info on 2012. The powers that be are giving you two reality hypothesis doomsday and new age world order government.

This propaganda is just a distraction to what's really happening. We are asked to be aware of our fears and face them, and learn to be more self aware and responsible to the reality we are moving into. This shift is waking us all up. It's happening now and there is no one going to escape it.

The people who try to escape or self delude themselves into thinking nothing is happening or avoiding the real awareness and truth of who we are, will just be pushed off this planet through all the catylcisms. Through this global trauma people been suggestible to giving into all power factions that rule the planet. LIke 9/11. People were asleep to consciousness and this woke us up, but at the same time we are stil falling for the lies for the last 10 years. The majority of the people are so scared they would rather have their freedoms stripped and totally give themselves into the system of control rather than take full responsibility for thier own lives. Its' the fear of betrayal, mistrust, dis loyality and belittlement the populations of the world just don't want to face up too in our governments. The reality is, we are either going to face up to it, or we just fall behind.

2009 -2010 has already seen massive shifts. People will have kundalini awakenings also all the way to 2012. The people will find the shift hard to ignore. Many upheavals and past feelings will come up, because you have bottled them in or repressed them. This is the time to let them go the past once the healing takes place. The lies are coming out. The corruption is coming out. The darkness is coming out. The pimple has reached its swell and has bursted. 2012 is about mass awakening and change. The healing of this world is already happening. Things will get worse before it gets better and it will continue to be chaotic way up till 2012.

2012 is just very largely missunderstood.

We are becoming aware that we are creating reality and realising that we always were co creating this world. Since the power is now radically shifting from the illuiminati back to the masses. The illuminati continue to try hold as much grip over society as they can by creating tightened security and a big brother society whereby people are just droned by the system.

It's the end of the world as we know it, but there is no asteroid or planet slamming into our planet.

thecommander · 04-04-2010 5:37pm

mysterious wrote: »

It's the end of the world as we know it, but there is no asteroid or planet slamming into our planet.

So what is going to happen? In real terms, not explained in riddles.

mysterious · 04-04-2010 5:45pm

thecommander wrote: »

So what is going to happen? In real terms, not explained in riddles.

To be really honest, quite literally anything you want. The system is completely open and exposed now. Try not to think in black - white, they vs we, iran vs USA. It's really totally us now. 2012 is not exactly straight forward as total doomsday or complete enlightement.

If you look back at history I'm sure you will agree the powers of be and previous empires controled and
shaped the world. Thousands of years they knew about 2012. Not because of the prophecy but the timelines all colerate to the Atlantis fall exactly 12,000 to 13,000 years ago. This was the age of leo. The Zodiac signs have ages to mark every few thousands years that make up one galactic day. This is the way I understand it. So we are now exactly pin point in the age of Aquarius. The startlng to fact to this its exactly on the other end of the zodiac wheel. Which was Leo, the time of Atlantis. In other words civilizations were far more aware of the cosmos, consciousness and time than we are today. The empires that existed in more modern day times, knew about this. But in this knowing, they made sure the rest of humanity would be in total darkness to our true past. This time period is whats known as the dark ages. Humanity has swept through 12,000 years of time almost asleep to real cosmic consciousness.

This is the deadline for the illuminati time up. So if you can understand that, then its pretty logical to say expect the unexpected. The illuminati may have tightened everything and put the NWO in full swing, but the truth is they are really losing complete control. It pretty much explains what the Hopi's, Mayas, Egyptians and even the bible translates with the rapture. All of them have simalar translations to the end of the age or end of time, end of the last cycle.

The more control people crave, the more control they tend to loose in the end. Control, greed and power cannot sustain liveity in this new age.

I don't want you to think they I know the defanite answers. I like we to know the answer to what will happen in the next two years. Most of us will agree its going to get really ugly. USA will still push for WW3. So it's really just making us realise that we must focus on ourselves and our own growth. We cannot stop others from creating hell on this planet, but we can certainly look to ourselves and each other to make heavan on earth.

thecommander · 04-04-2010 6:21pm

mysterious wrote: »

To be really honest, quite literally anything you want. The system is completely open and exposed now. Try not to think in black - white, they vs we, iran vs USA. It's really totally us now. 2012 is not exactly straight forward as total doomsday or complete enlightement.

