SCEP Scheme

So. Much for icbf reckoning tags will be sent out in February /march this year after so slow to send last year. Another case of holding the show up.

Yea they will wait till cattle are back out after being in over 6 months 🙄

They wrote this on icbf this time last year and still no tags on time

Don't know, but everything the dept of agri has touched lately is dragged on, so I blame them.

Completed for a neighbour there 8 weeks ago. He still waiting on mullinahone, going to switch to the other crowd and see how long mine take, done calving now for a bit

Great idea, saves taking a days holiday off work for it. I can tip away at it in the background at work. But I see article on agriland saying their cutting out section of farming community by doing it online. Can't keep everyone happy I suppose

what PIN number on what letter?

Cormac Tags landed 2 days after ordered. And have sent back to lab, weight us still waiting on tags from mullinahone. Some difference

Arrived here the day after over half of the required animals were turned out to rented ground with no crush. Ar$eholes. Could have been finished with it had they been even one day earlier.

I’m not certain but you’d think it would be ok. You could ring ICBF on Tuesday to check.

You select the Dam,Sire and gender when you initially register a calf.

@josephsoap may not have signed up for the NGP - so the SCEP dna will now regularise the gender. The blue card will have to be returned.

Sucklers, and SCEP, are only a minor sideline here. Signed up for it as we already fulfill all the major conditions anyway. We don't have time to be trying to micromanage how other businesses run their business. They should be able to do their task rather than not having capacity in place so that only the ones that jump through the hoops of ringing them begging for preferential treatment get their tags at a reasonable time.

It's May. Cattle have to go out as soon as they can be got out.

Strange response. Do you apply the same logic to everything? If you submit your BISS application online and do everything right but they are slow in paying out at the end of the year, would it be your own fault for "not helping yourself" by failing to ring up to give them a sob story to jump the queue? Not the fault of the system or the people who are supposed to process it?

Your local dealer/mechanic says "drop it up anytime. It will only take a few hours" when you say you are going to bring a tractor up for a service. You leave it in on a Monday of a week you won't need it. You go up on Friday to pick it up and he says "We didn't do it yet. Ah sure you never rang up to explain your situation so you didn't help yourself".

You might have the luxury of time to be arsing about with such matters, but not everyone does. Cattle have to go out when they can be got out. It's May. The number that were put out that would have been tagged (if the tags were available) is less than 2% of the registered animals. It would be beyond stupid to be holding up the show waiting for tags to arrive in the post under the circumstances.

We could have made as many begging calls with sob stories as we liked to try to get bumped up the queue. It still doesn't change the fact that the animals have to go out when they have to go out. We don't have the luxury to be arsing about delaying that end of things. If we had known for certain that the tags would have been arriving at 5pm by tracked delivery on the day we put them out, they would still have gone out that day without them.

I made a one-sentence post about them sending them out late. It wasn't an unreasonable observation. And not the end of the world, but it is a minor inconvenience. I didn't expect to be attacked and held responsible for them being late in doing what they are expected to do

Cattle here are housed over the winter and let out in (usually) late Spring when the weather allows. It's hardly a unique set of circumstances necessitating having to ring up looking for special treatment.

Where did I say it was his fault???

Was talking to my advisor yesterday and he said one of his colleagues had been talking to DAFM on the matter above as regards Record Keeping and Events Recording. Apparently there is to be a payment run in May to cover this.

Was initially meant to be paid in March, then April and the latest is May so I won't hold my breath for it just yet

same as you, logged in on tab but couldn’t get first session to open. Might have to try computer

Open to correction, but I think they still charge you the 18 for the SCEP required ones.

That’s the reason i didn’t join the NGP, you can’t carry spare animals from one year to the next, you would have been better off staying out of it imo.

Also if you join the NGP you are still paying €18 per animal for genotyping the no of animals needed for the SCEP scheme afaik.

Likewise I didn't join for the same reason.

I see ICBF have finally got the finger out and added a tab for every bull when you look up their figures showing whether the bull is eligible for the SCEP scheme or not.

True, their website is a disaster. It needs a lot of improvements but they don’t seem to care.

If she scored as a 4* at any stage she will stay that way as long as she stays in the herd