Why I'll say no to a united ireland

Wrong again. The quote I made was not from post no. 8334 or from post no 8337.

It was from post no. 8342.

"I asked you the question: Can you explain ALL of the reasons the pIRA military knowledge and expertise was far superior to the military knowledge of the loyalist paramilitaries? Was it at least partly because there was (a) greater transfer of knowledge about explosives between Irish army and pIRA than between British army and loyalists (b) more scope for training in certain areas with nod and a wink south of the border - which did happen - than north of the border?"

There can never be peace and reconciliation while people like you hide behind claims that everything is okay and we dare not check the stats. Can I assume that you are against all firm employment legislation in Northern around which is impossible without labelling people and communities? How do you think we can ensure equality if we pretend everything is okay?

If you can prove collusion with the Irish government in training the IRA, go ahead.
We know the British government knew what the UDR were doing. We know they covered up what the BA did.

The census downcow.
I posted the data. In all 5 wards in Castlewellan there are people who answered the census and said they identified as British or N. Irish.
Either, none of these are ‘Unionist’ or you have been exaggerating again to claim victimhood.

You still haven’t answered his question

show us the boundary of what you are referring to. It’s pointless otherwise.
and I say again, your claim is utter nonsense

The 1 flag at each end has now become 1 flag at each end plus another 1 at the entrance to the housing estate plus the disclaimer that it's only on the route that you drove through.

Who made the decision over how many flags to fly and where to fly them?

Pleased to hear you got your camera fixed. We're getting a lot of promises on this thread. I dread to think how you're going to back up this claim …

"I will absolutely stand over, and evidence if necessary, that there are only four significant businesses in ‘loyalist’ Clough and that three of them are owned and run by nationalists, and fully supported by the local unionist community."

It's all very distasteful and reminds me of the time years ago the UDR drove into the catholic church carpark and wrote down all the number plates of the cars parked there.

No condemnation of the UVF flags on display other than "These flags go up over the 12th period as an expression of our culture and identity" ??

Who made the decision over how many flags to fly and where to fly them?

Who made the decision to fly the tricolour on the GAA building in Castlewellan, or on the pole on the street outside the Youth club? Does it matter?

I will deal with these points later when I have time. But just to make you aware, if you’re not already, that there is a long-standing protocol and most unionist towns and villages with regard to flags.
Flags go up on the 1st of July for the battle of the Somme, stay up through the festival. And come down and immediately after the big Black Saturday parades (last Saturday in August). The protocol for the rest of the year is that one union flag can fly at each entrance to a town or village and at the entrance to any estates who desire it - Clough is simply abiding by that protocol.
as for UVF flags. I think you have identified one in Clough. These flags will all have 1912 clearly embossed upon them to demonstrate that they are not linked to the modern day terrorist organisation. One piece of learning I have had from this forum, is that people feel that is not enough and I accept that - I have suggested to several people that those flags should potentially be changed to the 36th Division - which would commemorate the same events but would remove any confusion. I would prefer They were not used

In recent days the Tánaiste has said that Irish soldiers training troops in regimes subject to international sanctions is an “absolutely unacceptable” undermining of Ireland’s reputation.

It has been reported that departing and former members of the Defence Forces, including from the elite Army Ranger Wing, provided training to a Libyan military group in alleged breaches of UN and EU sanctions.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/04/03/irishmen-training-army-of-libyan-strongman-khalifa-haftar-in-apparent-breach-of-un-embargo/

Out of tens of thousands of people who served in the Irish defence forces over many decades, do you really think none had Republican sympathies, or that the pIRA did not infiltrate the army?

And just to be clear this is the definition of whataboutery. It is in no way linked with the topic we are discussing but in you inalienable need to be seen to be right (or have a scintilla of knowledge) about your continued meandering lies, you've just scoured the internet for anything that you can throw about thinking it supports your argument.

Some would be of the opinion that one of the reasons the pIRA military knowledge and expertise was far superior to the military knowledge of the loyalist paramilitaries was because there was (a) greater transfer of knowledge about explosives between Irish army and pIRA 

Here you go. To make it very simple for you; your original post.

1. The highlighted part isn't a question.
2. The onus is on you to show us what this is based on.

Now, show us all what/where you've got this from or simply admit you pulled it from thin air to deflect from the fact you were losing ground on another illogical point but needed to go on the offensive.

So there's a recognised long-standing protocol for "most unionist towns and villages" regarding the flying of flags??

Really?

Any link to that?

I find that bizarre. How do they decide if the town is "unionist"? Do they ask someone like yourself who knows the political leanings of every single person and business in the town?

Is there an equivalent for nationalist towns?

"any estates that desire it" Is there a survey? Maybe a friendly dinner party?

Wasn't aware of the protocol. I look forward to the link.

Has the ‘agreement’ previously mentioned morphed into a ‘protocol’?

You did not answer the post. I answered yours, and I educated you with information about Capt Kelly ( of the Irish army), the Arms Trial, the Smithwick tribunal etc. Again I ask you: If departing and former members of the Irish army (inc the elite Irish army Rangers) have in recent times trained a Libyan military group in alleged breaches of UN and EU sanctions, are you seriously claiming it is likely there never was any leakage of information / training to the pIRA?

You also have to answer the question I originally asked  "Can you explain ALL of the reasons the pIRA military knowledge and expertise was far superior to the military knowledge of the loyalist paramilitaries? Was it at least partly because there was (a) greater transfer of knowledge about explosives between Irish army and pIRA than between British army and loyalists (b) more scope for training in certain areas with nod and a wink south of the border - which did happen - than north of the border?"

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/british-and-irish-traded-concerns-over-security-forces-collusion-1.3340552

There was collusion on both sides. However, the only side to try and deny collusion is the republican one.

Repetitive and boring posts will not change this.