If you look back at history I'm sure you will agree the powers of be and previous empires controled and
shaped the world. Thousands of years they knew about 2012. Not because of the prophecy but the timelines all colerate to the Atlantis fall exactly 12,000 to 13,000 years ago. This was the age of leo. The Zodiac signs have ages to mark every few thousands years that make up one galactic day. This is the way I understand it. So we are now exactly pin point in the age of Aquarius. The startlng to fact to this its exactly on the other end of the zodiac wheel. Which was Leo, the time of Atlantis. In other words civilizations were far more aware of the cosmos, consciousness and time than we are today. The empires that existed in more modern day times, knew about this. But in this knowing, they made sure the rest of humanity would be in total darkness to our true past. This time period is whats known as the dark ages. Humanity has swept through 12,000 years of time almost asleep to real cosmic consciousness.

This is the deadline for the illuminati time up. So if you can understand that, then its pretty logical to say expect the unexpected. The illuminati may have tightened everything and put the NWO in full swing, but the truth is they are really losing complete control. It pretty much explains what the Hopi's, Mayas, Egyptians and even the bible translates with the rapture. All of them have simalar translations to the end of the age or end of time, end of the last cycle.

The more control people crave, the more control they tend to loose in the end. Control, greed and power cannot sustain liveity in this new age.

I don't want you to think they I know the defanite answers. I like we to know the answer to what will happen in the next two years. Most of us will agree its going to get really ugly. USA will still push for WW3. So it's really just making us realise that we must focus on ourselves and our own growth. We cannot stop others from creating hell on this planet, but we can certainly look to ourselves and each other to make heavan on earth.

So pretty much the same as went on in 1999, or 2003, or 1972. Nothing special really.

studiorat · 04-04-2010 6:45pm

mysterious wrote: »

To be really honest, quite literally anything you want. The system is completely open and exposed now. Try not to think in black - white, they vs we, iran vs USA. It's really totally us now. 2012 is not exactly straight forward as total doomsday or complete enlightement.

That narrows it down a bit.

Y2K anyone?

mysterious · 04-04-2010 7:30pm

The powers of be want the Y2K craze:rolleyes: Studiorat you always assume or take peoples views out of context, oh gee what a surprise. Your always been reminded of this.

I made the point, of what the powers of be want, they want a Y2K event craze. The first one, was done, to see how people would react to a fake controlled event. The world isn't going to end in 2012.

Maybe you should re read what I had posted.:) You might actually understand something what was put forward.

mysterious · 04-04-2010 7:34pm

thecommander wrote: »

So pretty much the same as went on in 1999, or 2003, or 1972. Nothing special really.

Lol, god you must sit around and wait for things to happen by themselves. Proves you didn't read my post. I mean if you don't want to read or understand what I posted, you don't have to reply. It's simple really. But these 5 word lners seems obvious to me in a way that is misleading the actual points I have stressed. But however.

You seem to have missed the fact, that the whole shift is already happening, and has been a shifting and moving for the last 12,000 years to its full galactic cycle.

Most people like yourself in my view, are just not simply aware of things on consciousness or a cosmic level. Like so many things may happen in life to many of you, but when you don't pay attention to the obvious, you miss everything. Mnay people become so overwhelmed at the bigger picture.

We are waking up and its finally moving now.

PirateShampoo · 04-04-2010 8:21pm

So this shift will only happen to people who want to believe?

Thats conveneant.

mcmoustache · 04-04-2010 9:03pm

2012 is only a marketing project by the mainstream media. Fox want people watching the news for the latest disasters, Duracell want people to stock up on batteries, Ballygowan want to sell lots of bottled water and John West wants people buying tuna. It's similar to the Y2K problem except for Y2K being a real problem. The trick, this time is to make sure not to be too specific about what will happen. Saying things like "Planes will fall from the sky" and "An asteroid will hit" will only make it more difficult for the next End Of The World, scheduled for 2015 and the one after that in 2020. Instead, weasel words, like "Age of Aquarious" and "New Conciousness" are to be bandied about so that in January 2013, when nothing happens, the new-age can all claim that something, in fact, did. In the meantime, don't forget to stock up on batteries, water and tuna and stay tuned to Xox News for the latest updates.

