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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,316 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    A few years back moderators were advised to look at their stickies and tidy them up. Remove unnecessary ones. Tidy up/update ones that are needed.

    Definitely worth recommending same again 👍🏻

    How many posters ever read any stickies? Other than (even?) the charter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    That makes no sense. A free for all with no rules whatsoever would entirely kill the forum altogether.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Haven't read the whole thread yet but some constructive comments and the usual complaints about mods from those who the mods have the number of dead on.

    Would suggest that the Information for those in need of a little extra help stickie be placed as one in the CA forum and maybe a few others, there is already a similar stickie in the personal issues forum. I know that it is being argued that they take up space but if kept up to date they could provide helpful information for some when they are ready to use it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    hey, it worked for twitter.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,192 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,286 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Unmoderated (or unpoliced) area's almost immediately go straight to Purge



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The only people who want unmoderated forums are those who are used to been rewarded for their bullying behaviour - their opinion isn't worth dirt to reasonable people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    My observation is quite different - those who want/ even demand rigorous moderation are the posters who are trying to control the flow of the thread. And who attempt to bully others off.

    You will generally find others that are of different opinions are more tolerant in fact. Live & let live but we'll disagree philosophy.

    It's a funny characteristic of some of those who feel they are sidelined in society and who seek tolerance, that they themselves can be very intolerant.

    I'm not specifically referring to you here in case you think I am, but to a notable trend among a good many.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As has been shown many times it's not about the ideas which can be presented in a civil fashion - it's about the behaviour which is bullying and haranguing which needs moderating.

    I am quite happy to disagree with someone if they can do it with civility. For some people intimidating behaviour is so natural that they can't even see they are indulging in it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Vinegartom


    I think it has been mentioned before but I think it would be beneficial to not delete posts that receive a warning/ thread ban and so on. Deleting the post means that someone else will likely make the same “mistake” later on in the thread, which means that the mods will have to intervene again which causes for work for them.

    The frequent deletion of posts also makes it often impossible to argue a case in dispute resolution because all context has been obliterated. Some people mentioned perceived favouritism and heavy handed moderation against other posters, and I think not deleting posts would help to clear things up.

    Some other people mentioned that it’s difficult to know what can be said about public figures or countries at times. The same applies to some heavy traffic threads like the Russia Ukraine one. Some of the stuff posted on the thread is truly horrific and all chatter rules, but it looks like it is tolerated whereas the same behaviour would be infracted in another thread. This inconsistency does not help as posters don’t know what is permissible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭TokTik


    And if you don’t adhere religiously to the groupthink in those threads, you’re banned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Slightly off topic but what are those "points" I can see in my profile never saw them before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,192 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    the number of Thanks received, as far as I can tell.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 27,064 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    That used to be easier to have it so, as vbulletin added a note on an infracted post. With Vanilla, it does show a message that the user was warned for it, but it's only visible to mods, who often don't realise that the normal users can't see it. So it takes manual editing of the offending post to add a publicly visible note from the mod.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    This is definitely an issue.

    Reported posts seem to go off into the ethersphere. It's very hard to see what if any action is taken. It gives the impression, perhaps falsely that a) the behaviour is acceptable and b) it falls on deaf ears.

    There is next to no transparency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,505 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I agree more comms from mods on actioned posts would be good, especially where that will inform other posters of thread\forum standards.

    But if someone has been sanctioned for insults or other such content, that can't be left on the thread either. Ideally edited to remove that with an explanatory comment from mod but if not feasible then deleted.

    If it is a blatant re-reg troll, the posts need to be nuked.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I was wondering what the story with the two post counts was as well.

    "The robin in the garden,

    That was me,

    I'm still here, Loving you..

    Until we meet again. "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,657 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I vaguely remember from feedback it's to do with threads you start rather than just commenting on a thread started by someone else. I'm open to correction on that though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Or perhaps more likely a record of the number of your posts deleted? So you have 100 removed?

    If so, some posters have impressive numbers, war scars like :)

    I see my disparity is just 8.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,192 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I thought it was explained once as pre and post Vanilla, or something to do with the changeover.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,533 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The difference is, as mentioned by @Leg End Reject - the higher number included Opening Posts of threads started by the user, the lower number does not.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 37,222 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    So you've started around 5,000 threads - showoff!!



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,316 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Was coming to say this

    Higher number = threads started + all other comments.

    Lower number = just comments (not including threads started.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,192 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    …..



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,316 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Threads started also include reported posts.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,657 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    whoopppeeeee!!


    my post count is about to skyrocket!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Milominderbender


    Current affairs is an anti-Russian circle jerk. I got banned for questioning why Ireland is making enemies with a country thousands of miles away at the behest of our actual enemy who still occupies part of our homeland. If you keep banning discussions on a discussion site of course it's going to die.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    I’m curious as to why a second anti Israel discussion is needed given that there’s one already ?



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