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SUPER TUESDAY! Budget discussion thread MERGED

darkman2 · 2009-04-06 13:31:20

Get ready, as a nation, to collectively bend over and take it up the backside from those who created this mess. Who will be sorest after 4:30PM tomorrow? My own view is that the middle people will be hit again as usual - that includes me and the majority. There will be some form of income levy. A bad bank will be created…

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#152 07-04-2009 02:01PM

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thelordofcheese wrote: »

i believe this is what's technically know as "step 2: ???????"

Even if we kicked them out of government long enough to wake them up out of their complacent idea that they're untouchable I'd be happy. As it is they know they can do whatever they want because of the masses of people who vote for them because their daddies did or because they think the country will collapse into a black hole within seconds of Enda Kenny sitting in the Taoiseach chair.

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#153 07-04-2009 02:04PM

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panda100 wrote: »

Got this email today of some facts to consider on budget day.Quite intresting as you can bet the wealthiest in our society will not be hit the hardest today:

28.2 per cent of all the income earned in 2008 was earned by just 6.36 per cent of the population.(Irish Times 5/3/09)

6 per cent of all income earned in 2008 was earned by just 0.22 per cent of the population.(Irish Times 5/3/09)

The richest 1% of the Irish population own 34% of the wealth.

At the very top, the 1,447 people (0.06 per cent of all income earners) who earned more than €1 million each last year, collectively earned 3.4 per cent of all income. In real figure terms, this small cohort of people earned €3.459 billion in 2008, an average of €2.39 million each. (Irish Times 5/3/09)

Of the EU-15, Ireland ranks first in terms of earnings inequality (OECD, Decile Ratios of Gross Earnings, 2008)

In Ireland between 1960-1970 78% of GDP was paid in wages. Betweeen 2001 and 2006 this had fallen to 55%

Between 2005-2008 the richest 1% of the population made €41bn.
Tax shelters cost the state €8bn last year. In 2006 & 2007 private landlords got €1.4bn in tax relief

English translation:

Drop trousers, bend over, spread arse cheeks and hold on tight... :pac:

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#154 07-04-2009 02:05PM

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panda100 wrote: »

Got this email today of some facts to consider on budget day.Quite intresting as you can bet the wealthiest in our society will not be hit the hardest today:

28.2 per cent of all the income earned in 2008 was earned by just 6.36 per cent of the population.(Irish Times 5/3/09)

6 per cent of all income earned in 2008 was earned by just 0.22 per cent of the population.(Irish Times 5/3/09)

The richest 1% of the Irish population own 34% of the wealth.

At the very top, the 1,447 people (0.06 per cent of all income earners) who earned more than €1 million each last year, collectively earned 3.4 per cent of all income. In real figure terms, this small cohort of people earned €3.459 billion in 2008, an average of €2.39 million each. (Irish Times 5/3/09)

Of the EU-15, Ireland ranks first in terms of earnings inequality (OECD, Decile Ratios of Gross Earnings, 2008)

In Ireland between 1960-1970 78% of GDP was paid in wages. Betweeen 2001 and 2006 this had fallen to 55%

Between 2005-2008 the richest 1% of the population made €41bn.
Tax shelters cost the state €8bn last year. In 2006 & 2007 private landlords got €1.4bn in tax relief

The only problem with this is that those same richest people also paid taxes in a similar ratio.

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#155 07-04-2009 02:10PM

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The only problem with this is that those same richest people also paid taxes in a similar ratio.

Probably not true on income, and definitely not true on wealth

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#156 07-04-2009 02:10PM

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Even if we kicked them out of government long enough to wake them up out of their complacent idea that they're untouchable I'd be happy.

A few pitchforks wouldnt do that. You need to be more radical. Think votes of no confidence, and the like.

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#157 07-04-2009 02:10PM

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Cork4ever wrote: »

Finally i think the mods on this board should ban anyone who threatens the life of another person not to mind anyone who wants to assinate a duly elected memeber of parliment.

Brian Cowen is NOT a person! He's some sort of walrus/hippo hybrid.

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#158 07-04-2009 02:12PM

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asdasd wrote: »

Ack the whole blaming of Fianna Fail is nonsense. Irish people would have been appalled at any increase in taxes during the boom, and any measures taken to curtail the property market would have had pitch forks at dawn. No Party was suggesting more taxes. And no party demanded that the easy credit be curtailed, say to 3 times income. That would have "priced" people out of the market.