ClearlyEnlight · 07-04-2010 5:51pm

people 9-11 activated the preparation stage for the New World Order, from 9/11/01 to 12/21/2012 will be 11 years and 101 days which is the prime occult number of 11:11

12/21/2012 = 11 and then the time of the solecist is 11:11 which the power number of 33

2012 is the activation key to begin the New World Order, and for the Occult it is an end of an era and the beginning to a new era.

But they are deceiving and brainwashing humanity with a certain type of propaganda.
You can learn more about the Occult numerology.

Y2K was just a decoy to slip into the minds of certain people who refuse to investigate the meaning behind what the propaganda is teaching.

You can also look at this site http://2012fuke.com, the two sites are connected.

RoboClam · 07-04-2010 7:04pm

ClearlyEnlight wrote: »

people 9-11 activated the preparation stage for the New World Order, from 9/11/01 to 12/21/2012 will be 11 years and 101 days which is the prime occult number of 11:11

Looks more like 11101 to me.

Torakx · 07-04-2010 8:17pm

Add the last 2 digits together

RoboClam · 07-04-2010 8:57pm

Speaking of occult numbers, there's something that I've been itching to post for the past week.

Coincidence?

Originally posted by 6th too!

Lab_Mouse · 07-04-2010 9:15pm

I noticed that the other day...weird are what.Glad I dont believe in god

Bazza085 · 08-04-2010 12:33am

Do you wanna hear something funny...The real "number of the beast'' is 616 and NOT 666 as is commonly perceived. Look it up.

humanji · 08-04-2010 10:34am

ClearlyEnlight wrote: »

people 9-11 activated the preparation stage for the New World Order, from 9/11/01 to 12/21/2012 will be 11 years and 101 days which is the prime occult number of 11:11

12/21/2012 = 11 and then the time of the solecist is 11:11 which the power number of 33

2012 is the activation key to begin the New World Order, and for the Occult it is an end of an era and the beginning to a new era.

But they are deceiving and brainwashing humanity with a certain type of propaganda.
You can learn more about the Occult numerology.

Y2K was just a decoy to slip into the minds of certain people who refuse to investigate the meaning behind what the propaganda is teaching.

You can also look at this site http://2012fuke.com, the two sites are connected.

Your post is number 13 in this thread. 13 is a sacred occult number.

You posted at 18:51. 6 is a sacred number at apparently it's triplication is even more sacred (ie 18). And 5+1 = 6.

You joined on 04/2010. 0+4+2+0+1+0 = 7, another sacred number. And doubling that gives you 14, ie the number of letters in your username.

So is numerology a load of bollix that can be used to prove absolutely anything, or are you somehow involved in the NWO?

studiorat · 08-04-2010 10:47am

mysterious wrote: »

The powers of be want the Y2K craze:rolleyes: Studiorat you always assume or take peoples views out of context, oh gee what a surprise. Your always been reminded of this.

I made the point, of what the powers of be want, they want a Y2K event craze. The first one, was done, to see how people would react to a fake controlled event. The world isn't going to end in 2012.

Maybe you should re read what I had posted.:) You might actually understand something what was put forward.

I could spend a lifetime reading and re-reading your posts and they still wouldn't make an ounce of sense.

It seems to me that you are quite happy to aid the "powers of be" in promoting their craze.

Emme · 08-04-2010 10:55am

And if the world doesn't end in 2012 are people going to start worrying about 2016, 2020 or some other sexy looking year?

digme · 08-04-2010 11:01am

the planet will explode as it's made of semtex...............

Torakx · 08-04-2010 12:43pm

Does anyone kow for sure if there will be a planetary alignment around 2012?
I had that this was going to cause the poles to shift.
So far thats the only natural disaster possible that i could see.

studiorat · 08-04-2010 12:46pm

Torakx wrote: »

Does anyone kow for sure if there will be a planetary alignment around 2012?
I had that this was going to cause the poles to shift.
So far thats the only natural disaster possible that i could see.

Alignment of what Tor? Or should I say alingment with what.

mysterious · 15-04-2010 2:57pm

studiorat wrote: »

I could spend a lifetime reading and re-reading your posts and they still wouldn't make an ounce of sense.

