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Electric Picnic 2024 **No Ticket Sales / Requests** - Waiting in line, terrible time, over familiar

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    It's an unfortunate reality for I'd say at the very least 50% of the crowd the music is now secondary to the Festival experience. I know plenty of people who go and barely see any acts bar the few main headliners, it's a camping trip with mates and cans that has the option of limitless music if they want it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    There is truth to Fanirish's comment. In the chats that I have had with people attending this year, I was on about the crap line-up, and in every conversation it has been mentioned it's not about the music. That's its a great occasion. And these are adults. I think that is even more the case with tiktokkers, Instagramers - who are more into being at the occasion than actually enjoying the occasion. With Spotify, many of the younger generation don't get into albums as much as was done previously. The main songs will be picked out, and the remaining tunes can be just forgotten about. They will happily go along to EP in great anticipation to Noah Kahans performance, but yet knowing only one song. That is enough for them to enjoy his set, as they are getting their one song, and they are in the EP environment. For the rest of, say his set for example, they will be chatting with friends, on phones, getting drink etc. They will sing along to Sticks, and afterwards will say how brilliant he was. Same with Kodaline and All I Want.

    I havent a ticket yet. I'll wait until the few days beforehand. If the weather is decent, there is probably enough on the lineup for me to see me through each day. I'll need to see the proper line up and set times first to see what clashes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    If Reading/Leeds were sold out i'd back you mate. But theyre not and the dial ain't moving on them soon.

    This theorem that capacity increases mean a quality decrease is ráiméis. Helen Keller could tell you that if Kodaline are your festivals headliner someone made a hames of it. The midcard on this years announcement is a hollow as an election promise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    honestly Galway races comparison is kinda spot on to a large point. People who care about horse racing/betting as % of attendees is probably in the minority whereas the majority are there for buzz, drinking, Craic and sure if they win some money every day even better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭fourmations


    Lineup i horrendous for me too but it is about the craic and escaping the rat-race for the weekend, we have more craic at the tents than inside the arena (and im not exactly a tiktok-er im 50!!!) this is the recurring conversation post line-up every year as far as i can see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    I'm afraid I need the music.

    Just about scraped a weekend out of 2022, and there was much more on the initial poster than this years.

    I thought last year was excellent tbh which makes this abomination all the more painful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Much of that is true but there are still an enormous bunch of people across all demographics who are there for the music. There are a lot like us who are not posting on boards. My niece and her pals go for the music as do the offspring of my friends. If just there for a couple of tracks then Billie Eilish, Arctic Monkeys, Dermot Kennedy, etc will lose their audience.

    Statements that it’s not all about the music apply to both EP & Glasto and I’ve used them myself. I’ve not come across any European festival that offers as much beyond the music stages as those two and the vibe the different areas create cannot easily be replicated. Most festivals don’t even try as it’s far too difficult. Much of that is being eroded with the loss of B&S and Other Voices and further negative changes alongside a worsening lineup will kill EP in my opinion. Despite the current criticisms I’d hate for that to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭dav09


    I was comparing the caliber of top tier acts with Primevera, Pukklepop, Sziget, R&L, others, etc in previous years with the caliber of acts at EP which it falls miles flat of this year. I don't want the Irish Primevera I can visit that again elsewhere, I just want a maybe half decent lineup!

