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Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,210 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The child free by choice forum is dead because there's only so much you can say about not having kids.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That was my take. The brigading of the place by people obsessed with condemning childfree people didn't help but ultimately, yeah, there's not much you can say about not having children.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Can you link me to the comment where I called you a eugenicist?

    I also reject the comment that I abused people. Not one of my posts was infracted in that forum. Not one.

    The forum is hoping, is it?

    Or is it dead?

    If its dead, why is that?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Christ, there's a lot of that here, I just didnt know ot had a name.

    Just to clarify, I don't specifically mean this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I think it's a reflection though of poor modding decisions that ultimately kill a forum.

    The soccer forum is similar, as are others. Remember the poker forum? That caused a huge split back in the day, that almost killed the site.

    It appears that a lot of mods like a quiet forum, it makes their job easier, but that then just kills the site slowly and surely.

    I am not saying modding a forum or a site is easy, it is hard, but some mods see their forum as their own personal fiefdom where they will engage in the day-to-day chat and debate, but will happily use and abuse its power for wrongthink.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    To a point true, but then why was it opened and why does it remain open?

    This is true for all forums that are dead. Just close them if there is no engagement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    100%

    I seem to remember that soapboxing is NOT allowed, but it's apparent that in some active threads, there is a small but dedicated set of posters who will endlessly post all day, day in day out, in the most banal way about a topic.

    What ends up happening is that the posts dive in quality, and the select few just end up ruining the thread.





  • I still reckon it’s dead because those who strongly advocated the set up eventually found partners and had kids! Most of the initial contributors were singletons hiding behind the not wanting to have kids as the reason for not being able to find a partner. It worked out for them in the end.





  • a bug bearer for me is stickies. This very section has 10 stickies half of which haven’t been updated in over a year. How many of these are even still useful or contain correct or up to date are information? Common theme in a lot of forums which in turn take up too much real estate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    if you click the little gear/cog icon and select ‘Dismiss’ they should drop down until posted in like a regular thread.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,553 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    A few years back moderators were advised to look at their stickies and tidy them up. Remove unnecessary ones. Tidy up/update ones that are needed.

    Definitely worth recommending same again 👍🏻

    How many posters ever read any stickies? Other than (even?) the charter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    That makes no sense. A free for all with no rules whatsoever would entirely kill the forum altogether.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Haven't read the whole thread yet but some constructive comments and the usual complaints about mods from those who the mods have the number of dead on.

    Would suggest that the Information for those in need of a little extra help stickie be placed as one in the CA forum and maybe a few others, there is already a similar stickie in the personal issues forum. I know that it is being argued that they take up space but if kept up to date they could provide helpful information for some when they are ready to use it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,210 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    hey, it worked for twitter.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,210 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,993 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Unmoderated (or unpoliced) area's almost immediately go straight to Purge



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The only people who want unmoderated forums are those who are used to been rewarded for their bullying behaviour - their opinion isn't worth dirt to reasonable people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    My observation is quite different - those who want/ even demand rigorous moderation are the posters who are trying to control the flow of the thread. And who attempt to bully others off.

    You will generally find others that are of different opinions are more tolerant in fact. Live & let live but we'll disagree philosophy.

    It's a funny characteristic of some of those who feel they are sidelined in society and who seek tolerance, that they themselves can be very intolerant.

    I'm not specifically referring to you here in case you think I am, but to a notable trend among a good many.



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As has been shown many times it's not about the ideas which can be presented in a civil fashion - it's about the behaviour which is bullying and haranguing which needs moderating.

    I am quite happy to disagree with someone if they can do it with civility. For some people intimidating behaviour is so natural that they can't even see they are indulging in it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Vinegartom


    I think it has been mentioned before but I think it would be beneficial to not delete posts that receive a warning/ thread ban and so on. Deleting the post means that someone else will likely make the same “mistake” later on in the thread, which means that the mods will have to intervene again which causes for work for them.

    The frequent deletion of posts also makes it often impossible to argue a case in dispute resolution because all context has been obliterated. Some people mentioned perceived favouritism and heavy handed moderation against other posters, and I think not deleting posts would help to clear things up.

    Some other people mentioned that it’s difficult to know what can be said about public figures or countries at times. The same applies to some heavy traffic threads like the Russia Ukraine one. Some of the stuff posted on the thread is truly horrific and all chatter rules, but it looks like it is tolerated whereas the same behaviour would be infracted in another thread. This inconsistency does not help as posters don’t know what is permissible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭TokTik


    And if you don’t adhere religiously to the groupthink in those threads, you’re banned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Slightly off topic but what are those "points" I can see in my profile never saw them before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    the number of Thanks received, as far as I can tell.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,062 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    That used to be easier to have it so, as vbulletin added a note on an infracted post. With Vanilla, it does show a message that the user was warned for it, but it's only visible to mods, who often don't realise that the normal users can't see it. So it takes manual editing of the offending post to add a publicly visible note from the mod.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    This is definitely an issue.

    Reported posts seem to go off into the ethersphere. It's very hard to see what if any action is taken. It gives the impression, perhaps falsely that a) the behaviour is acceptable and b) it falls on deaf ears.

    There is next to no transparency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,360 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I agree more comms from mods on actioned posts would be good, especially where that will inform other posters of thread\forum standards.

    But if someone has been sanctioned for insults or other such content, that can't be left on the thread either. Ideally edited to remove that with an explanatory comment from mod but if not feasible then deleted.

    If it is a blatant re-reg troll, the posts need to be nuked.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I was wondering what the story with the two post counts was as well.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I vaguely remember from feedback it's to do with threads you start rather than just commenting on a thread started by someone else. I'm open to correction on that though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Or perhaps more likely a record of the number of your posts deleted? So you have 100 removed?

    If so, some posters have impressive numbers, war scars like :)

    I see my disparity is just 8.



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