It seems to me that you are quite happy to aid the "powers of be" in promoting their craze.

Do you think I would give a minute to try explain something to you with your hostility towards others, Why do you come here?

Oh and you mis quoted me, (how surprising) so yeah I've nothing to say on that.;) But I will say this much. Most understand my views on 2012. I understand what 2012 is about, anyone that wants to understand what 2012 is about, will find out themselves. We however will do just fine figuring it out ourselves. If you can't communicate on this subject or seem to connect with others on this topic, Thats your own problem to deal with

Oh and if you have a problem reading my post, you don't have to read them.

mysterious · 15-04-2010 3:03pm

humanji wrote: »

Your post is number 13 in this thread. 13 is a sacred occult number.

You posted at 18:51. 6 is a sacred number at apparently it's triplication is even more sacred (ie 18). And 5+1 = 6.

You joined on 04/2010. 0+4+2+0+1+0 = 7, another sacred number. And doubling that gives you 14, ie the number of letters in your username.

So is numerology a load of bollix that can be used to prove absolutely anything, or are you somehow involved in the NWO?

You may not understand the importance of numbers or not believe in it and why othesr use it to understand sychronity and what not, but that's ok. If we understand it, that's also ok too.

A lot of open minded people use it and it works spot on. Infact numerology was used by the ancients going back before the flood times and then Atlantean times.

Numbers don't need to prove anything, its a calculation whatever the figure is, is.

PirateShampoo · 15-04-2010 3:07pm

mysterious wrote: »

A lot of open minded people use it and it works spot on. Infact numerology was used by the ancients going back before the flood times and then Atlantean times.

I really think you need to cut down on the number of Stargate: Atlantis episodes that your watching.

mysterious · 15-04-2010 3:13pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I really think you need to cut down on the number of Stargate: Atlantis episodes that your watching.

You don't tell me to do anything. I don't watch T.V, thats all conditioning;)

Put it on T.V, drill it in the subconscious, so when you hear me talking about reality, your subconscious sends out the memory, that "oh thats on T.V"

Don't be silly It's not real because I seen it on T.V. "lots of laughter follows"

I don't watch T.V thank god. When your out in the real world you begin to realise what the world is really about. Not on a T.V set.
:rolleyes:

Chema · 15-04-2010 3:16pm

I thought this movie was overrated but in the end I like it!

mysterious · 15-04-2010 3:25pm

Chema wrote: »

I thought this movie was overrated but in the end I like it!

We are not really discussing the movie. The movie is dis info to cover the truth.

Oh and good to see you here, I see it's your first post and first post on this thread. I could of missed that, but welcome to the forum.;):)

ocokev · 15-04-2010 3:29pm

2012 isnt that when the next general election is going to be and FF loose power, surly a signal from the Gods that the end is nigh.

mysterious · 15-04-2010 3:33pm

ocokev wrote: »

2012 isnt that when the next general election is going to be and FF loose power, surly a signal from the Gods that the end is nigh.

All government will lose total power by then.;):D

They are ****ting concrete blocks at the minute. It'S why there is a recession and all banks are not lending money. after war, bio warfare, chemtrails, flouridated water, Big brother terrorist society, HARRP, eartbquakes and what not, the only thing left that they can keep people controlled in the easiest way's is money!....

It's not a "coincidence" this all happening. Of course the elites and government officials would never want to face up to the reality that they are losing it all,so the only thing they can do is create as much chaos and fear as they can to bestill the populations of the world and kill who they can.

It's all happening now., People will never wake up until your amost dead.

Yitzhak Rabin · 15-04-2010 6:20pm

I cannot wait until December 22nd 2012, the amount of gloating I will do will need its own forum.

mysterious · 15-04-2010 6:24pm

yekahs wrote: »

I cannot wait until December 22nd 2012, the amount of gloating I will do will need its own forum.

People who understand the date and importance of 2012 in the timelines. Know that 2012 is not something we are waiting for, it's about moving yourself through time and beyond it. It's part of the cycles, and if your aware of natures cycles you can get ahead. But funnily enough some don't want others to get ahead, by creating hysteria and dis info on 2012.

