Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Local authorities already have the power to check up how a household disposes of waste.

Some have followed up on this and demand to see your bin contract or receipts from a civic amenity site.

Of course that doesn't sort out the issue of the man with a van clearing out sheds.

Imagine if you lived on an island, and had to get a boat, then bus it to a shop 😉

For those who are having issues with storing bottles/etc before going back to the shop - how many bottles/cans do you go through?

My son lives with his mother in a part of Cork that has dodgy water from time to time, so she buys plenty of bottled water. She has a bag for life in a cupboard that she fills up and brings back when full. I have a bag in the boot of my car.

Now I know we're in the city, so plenty of choice for rvms, but we're not swamped in cans/bottles either.

As for somebody questioning the stats of usage due to their anecdotal evidence that nobody is using the machines near them, I can confirm that I've seen loads use them. There's a centra up the road from me that has their rvm just inside a door, which is a bit annoying when someone is using it, and I've had to wait a few times because somebody was using it. I was in tesco the other night and 2 people were getting rid of a load of stuff (big black bags) and there was a queue behind them. I was in another tesco 2 weeks ago and the machines were full due to use (they were emptying them while I was shopping).

So they are being used and it's not a major inconvenience for myself or my ex anyway.

In Czechia, if you rent and are working, as part of your PAYE taxes, you pay a metropolitan tax, which pays for waste removal. I'm assuming a sliver of ones property tax is used if you own a property too. The bin gets collected every 3 days, and if you put something anything in, or next to the bin it gets collected, even the old mattress, or dead washing machine etc.

I said earlier in the thread, instead of trying to fix a problem that actually didnt exist, they should have looked at waste disposal first.

Similar set up in Manchester funded by Council Tax.

They have a free bring area where you can get rid of pretty much anything.

I agree with you that we need another look at general waste disposal but I don't see it as an either or.

We can do it and the bottles and cans.

Just back from skerries. Never seen howth junktion so clean on st patrick's day. Uses to be full of bottles and cans. Deposit should have introduced years ago.....

As I have said repeatedly on this thread, I get 90% of my groceries delivered and don't drive. What could happen to my green bin so that its contents do not get recycled that could not happen to an RVM?

Sadly I suspect all the things you say that could not happen to an RVM could happen to one, but me proving thus would be considered criminal damage.

it would be nice and conveinent if there was a local person in your area who goes around every few days collecting all the depositable containers from you and other residents in the area (or just from you) and pays a small percentage of the deposits to you on the spot for your containers so you get a bit of moneyback there and then, then he/she goes to an rvm and gets to keep the profit from the deposits. How does that sound?

everyones a winner

I saw that after June 1, all cans/bottles have to have the new logo. Is there any mention of imported cans/bottles, such as US soft drink cans or drinks from afar from shops such as Asian Supermarkets? I doubt all of them would ever be compliant.

This situation was covered by Mr.Foley, the CEO of Return in the run up to launching this ill thought out scheme.

He commiserated and advised the public to phone his office and they would arrange to collect your returnable goods and pay you back deposits presumably.

So get onto him and demand he holds to his word. If nothing happens get onto local councillors and TDs and tell them to light a fire under him. Tell them this is an elections issue for you, neighbours and any family & friends.

You've sort of proved my point.

What can happen to recyclables in a green bin to render them unusable can be due to carelessness or poor understanding.

In an RVM someone would need to go out of their way.

I kinda wonder if there's a boards bottler type in the world of green bin collection who is making a mint from this whole charade:-)

Well my son and I get through approx 12 500ml cans a day and have always been putting them in a separate spare wheely bin that the green bin men collect along with our regular green bin.

So running up to this we had loads of un barcoded cans just sitting there.

Not anymore all labeled up and gone so I'm well ahead and don't mind throwing the odd reject in the bin in future.

He commiserated and advised the public to phone his office and they would arrange to collect your returnable goods and pay you back deposits presumably.

You know he didn't say they would arrange to collect individuals returnables. You keep pushing it, but it's not what he said.