Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

da__flash · 21-01-2010 01:40AM

delancey42 wrote: »

My next door neighbour is a retired Garda Sergeant , he was telling me today that his nephew applied to join , went through the full process of medical , interview, etc but like so many people here got nobbled by the recruitment embargo.
His nephew asked my neighbour to make some enquiries among ex-colleagues to see if he could ascertain the current plans re. any intake/s this year . My neighbour spoke to a few ''reliable'' people ' in the know ' and the general consesus was that while nobody can speak with 100% certainty it was considered '' very unlikely '' that any intake would occur in 2010.
I know that's not what a lot of you wish to hear and no doubt some of you will hear the complete opposite in the weeks and months to come !

Just my 2 cents worth :rolleyes:

at the fear of sounding like tesco.........Every little helps do:cool:

fifth · 21-01-2010 10:20AM

I've heard the same from a friend who lives next door to a Garda, there won't be any intake this year - well none open to the public at least.

I don't know this Garda or how long he's been in AGS so take that with a pinch of salt, I don't want to start any rumours but I know some people like hearing little bits of info here and there.

Geri Boyle · 21-01-2010 10:48AM

I wouldnt be too worried about being told that by people in the know, because in fairness it is the official line- no recruitment until 2011. We are just hoping the embargo will be lifted. That has to come from the minister for finance. It hasnt- yet. Maybe it will though. Things can change in a day when it comes to this process.

carlbre · 21-01-2010 11:03AM

i suppose all we can all do is wait and see, so many rumours going around nobody knows what to believe until the minister from finance comes out and says something about it.

and yes i've heard the laser eye surgery is great, i cant wait to get it done, then have to get a bit fitter and i should be ok. the only problem now is that there are going to be thousands going for a few places when there eventually is a recruitment that the chances of getting through are slimmer than ever...fingers crossed i suppose!

adrianjc20 · 21-01-2010 11:07AM

In my opinion the only people that know what is happening is the Garda commissioner, his assistants, minister for finance, and justice minister. The worst rumours going around at present are from everyday Gardai. I heard from one that recruitment will be soon, one said May, and another said next year. From what I have seen lately anything is possible.

Delancey · 22-01-2010 09:19PM

It must be a huge pain in the arse hearing so many conflicting bits of information :rolleyes:

eroo · 24-01-2010 04:35PM

Nobody has any real clue I think. I was told very recently by a Sergeant that the Govt want to extend the embargo until 2013. Who knows?

Chin up folks!

Bosco boy · 25-01-2010 08:24AM

Theres nothing like a pending general election to get recuitment going, this government will want to be able to say it has started recruiting again when they face the public otherwise the opposition will hammer them on the issue of crime, they will be hoping large numbers retire in the meantime to bring down the Garda bill. Next planned election is in 2012, I reckon by at least mid 2011 an couple of intakes will have definately taken place. Thats just my opinion.

itsallgood · 25-01-2010 11:03AM

Good point bosco, something will have to be done to try and save face and get back in favour with as may as possible....
Wouldn't pay any attention at this time to what current opr past serving Gardai have to say as its only rumours and nobody knows when things will roll again apart from Minister of Finance.

mule101 · 25-01-2010 12:54PM

hi guys you can take it that there will be no recuritment for the immediate future as there is currently and group,in the garda college, working on a new training programme to replace the exisiting one, this programme will have to be fully completed and then presentd to the comissioner Facthna Murphy for approval and then the group will have to work on setting up the structures for its implementation, some of the changes will include, canditates will have to hld a full irish driving licence, have a basic computer course done (i think its called EDL) and also have basic first aid training, canditates will now spend 42 weeks in templemore for phase 1 but will leave with Garda Powers, on phase 2 they will be supervised by a tutor for 12 weeks and then be left to fend for themselves with their unit, they will graduate on phase 3 i think unlike the current programmes where there is 5 phases, there is a new intake phase going to the college in may but this will be made up of students that hadstarted the old programme and got sick/ or into trouble etc! hope this info helps

fifth · 25-01-2010 01:01PM

Thanks mule, where did you get this info from? Interesting.