I think it would be silly to wait for 2012 and expect something to happen, when the world is ALREADY falling apart left right and centre on every level society has built up over the last 400 year since the British Empire took over the world. It seems that as we move closer to 2012 the shift in our relaity gets stronger by the day. 2012 is a deadline but more of pin point of transition where immense change takes fold on every level. it's after 2012 that we will see world so different beyond our imaginations at this point. The build up to 2012, is not like a 4 month period, or a 20 year Y2k craze. It's a galactic event that we haven't seen in 52years and this cycle is moving on with or without you.

People who are naysayers, non realists or just sit back and laugh are the ones who will lose out in the end, because the date will pass you buy and you will still wonder what 2012 was about.

RoboClam · 15-04-2010 6:31pm

yekahs wrote: »

I cannot wait until December 22nd 2012, the amount of gloating I will do will need its own forum.

Sadly, it doesn't look like you'll be able to gloat. For as mysterious said previously in response to the question "What will happen?"

mysterious wrote: »

To be really honest, quite literally anything you want.

So "quite literally" anything can happen. Everything you do that day will be because of 2012. Take a shower? Eat dinner? Go for a walk? Yep, that's 2012 in action right there.

PirateShampoo · 15-04-2010 6:32pm

Im loving how the 2012 believers keep moving the goal posts on this thing.

Yitzhak Rabin · 15-04-2010 6:42pm

mysterious wrote: »

It's a galactic event that we haven't seen in 52years and this cycle is moving on with or without you.

What was the galactic event in 1960?

Lab_Mouse · 15-04-2010 7:03pm

yekahs wrote: »

What was the galactic event in 1960?

The first weekly shuttle trip from earth to sirius the dog star

mysterious · 15-04-2010 7:15pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Im loving how the 2012 believers keep moving the goal posts on this thing.

You don't understand what 2012 is about. 2012 didn't come before. The 52k event didn't happen until 52k years ago. There is far more powerful cosmic influnences pulling our reality together than mine and yours bubble reality of eat, work, sleep rotation.

There are much bigger cosmic rotations too. They come and they pass. Thre is no prediction. Just like a wheel turning. People are not been told the truth of 2012. We are not paying attention to ourselves, We are not paying attention to what matters. We not been aware of all the problems in the world and most of us are running as far as we can possibly go. All you did in your life is going to prop up like a pimple on your face. Everything you surpressed will come up. Every fear you bottled in will creep up. You will begin to create your reality quicker than before because thought maninfestation is becoming stronger. There are just one of many things that are now happening.

Do I have to re educate and point this out. 2012 is not Y2K. I have said this to you personally 3 times are you delberartely trying to ignore it. Y2K was created by just blantant fear, crazy ideas, computer fanatics and maybe even the government to see how the world would react. That was 2000. But the turning of the millenium did bring many changes that just went bang bang from 2000 right up to the end of this decade. People tend to forget just how turbelant these times have gotten.

But as you know it was 2001 that changed the world forever. Hey some people predicted the 9/11 false flag in New york. I'm just so glad there is stil many people who are aware of things around us on a much more universal cosmic scale and not just this bubble society rubbish.

To believe in 2012, you have to understand two deception games.

One is the doomsdays tripe
The other is the lightworker craze.

Both are deception, both are not the truth, and both will have you killed or delusioned. Why? The NWO runs both of these movements. Now you never heard a "aleged conspiracy theorist telling you that" Alot of these lightworkers and even people who are exposing the 2012 thing in a false liight or darkness are doing it delberately to get you to be distracted from yourself and your own reality and this reality now. Now you know I'm not even a conspiracy theorist:p

2012 is end time, not end of the world.

So many people just haven no idea what 2012 is about, and it hits you until you just wake up to the whole univesre and how we are playing the role of acension on this planet. This maybe to complicated to go in detail here, because I wouldn't see many people catching what 2012 is about.

The NWO controls EVERYTHING that is moving this world even the recession. The most powerful people in the world have tried to stop it and hold it as far as they did, but they cannot control and keep this world in this soceity any longer. Thats why we have chaos now.

Guys all you have to do is be aware and look around you. You don't even need to read book to cop on as to whats going on now.

