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Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

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    #2342
    adrianjc20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭adrianjc20


    Does anyone have a definite time scale on the Medical and PCT ? Mine like many of you will be a year in April. Maybe someone out there has asked HRM on this matter.


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    #2343
    Geri Boyle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Geri Boyle


    Last I heard when on to HR months back was it was usually 6 months but they would prob extend it to 1 year because of the embargo. But Adrian seriously, just ring and ask them. You're driving yourself demented! ;)


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    #2344
    tiring wait
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭tiring wait


    adrianjc20 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a definite time scale on the Medical and PCT ? Mine like many of you will be a year in April. Maybe someone out there has asked HRM on this matter.
    adrian do yourself a favour and ring hrm. at least they will give you a definitive answer and who knows you might get the call beforehand to go into templemore and that would be a nice surprise fingers crossed.....


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    #2345
    StreetAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭StreetAngel


    hey lads and lassies!
    I know everyone's probably sick of rumours etc, but I thought I'd pass on what I've heard. A relation of mine works with a lad that worked in Garda HQ, and told him that he heard there should be a recruitment campaign very soon. Again, I know that everyone's probably fed up of what "a friend of a friend" is saying, but any rumours of movement might be a bit of encouragement! haven't heard any details, obviously, but who knows...! :D


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    #2346
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    have a look at this, i know its long but scroll down about 3/4 where Noel Coonan starts questioning about investment in North Tipp and the state of the Garda College in Templemore.........

    Willie O'Dea says the report is rubbish and seems to find it all laughable,
    some Minister of Justice that is.

    http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2010-01-28.230.0&s=garda#g351.0


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    #2347
    eroo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    itsallgood wrote: »
    have a look at this, i know its long but scroll down about 3/4 where Noel Coonan starts questioning about investment in North Tipp and the state of the Garda College in Templemore.........

    Willie O'Dea says the report is rubbish and seems to find it all laughable,
    some Minister of Justice that is.

    http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2010-01-28.230.0&s=garda#g351.0

    Before you go for AGS I recommend you have a look at the members of Govt again just in case you're asked who the Minister for Justice is!!:p


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    #2348
    Waiting Game
    Closed Accounts Posts: 229 ✭✭Waiting Game


    i notice that most days 'garda recruitment' is the most popular request in kildarestreet.com's search engine-indication of level of interest in the job


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    #2349
    da__flash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭da__flash


    Interest high......wait long:cool:


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    #2350
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    eroo wrote: »
    Before you go for AGS I recommend you have a look at the members of Govt again just in case you're asked who the Minister for Justice is!!:p

    Willie O'Dea was appointed Minster of Jusice, Equality and Law Reform after 2002 general election.
    Just thought as former Minister for Justice he might have had an interest and surely his office now has to interact with previous one.
    Anyway, not to worry. We know it doesnt matter who's in charge because they're only interest in themselves.


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    #2351
    scoobydoo-gaa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭scoobydoo-gaa


    talking to a garda in human resourses a month ago and he told me there looking at least jan 2011 for another campaign to begin. im on the waiting list myself. just said id let you know what i was told.


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    #2352
    adrianjc20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭adrianjc20


    Well that would sound about right. A campaign would be required following our intakes this year as there would be no one available through the selection process after that. There has to be an emphasis on the difference between an intake and a recruitment campaign, we have all been recruited already and are just awaiting our comencement date.


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    #2353
    Paudie223
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    I wouldn't agree with that Adrian, we haven't been offered places yet so this means we haven't been recruited. Who knows what will happen at this stage but until I get a letter or a call I'm not getting my hopes up too high.


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    #2354
    Mainistir
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭Mainistir


    Paudie223 wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree with that Adrian, we haven't been offered places yet so this means we haven't been recruited. Who knows what will happen at this stage but until I get a letter or a call I'm not getting my hopes up too high.

    Yes im afraid im in agreement here aswell, look at last year when they said they would recruit 400 and they didntt bat an eyelid when they froze thst. Also on every piece of documentation we get it says something like "this dosnt constitute a job offer, offer subjectto commissioner approval" or something like that! Anyway less of the negativity.....we'll all get there eventually but until then im just enjoying the rumour mill, bring em on!!


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    #2355
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    I think Adrian was just trying to explain the difference between the 2, with regards to "campaign" and "intake" he is right that people are using them in the wrong context......
    Then again this thread is for applying to An Garda Siochana so those of us lucky to be waiting on an intake should stick to posting our rumours in the waiting room, and leave this thread for rumours of new campaigns and those who need advice after the apply, once moratorium is lifted.
    This might help avoid cofusion.


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    #2356
    spudz21
    Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭spudz21


    itsallgood wrote: »
    I think Adrian was just trying to explain the difference between the 2, with regards to "campaign" and "intake" he is right that people are using them in the wrong context......
    Then again this thread is for applying to An Garda Siochana so those of us lucky to be waiting on an intake should stick to posting our rumours in the waiting room, and leave this thread for rumours of new campaigns and those who need advice after the apply, once moratorium is lifted.
    This might help avoid cofusion.

    Yea, it does get a bit confusing when there is talk of both intakes and campaigns in this thread:confused::D:D


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    #2357
    Commish
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Commish


    Hi everyone, just reading through all the posts there. Seriously at this stage i wouldnt even try to second guess whats going to happen on the recruitment front because they dont even know themselves. Theres a huge restructure underway and recruitment is included in that. The structure of the course in Templemore has changed and they are also currently playing around in a few different fields regarding getting Gardai recruits in and where they will be recruited from. The big thing on everyones lips these days is money and how much of it is there???? I would not at all be surprised if something crazy happens to be honest and a lot of people will be disappointed. Theres no money at the moment to recruit gardai but at the same time they are urgently required or should i say will be. The government are sitting back quitely observing how many Gardai are going to retire and how many need to be replaced. A clear figure will become noticeable to them shortly and then thats when i feel the craziest recession busting recruitment campaigns ever will be seen. I wouldnt reject any job offers in the meantime though. I really hope everyone writing here and waiting with their nails chewed off actually get in and get on well.