    It's the very same with me, it is what you make of it but that is only to a certain degree, can't justify trying and caring to go anymore when the lineup is a poor as it is.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    Fully agree. After 22 nearly didn't buy early but gave them a post covid pass. 23 really enjoyed the musi but 24 so far looks very poor so won't be buying early for 25 will wait and see the line up (if I like it there will probably be loads selling sayingvits crap)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    "primavera is a destination music festivals for music fans around europe to flock to and even that model is falling in last year or two." - Yes, probably because they've moved away from their core music booking policy of 15+ years and started booking flavour of the month pop and rap acts, expanded the festival in a more mainstream direction, and alienated some of their longtime repeat customers. That seems to have left them vulnerable to a fickle new audience - the casual listener masses. Apparently the weekend ticket sales are so slow this year that they've reduced them and have made more single day tickets available, as there's a large demand from Lana Del Rey fans for her day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Theres a % of people with the disposable income/lack of cultural curiosity combo to spend weekend in campsite drinking warm cans, sure. Not denying this, been the case since the start of the Picnic. But is it more than 30%? Majority of people who go to music festivals have at least a passing interest in the music. To suggest otherwise is wacky craic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    I think the best way to gauge this is to simply witness the hoards descending towards the main stage from the Hendrix campsite just before Billie / Megan thee stallion / 1975 etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    €300 to drink cans in a field with your mates is a hella expensive weekend. I like the buzz but it's a music festival. I'm not spending €300 on a ticket when I'd struggle to find more than 3 bands there I'd like to see. I can drink out my back garden with my mates if I just wanted a nice buzz and a few cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    EP socials posting about Wilderness Festival on the EP account just there. Grim aul craic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    Been trying to convince myself that the Love Regenerator tracks that Calvin Harris released in the early 2020s are good. But they're only good in comparison to his other mainstream output. And he likely wouldn't even play them. All those Fantazia era samples wasted.

    And now my algorithm is f*cked.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭darzog


    I experienced an amusing encounter with a member of the ‘one song’ brigade in real time.

    At last year’s ATN, during Iggy’s set, a young wan came belting towards me out of nowhere and he asked me if Iggy had already done ‘Lust for Life’. I replied that he had, and this lad was really hacked off, and started moaning that he couldn’t believe that he had missed it. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt as LFL could have been significant to him for any number of reasons.

    I said to him that Iggy had a ton of songs that were more than worthy of sticking around for. This wee lad started whining to me that “someone like me” couldn’t possibly understand what that song meant to “his generation”. That, dear reader, was the exact moment that my sympathy abruptly ran out and he was summarily dismissed with a couple of verbal toe-hokes up the auld jam roll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Obviously not their Facebook page then, has Wilderness a similar line up?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    Look mate, you wouldn't understand unless you'd seen Trainspotting in the cinema.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    No, it's decent, Michael Kiwanuka headlining for a start



  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭CONSI


    Going to a festival in Poland, Foo fighters, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, Sam Smith and a bunch of euro acts I've never heard of..cheaper than EP for 4 days



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Negative. Not even same weekend. Another indication of shoddy craic in FR towers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭darzog


    he would have struggled to be allowed in to see Trainspotting 2 ffs! Buckin’ unterhosen older than him in my top drawer



  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Kepler21


    I've held off on expressing my thoughts until now. I go on my own, and I've been privileged to meet up with some of you and that has enhanced my experience a lot, but it really is about the music for me. I saw bits of 41 bands last year, including 7 on the Main stage. Some of them I only stayed for a couple of songs. 17 on the other main stages (including 3 All for Music), 7 on Croi, 5 Salty Dog, 3 Survivor, 2 Trailer park.

    Billie Eilish, Wet Leg, Nia Archives, Saw Doctors, De Danaan probably the highlights.

    Kylie would be my only must-see and I would like to see Raye. I would probably drop in to Noah, and give Calvin a short while as I've never seen him. Gerry and Kodaline I've seen enough of. Nothing really excites me though.

    The undercard feels very weak, especially as that is where a lot of my time is typically spent.

    Faithless, Kasabian, NAS, Teddy Swims, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, the Teskey Brothers, The Waterboys, Jalen Ngonda, Thee Sacred Souls seem like the main acts I will dig into, but I'm not that excited about any of them (yet).

    Overall I have enough to be getting to know, but less that I really want to invest in.

    its also my main music experience in the year, which means that all these stand-alone gigs and other festivals instead of playing at EP impacts me and just contributes to the feeling that there is less of the music that interests me at EP and more of it elsewhere.

    There is a decent amount still to come that will hopefully provide some excitement and interest, but I will be looking at the overall value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,647 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    2022 was my first year. I'm not sure how that happened, as I've been going to festivals since '93! For me, the lineup in '22 was just okay but, because it was my first time there, I spent an awful lot of my time exploring the site, whenever there were gaps in my music schedule. I couldn't get over the scale of the place. I had an enjoyable time.