Yitzhak Rabin · 15-04-2010 7:46pm

Cheers, that clears it up then. 2012 is going to be a galactic shattering event of epic proportions, combined with a conciouness awakening all over the globe, that will be so profound....that you won't even notice a difference?

mysterious · 15-04-2010 8:08pm

yekahs wrote: »

Cheers, that clears it up then. 2012 is going to be a galactic shattering event of epic proportions, combined with a conciouness awakening all over the globe, that will be so profound....that you won't even notice a difference?

Mindfulness helps.:rolleyes:

In other words you have to learn (find a way to open your mind beyond this physical reality now) It's starts with awareness. I crack up laughing when I see replies like yours. These kind of responses reminds me of when children go to school and automatically listen to authority and only jump or speak when the teacher moves. You will sit and wait for someone to tell whats going to happen and you forget you have to do something with yourself to make things happen.

Not everyone makes the bus in one go you know. Some will completely aware. Right now i had a kundalini awakening which has been going on for 3weeks. I had my first 2 last year.

When you start facing up to reality and opening your mind beyond the old reality patterns of just repetition you begin to understand the laws of attraction and how this universe works.

It doesn't happen sitting now and wating till 2012 with smoe popcorn. That is delusion. Infact you end up very dissapointed. You may not see that your been silly by doing that. But the reality is the world will move and change with or without you.

Hey, Aren't you lucky I gave you some warnings and ques. I won't tell you what 2012 is about, that is something you have to find out, if you can in some way remove the conditioning you have been brought up with, otherwise you will continue to be stuck in it.

But I will tell you this much, you will be unable to avoid this reality shift. It's already begun, So interesting why you pick and choose points and come back with a one liner to negate the points I've made.

Good going, not. lol

robtri · 15-04-2010 8:09pm

mysterious wrote: »

You don't <snip> going on now.

is it posible instead of talking in circles, you can state what you believe will happen in 2012....

what will be these universe changing events.... be specific and not dance around the question about re-educating or its not about this or its not about that....

What do you think will happen .....

mysterious · 15-04-2010 8:23pm

robtri wrote: »

is it posible instead of talking in circles, you can state what you believe will happen in 2012....

what will be these universe changing events.... be specific and not dance around the question about re-educating or its not about this or its not about that....

What do you think will happen .....

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I've said what I needed to say and that is all I will say. I will explain some thing's in the end in what will happen and what you need to be aware of. None of you are open to it on the level that some people are. Infact this site is stuck in 99...... Celtic tiger materalism bubble hasn't snapped in Irish people yet.

So I will have enough respect and allow you to find out yourself rather than me telling you every details.

Human beings and this obsessive need to want to know every detail to its spelt out to them and when you tell them everything they still roll over and go back to sleep. It's the reason you have the NWO monolithic controlled society because nobody is doing sweet feck all about their own reality and responsiblity. It doesnt matter how many times I tell you it's not going to go in. You have been brought up beleiving all sort of nonsense, from fear, religion, control, politics, entertainment and a uniform way to be to the point you know no different. When you hear something different you jump out of your skin...

It's actualy involves years of work to get to the awareness I'm at at this point. If you were tosee the end of this, you would probably say "why the hell did i come to this world"... it's that insane.

The truth is none of you are prepared, most of you will die or have multiple breakdowns if you continue to put your head in the sand and ignore what is happening now. To be really honest. Everyone is so controlled now and everyone is literally doing NOTHING to wake up and start taking responsibility for their reality the NWO will take you first before 2012 does.

Right now and up to 2012, things will get worse, and the bit you need to deal with is, what are you going to do about it between now and then. Its going to get alot worse on every scale. You will be forced to face all your karma and past so you can remove it and heal it. Everything is coming up one go, and its not just humans that is affected, the whole planet and solar system is been shifted to the new padigrim.

It's really totally up to you at this point. Believe what you want, but believe this much, your now in charge if your alive, healthy and kicking by 2012.

You will decide if you can keep up the pressure and get to the other side all new and fresh.

You know the NWO could just wipe money out for a week, can you imagine the consquences of that would be? Do you think anyone will stop them, given the control they have over you.

robtri · 15-04-2010 8:53pm

mysterious wrote: »

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So I will have enough respect and allow you to find out yourself rather than me telling you every details.