Geri Boyle · 25-01-2010 01:29PM

That is interesting alright. Can they ask us to have the ECDL and a full driving licence if it wasnt a requirement when we applied though? Im not sure.. Also, if there is that intake in May, they will obviously be on the old course then so? So would we have to wait til they completed all 5 phases before a new course could be implemented? Where did you hear this info Mule if you dont mind me asking?

podsieboy · 25-01-2010 01:38PM

very interesting i wonder where that leaves us now..as i know the panel that is there is to be kept and wont be scrapped
another point of interest for the 34 35 year olds

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2010-01-19.2102.0&s=garda+recruit

itsallgood · 25-01-2010 01:55PM

yeah, its interesting but i'd say if that hppens it wont affect those of us already within the system. They cant change the qualifications required now and kick people off the panel.....I was on to HQ the other day and was told no changes have taken place to training but then again, that was currently and maybe in future. Cant be that many people that had to drop out of the college to fill a class.......

dylmeister · 25-01-2010 03:36PM

Mule I would love to know where you got this information from and if there is an intake in may I don't think it would just consist of people who were sick or got into trouble, also would love to know has anybody else heard this information from anywhere? From the papers yesterday and today they seem to be crying out for Garda and that has to put pressure on for something to happen, chin up

Geri Boyle · 25-01-2010 04:26PM

dylmeister wrote: »

From the papers yesterday and today they seem to be crying out for Garda and that has to put pressure on for something to happen, chin up

What's in the papers today dylmeister?

mule101 · 25-01-2010 05:11PM

they have to clear the system with anyone who started the old system of training this would only consist of people who have completed phase 1, anybody in the garda college could tell you this i was down there on thursday and saturday, although this change was well known as early as last feburary

dylmeister · 25-01-2010 05:17PM

Hey blue belle, just in the star today about how "gangland criminals are upping there attempts on robberys and how there isint enough Garda after all the retirements. I know it's not much but better than nothing I suppose isint it, heads up

dylmeister · 25-01-2010 05:23PM

mule101 wrote: »

they have to clear the system with anyone who started the old system of training this would only consist of people who have completed phase 1, anybody in the garda college could tell you this i was down there on thursday and saturday, although this change was well known as early as last feburary

I have friend down in the college at the moment and I told him to keep an eye out on anything happening down there and he hasant said a word so it's hard to believe that I'm sorry

westcork11 · 25-01-2010 09:23PM

Also have a few friends in the college at the moment aswell,passing out on thursday and talked to both of them over the weekend and asked both if there is any talk in the college about an intake and they said not a murmur so find that hard to believe aswell mule. I don't know where you are getting your information.

shanehillview · 25-01-2010 10:14PM

Hey all,

Just spent my Monday evening doing my usual watching programmes on the Gardai and police videos on a certain video hosting website, and a quick look around the Garda website, hoping a major announcement had been over looked, when i noticed that no corporate strategy is there for 2010, the last one is for 2007-09. Figured that the corporate strategy would offer some insight into what is planned for the next year or so.

rugby · 25-01-2010 11:03PM

Hopefully alright, something might happen

Bosco boy · 26-01-2010 11:01AM

Blue Belle wrote: »

That is interesting alright. Can they ask us to have the ECDL and a full driving licence if it wasnt a requirement when we applied though? Im not sure.. Also, if there is that intake in May, they will obviously be on the old course then so? So would we have to wait til they completed all 5 phases before a new course could be implemented? Where did you hear this info Mule if you dont mind me asking?

If I were you I would be working on getting a full licence prior to going in to the college and if you think a ECDL course is going to be a requirement down the road I'd enquire into doing one just in case. Both would be of benefit to you even if you never joined the Gardai. If they started a new recuitment campaign and you dont have these and they are required then you are at the back of the pack. The current vacum in recuitment is an ideal time for the college to set up a new training system and its extremely likely they will. If the election is in May 2012 as it should be and the new system is to be 42 weeks as someone who seems to be in the know suggested, then its likely that June/july 2011 will see an intake as new recruits will be just coming out a few weeks before the election. I hate to say it but with the stoke of a pen the previous recuitment campaign can end and a new one start.

Geri Boyle · 26-01-2010 02:31PM

If you're trying to imply that the current panel will be dismissed to start a new recruitment campaign I personally think thats ridiculous. Why would they waste the money they have already pumped into the last one? Its been confirmed in the dail that the panel will not be scrapped. I think it should be a must to have your full license, thats not an issue but quite frankly I have no intentions of doing an expensive ECDL course when im perfectly computer literate and on the off chance that they may move the goalposts at the very end of my recruitment process and tell me: Actually, were going to add on a few more requirements that werent in place when you first applied. Its not going to happen. I know you're probably relaying information in good faith but my last letter said that subject to commissioners approval I will be offered employment. Not if I have full drivers license and do an ECDL course first! These things have to be requirements from the off.