    Last year was completely different. As I'd been previously and knew the lie of the land, I was much more focused on the music. The line up even had clashes FFS! More than a couple!

    This year, having not had a chance to research the bands/artists I've not heard of yet, I've only five that I have the remotest interest in seeing...and two of those, I've seen before - Kasabian and The Scratch. The others are The Waterboys, Newdad and Kneecap...none of which I'd be too bothered if I missed. There's just nothing there. I just can't get my head around it. Where's all the (electric) guitar music?! There's so many good bands on these shores that I've listed in an earlier post, and none of them feature. Fúck sake like!

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Orbital, Supergrass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Bingo with that last line. "If that's the case can they not just give us a good lineup that people who actually enjoy music can like then instead of this rubbish?".

    That is the part I can't get my head around. So many people just come for the event now anyway and unfortunately @Wooderson I'd estimate it is well over 30% at this stage. But why have they changed the entire landscape of the festival to cater to these people? They would surely have come anyway based on the reputation of the festival if they had of just continued with their normal ethos pre-covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    An excellent question mate. Think it speaks vols to younger gen that their interests are such that they can afford a ticket to a music fest and not participate in that to the full. Bit sad from my perspective.

    May bow out of this thread now as I'm sure I'm exhausting people with negativity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    the festival has doubled capacity in the last decade and added 30% capacity over last two years. It needs to cater to people who want to sing along to a bunch of songs from biggest artists around/nostalgia acts whose music is played in your local bar or what they hear on TikTok.
    the normal ethos circa 2017/2018 don’t make sense in 2024 and the festival can’t survive trying to cater to and older and older demographic who due to life will be returning in lesser numbers year on year. You need fresh blood and more of them every year and need a line up that caters to them.
    I think someone mentioned Nick cave a few posts Back, he doesn’t make sense for EP to book in 2024. His fee is better used to help book a Gerry cinnamon or similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    the festival has doubled capacity in the last decade and added 30% capacity over last two years. It needs to cater to people who want to sing along to a bunch of songs from biggest artists around/nostalgia acts whose music is played in your local bar or what they hear on TikTok.
    the normal ethos circa 2017/2018 don’t make sense in 2024 and the festival can’t survive trying to cater to and older and older demographic who due to life will be returning in lesser numbers year on year. You need fresh blood and more of them every year and need a line up that caters to them.
    I think someone mentioned Nick cave a few posts Back, he doesn’t make sense for EP to book in 2024. His fee is better used to help book a Gerry cinnamon or similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    one final key point is that European agents are well versed to EP now and know if it suits their artist now. So when people wonder why X artist isn’t EP it can be very easily be that their agent reckons that EP is not suitable for their act and that other festivals or headline shows are the better option for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    You really have to stop trotting out this nonsense buddy. Everyone gets what they're doing. Your assertion that this is the only way they can run a profitable festival is manifestly bullshit. The idea that they have to strip all quality or diversity from the lineup to keep people buying tickets is horseshit. That passage about catering to an 'older and older demographic who due to life will be returning in lesser numbers year on year' is one of the the most patronising and nonsensical lines I've read on here. And that's quite the statement. You'd swear we were looking for Val Doonican. The argument has always been for quality, in all genres, not for nostalgia.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    As I mentioned in post above the types of acts who you want to play might very well be avoiding EP as their manager/agent might not deem it the right option for the band.
    and what you consider a quality line up may be a dreadful line up in the eyes of the average mid 20 year old EP goer. Calvin Harris May be a quality booking to a younger person than you.

    when people lament why x international artists are not booked for EP you be surprised that a lot of the time it just a matter it doesn’t suit the band.
    EP bookers have to work with artists around europe on a given weekend and who ultimately want to play the festival.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    Lads I’ll go see SEB as she’s “abit a whisst” and ‘murder on the dance floor’ is iconic at this stage, I’m sure it’ll be great craic, but does she actually have any other songs? 😂😂 and I’ll probably go see Kylie too assuming no clashes… like wtf has happened to me😭