It's really totally up to you at this point. Believe what you want, but believe this much, your now in charge if your alive, healthy and kicking by 2012.

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so you cant answer a straight question....

why bother posting a response.....

you state believe what you want... considering you have said nothing, how can i believe it?????

state what you believe will happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wibbs · 15-04-2010 10:51pm

Mysterious wrote:

So I will have enough respect and allow you to find out yourself rather than me telling you every details.

Ok so then forget details. How do people find out?

You mention Atlantis a fair bit. Where do you come by the knowledge of atlantis? Plato mentions it in a story, two and half thousand years ago. That's your lot from antiquity. All others following refer to him. And depending on how you read the greek, the dates vary too. Their are other mythical lands mentioned by a fair few ancient writers, so why atlantis?

mysterious · 16-04-2010 12:28am

Wibbs wrote: »

Ok so then forget details. How do people find out?

You mention Atlantis a fair bit. Where do you come by the knowledge of atlantis? Plato mentions it in a story, two and half thousand years ago. That's your lot from antiquity. All others following refer to him. And depending on how you read the greek, the dates vary too. Their are other mythical lands mentioned by a fair few ancient writers, so why atlantis?

The world didn't begin 6000 years ago and neither did humanity. NOw if you want to believe what you believe what you learnt in school.

Then I will not debate this further with you.

PirateShampoo · 16-04-2010 8:24am

mysterious wrote: »

The world didn't begin 6000 years ago and neither did humanity. NOw if you want to believe what you believe what you learnt in school.

Then I will not debate this further with you.

I dont think anybody on this forum has ever claimed the world began 6000 years ago.

ocokev · 16-04-2010 8:49am

Its probably to do with that whole hokus pokus thing about the age of Aquarius starting on Dec 22 2012, and because the Maya calander stopped in 2012.
Its only going to be the end of one cycle and the beginning of a newer better world probably where proverty will be wiped out, there will be free love everywhere.
Maybe it will be the total downfall and dissolution of the catholic church, since it was uder Gods name and the name of the King of Spaint that the Maya were killed.
Maybe the Maya were predicting that those who invaded and ended their civilisation, will see their world disapperar as they know it in 2012, and the dawning of the age of Aquarius.

Wibbs · 16-04-2010 9:11am

mysterious wrote: »

The world didn't begin 6000 years ago and neither did humanity.

Eh as Pirateshampoo said, no one has made that claim. Humanity as a species is around in our current form for at least 150,000 years. Civilisation is at least 10,000 years.

NOw if you want to believe what you believe what you learnt in school.

Then I will not debate this further with you.

So what's your opinion? We cant have a debate if one party shuts down. I think I asked a valid question. Why Atlantis and what knowledge is there beyond the Plato reference?

beans · 16-04-2010 10:46am

Is this the situation then?

- That there are secret powers at work in the world; most likely
- That these powers use their influence to control markets, regimes, etc; again, likely
- That the rat-race society we live in keeps us distracted from noticing this* ;
- That they are using dis-info to obscure a coming event; why not?
- That this event will involve a global change in the way we think, the way we live ... ?
- That this event is part of a galactic cycle of some sort ... ?
- That mental preparation, 'ascension', and other vague undefinables play a part in this ...

I'm open to correction but eventually doesn't this line of reasoning break down to wishful thinking, subjective experience and unknowable information? There's a lot of probable truth buried in what the pro-event side says, but a lot of 'facts' that are unverifiable.

So isn't this whole debate kind of pointless? It's like shadow-boxing.

I understand what 2012 is about, anyone that wants to understand what 2012 is about, will find out themselves. We however will do just fine figuring it out ourselves. If you can't communicate on this subject:rolleyes: or seem to connect with others on this topic, Thats your own problem to deal with

Why is anyone wasting their time on this?

*This whole topic is a fantastic example what keeps our attentions from the actual things going on in the world, from what our governments may be doing.

Undergod · 16-04-2010 6:38pm

mysterious wrote: »

I made the point, of what the powers of be want, they want a Y2K event craze. The first one, was done, to see how people would react to a fake controlled event. The world isn't going to end in 2012.

The NWO are going to stage some kind of fake event to cause panic around 2012?

2012 apocalypse

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