Waiting Game · 26-01-2010 02:50PM

Blue Belle wrote: »

If you're trying to imply that the current panel will be dismissed to start a new recruitment campaign I personally think thats ridiculous. Why would they waste the money they have already pumped into the last one? Its been confirmed in the dail that the panel will not be scrapped. I think it should be a must to have your full license, thats not an issue but quite frankly I have no intentions of doing an expensive ECDL course when im perfectly computer literate and on the off chance that they may move the goalposts at the very end of my recruitment process and tell me: Actually, were going to add on a few more requirements that werent in place when you first applied. Its not going to happen. I know you're probably relaying information in good faith but my last letter said that subject to commissioners approval I will be offered employment. Not if I have full drivers license and do an ECDL course first! These things have to be requirements from the off.

I agree Blue Belle,on more than one occasion in the Dail Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern confirmed current panel will not be scrapped,fact that people were called for meds,phys as recently as December would confirm that.

itsallgood · 26-01-2010 03:02PM

Couldnt agree more. Just heard on news Minister of Justice has given exemption to fill 150 places within AGS. dont know if that filters down to us or just internal promotios.

carlbre · 26-01-2010 03:16PM

i just heard the same thing on the radio, i dont think its going to filter down straight away but its going to have to filter down in the next few months, then hopefully they'll get a few of you guys into Templemore and start a new recruitment campaign so i can begin

Bosco boy · 26-01-2010 04:46PM

Blue Belle wrote: »

If you're trying to imply that the current panel will be dismissed to start a new recruitment campaign I personally think thats ridiculous. Why would they waste the money they have already pumped into the last one? Its been confirmed in the dail that the panel will not be scrapped. I think it should be a must to have your full license, thats not an issue but quite frankly I have no intentions of doing an expensive ECDL course when im perfectly computer literate and on the off chance that they may move the goalposts at the very end of my recruitment process and tell me: Actually, were going to add on a few more requirements that werent in place when you first applied. Its not going to happen. I know you're probably relaying information in good faith but my last letter said that subject to commissioners approval I will be offered employment. Not if I have full drivers license and do an ECDL course first! These things have to be requirements from the off.

I sincerely hope it works out for you and that you get called asap. I have been in your situation a along time ago and know what its like to be waiting for the call, but you have to realise that they have no contract with you as it stands and if they want to start a new recruitment drive then they will. As for Demot Ahern and the government they dont know what they are doing from one day to the next and they said there wouldnt be pay cuts after the levies were imposed and guess what? along came pay cuts. Its far from ridculous and if you do get in you'll see plenty moving goalposts as you go for promotion etc again best of luck!

Geri Boyle · 26-01-2010 05:37PM

The spotlight has never before been on the misuse and waste of public money as much as it is right now, and you think they are going to scrap a campaign they have been running for almost 2 years and start another one, for what? So each of the candidates have an ECDL and full drivers license? How does that make any sense? There is no logic behind what you are suggesting.

tiring wait · 26-01-2010 10:50PM

Bosco boy wrote: »

If I were you I would be working on getting a full licence prior to going in to the college and if you think a ECDL course is going to be a requirement down the road I'd enquire into doing one just in case. Both would be of benefit to you even if you never joined the Gardai. If they started a new recuitment campaign and you dont have these and they are required then you are at the back of the pack. The current vacum in recuitment is an ideal time for the college to set up a new training system and its extremely likely they will. If the election is in May 2012 as it should be and the new system is to be 42 weeks as someone who seems to be in the know suggested, then its likely that June/july 2011 will see an intake as new recruits will be just coming out a few weeks before the election. I hate to say it but with the stoke of a pen the previous recuitment campaign can end and a new one start.

Have to agree with blue belle on this . i cant see them scrapping the lot especially those having everything completed. they would surely have to bring in these people ther are those who are now over 35 since they last applied and they have asked guys up to repeat meds and pcts as their time had expired. that would seem like an awful waste of money and they were calling people to do their meds and pcts in december so why call them if they were going to scrap it

Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

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