The responsiiibilty for the boom and the collapse lies with a significant chunk of the irish people, and not just the people who voted for Fianna Fail. All property owners had a vested interest in the party continuing as long as possible, and most made their arguments forcibly in pubs, on the radio, and on these fora.

Edit: Full disclosure - asdasd is not a a member of any political party and has never voted for Fianna Fail in his life.

A convenient truth that people like to ignore as it is easier to blame everything and anything other than ourselves.

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#159 07-04-2009 02:17PM

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Leprachaun wrote: »

Brian Cowen is NOT a person! He's some sort of walrus/hippo hybrid.

Coo Coo Ca Choon in at 4pm for the end of the country as we know it.

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#160 07-04-2009 02:18PM

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Rojomcdojo wrote: »

The only problem with this is that those same richest people also paid taxes in a similar ratio.

Wouldnt hold my breath about that considering there are 6000 people registered as tax exiles. Of the top 20 richest people in Ireland over half of them are tax resident outside Ireland.

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#161 07-04-2009 02:19PM

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asdasd wrote: »

A few pitchforks wouldnt do that. You need to be more radical. Think votes of no confidence, and the like.

No way man, that's too radical for me. I'll just stick to mindless violence

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#162 07-04-2009 02:28PM

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Well, it's Ireland, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it;
it's Ireland, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.

There's developers on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's developers on the starboard bow, scrape 'em off, Jim.

Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Only going forward, and things are getting worse!

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#163 07-04-2009 03:20PM

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45 minutes. I can almost hear them polishing the axe.

BTW what do think Lenihan will say at the end other then "muhahahahaha"? Remember the "patriotic duty" stuff he came out with the last time?

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#164 07-04-2009 03:35PM

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Lennihan will look like Denis the menace when he comes out of that building. big thick head on him proudly holding the budget book while all the sheep clap with approval.

See you in a few months brian for another budget you fat piece of liquid dog sh*t.

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#165 07-04-2009 03:40PM

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I can hear Junior Ministers' holes contracting from here, eerie!

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#166 07-04-2009 03:42PM

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Who else thinks George Lee is the man? Such a cold, number-crunching bsatard!

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#167 07-04-2009 03:46PM

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OK everyone.

1. Take a deep breath,
2. Relax
3. Bend over
4. and prepare to receive thine destiny!

Don't clinch now, just let it slip in......

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#168 07-04-2009 03:54PM

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bend over,
dont clinch
force out
expell the deep breath
its not that bad now is it
the pain is only your imagneation
sore, whats sore,
get used to it
because it is gonna last

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#169 07-04-2009 03:54PM

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Reminder for all those unaware that there is now a mini-forum all about the budget here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1196

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#170 07-04-2009 04:11PM

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10% cut in Govt. expenses.
Poor Jackie Healy Rae will only get to claim €90,000 in expenses this year.

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#171 07-04-2009 04:14PM

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Dole cut in half for under twenties, excellent.
Now they just need to cut it in half for the over twenties and the country won't be such a joke.

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So..

whats this all about then?

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#173 07-04-2009 04:23PM

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Tellox wrote: »

Dole cut in half for under twenties, excellent.
Now they just need to cut it in half for the over twenties and the country won't be such a joke.

Yeah! fuck those people who are out of a job, useless wastes of flesh that they are!

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#174 07-04-2009 04:23PM

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2% levy now i think i heard?

cock.

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#175 07-04-2009 04:26PM

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Ah FFS!!!!:mad::mad:

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#176 07-04-2009 04:27PM

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I think he meant 25 cent increase, not %

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#177 07-04-2009 04:28PM

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Cancer sticks up 25cents.

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#178 07-04-2009 04:28PM

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Hope so, I missed it. Can't imagine he'd be stupid enough to put it over a tenner a box.

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#179 07-04-2009 04:29PM

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That was a close one .. . .

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#180 07-04-2009 04:29PM

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he better of or i can see me shift a containers worth of ciggerettes at a 5'er a packet Very easily.

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#181 07-04-2009 04:30PM

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I heard 25%...was it 25 cent?

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