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    #2358
    SPEDFED
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SPEDFED


    Commish wrote: »
    I would not at all be surprised if something crazy happens to be honest and a lot of people will be disappointed.

    Care to elaborate??


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    #2359
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    "I would not at all be surprised if something crazy happens to be honest and a lot of people will be disappointed."

    "thats when i feel the craziest recession busting recruitment campaigns ever will be seen."

    Don't understand what your trying to say here, did you contradict yourself or are you saying this campaign will be scrapped to start a new one??:confused::confused:

    Take you heard it from somewhere would you care to share your source with us?


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    #2360
    cushtac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    Commish wrote: »
    Theres a huge restructure underway and recruitment is included in that. The structure of the course in Templemore has changed and they are also currently playing around in a few different fields regarding getting Gardai recruits in and where they will be recruited from.

    They were looking at altering the training process, but that was shelved due to the recruitment embargo and nothing was implemented. They'll be changing nothing at the moment since there's no new students coming in. To the best of my knowledge there's been no proposed change in the recruitment criteria.
    Commish wrote: »
    The big thing on everyones lips these days is money and how much of it is there???? I would not at all be surprised if something crazy happens to be honest and a lot of people will be disappointed. Theres no money at the moment to recruit gardai but at the same time they are urgently required or should i say will be. The government are sitting back quitely observing how many Gardai are going to retire and how many need to be replaced. A clear figure will become noticeable to them shortly and then thats when i feel the craziest recession busting recruitment campaigns ever will be seen. I wouldnt reject any job offers in the meantime though. I really hope everyone writing here and waiting with their nails chewed off actually get in and get on well.

    What are you basing all this on?


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    #2361
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    cushtac wrote: »
    They were looking at altering the training process, but that was shelved due to the recruitment embargo and nothing was implemented. They'll be changing nothing at the moment since there's no new students coming in. To the best of my knowledge there's been no proposed change in the recruitment criteria.



    What are you basing all this on?

    Cushtac, dont mind me asking how you know this?


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    #2362
    cushtac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    itsallgood wrote: »
    Cushtac, dont mind me asking how you know this?

    From colleagues in the depot & in the college.


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    #2363
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    cushtac wrote: »
    From colleagues in the depot & in the college.

    Thanks, so can we say a recent post on here can be disregarded?
    You may also know then about the current panel, is it at all likely to be scrapped for new campaign or will it be kept till we fill intakes as promised by Ministers in Dail Eireann?


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    #2364
    cushtac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    itsallgood wrote: »
    Thanks, so can we say a recent post on here can be disregarded?

    In my opinion, yes. They haven't changed anything in the training syllabus yet, if they ever will, and they certainly haven't changed the selection criteria.
    itsallgood wrote: »
    You may also know then about the current panel, is it at all likely to be scrapped for new campaign or will it be kept till we fill intakes as promised by Ministers in Dail Eireann?

    I know nothing about that, sorry.


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    #2365
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    thanks, I was told the same thing by HQ appointments with regards to no changes being made to training syllabus at this time.


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    #2366
    Commish
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Commish


    cushtac wrote: »
    They were looking at altering the training process, but that was shelved due to the recruitment embargo and nothing was implemented. They'll be changing nothing at the moment since there's no new students coming in. To the best of my knowledge there's been no proposed change in the recruitment criteria.



    What are you basing all this on?

    Review the recruit training program to ensure that it is providing new Gardaí with the core policing skills they require to do their jobs.

    The report of the Training Review Group was presented to the Commissioner on 26 June, 2009 and was subsequently forwarded to the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform.

    Develop a recruitment and selection strategy that ensures a talented, multi-cultural, multilingual workforce, both sworn and non-sworn.

    The Garda Síochána in conjunction with the Public Appointments Service, which acts as agent in the initial selection of Garda trainees, is reviewing the selection process to give effect to this recommendation and will report by mid-2010.


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    #2367
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    Commish you seem to throw your opinion about Garda Recruitment and Garda Reserve around as if there fact.....
    Would you care to tell us how you know all this?
    Are you a Garda, a reserve, waiting to apply or working somewhere within the system.
    Don't mean to doubt you, but a lot of people post fiction as facts, and its hard to take them onboard with more then a pinch of salt.


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    #2368
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    strategy and polcing plans published yesterday

    http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/policingplan%20english.pdf

    http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/policingplan%20english.pdf


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    #2369
    Mainistir
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭Mainistir


    itsallgood wrote: »
    strategy and polcing plans published yesterday

    http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/policingplan%20english.pdf

    http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/policingplan%20english.pdf

    Not a peep about a numbers intake or even recruitment dirve unfortunately or did i miss something?


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    #2370
    itsallgood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    you didnt miss a thing........
    unfortunatley.....some stuff about training programmes thats all


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    #2371
    Commish
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Commish


    itsallgood wrote: »
    Commish you seem to throw your opinion about Garda Recruitment and Garda Reserve around as if there fact.....
    Would you care to tell us how you know all this?
    Are you a Garda, a reserve, waiting to apply or working somewhere within the system.
    Don't mean to doubt you, but a lot of people post fiction as facts, and its hard to take them onboard with more then a pinch of salt.

    I just took that from the Garda Inspectorate report and posted it. Thats available online to everyone.


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