    *fml if you were to go back in time to boards EP2014 with this comment!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    she’s got at least two others of her own I vaguely remember plus that groovejet track



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    Delayed reaction !! Where are Kasabian going to play?
    It’s an almighty fall from closing the pyramid stage Sunday night at Glastonbury 2014 to being in a tent at 75k EP or third fiddle on the MainStage!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Soft spot for "A pessimist is never disappointed". Gorgeous, actually. Think she finishes with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Negativity is no hassle, particularly with this announcement, so stay and contribute.many great posts recently.

    And I’m not in full agreement regarding the superficiality of many of the young attendees of EP. The ones I know who attend know their music and there are always plenty of youngsters at These Charming Men singing along to every last word. Pixies, Sprints, Thumper and Viagra Boys aren’t playing to a tent of auld fellas. Most of the kids at EP are going for music as much as a laugh and good luck to them. And those kids enjoy a wide range of music from vacuous pop to new post-punk and beyond. The problem isn’t them but what they’re being provided with and as long as it’s lapped up with tickets sold it ain’t going to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭sh89000


    Wouldn't particularly call it a fall from grace. I think they've done pretty well since Tom left.....…I would have never pictured myself seeing them again without him but have done so multiple times and I've honestly preferred the gigs post tom.

    Serge is a gifted front man, the olympia gig was one of the most enjoyable shows (and sweatiest) I've been to in recent years.

    I'd imagine they'll be EA on the Saturday? They'd be unreal in there compared to open air IMO

    Their headlining latitude this summer and done NBHD weekender last year or kendal calling....one of the two and they done pretty well on the festival circuit last year being high up enough on a lot of bills.

    For anyone going make sure not to miss them, I'll be catching them in Belfast before liam

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭declanleo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    @Wooderson Keep the comments coming dude, I like your sense of humour. I don't understand Fanirish, EP almost balanced the Smaltzy pop with some decent rock and electronica, why change something that doesn't need to be changed. Like Noah Kahan and Kylie could play why not some rock act aaah it will probably balance out a bit with the further announcements, but it seems that first announcement to me seems deliberately bland or as Hicks puts it, ' When did mediocracy and banality become a good image for the youth ' and I'm sure quite a few young folk feel the same. Will still work this I'm curious to what this abomination of a line up will attract.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Seen Kasabian 3 or 4 times years ago, but not for a good few years at this stage. Their gig in the Point about 15 years ago, with my pregnant wife, is one of my favourite ever gigs. Absolutely superb live, and they have the songs to put on a real show. Agree that EA late on the Saturday would be great for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭TenPicnics


    Your lowest-common-denominator approach to what a good festival is screams ignorance/stupidity.

    That comment about Nick Cave??? FFS would you cop yourself on. Nick made a ton of brand new fans at ATN in recent years, people - lots and lots of young people - who went to see him at ATN although normally, outside of a festival, they wouldn't - BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY GOOD/LEGENDARY FESTIVALS WORK. Sorry for shouting but I had to get past the crap blocking your ears. Nick Cave was for many the highlight of that festival. And for existing fans like me, his performance at ATN was one of the best musical experiences ever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    I don't agree with a lot of your points as the festival could have a lot more balanced approach. The people going for the "festival vibes" aren't overly pushed about the line up.

    However there are plenty of people that I know now clamoring for tickets purely to see Calvin Harris and Kylie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭sh89000


    Yeah I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with them post tom. Their also doing a huge outdoor hometown gig in Leicester this summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    For those that use it. Eco camping is up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    Um.

    Wat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    Can't seem to bring this up, is it working?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭rubick


    Is the BYEco ticket sake live? I can't find it on the Eventbrite site and there's been no notification that they were going on sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    For anyone harbouring any hopes of the Bothy band turning up at festivals, all their gigs are now cancelled due to Lunnys health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    I did get e-mail from them, will grab and paste linky.

    update : looks like a boo boo was made, linky leads to



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