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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What dodgy stuff is Nate at ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭squonk


    Yeah I felt the episode dragged. I actually thought I’d missed an episode when they mentioned Nate had left West Ham. It just seems there’s too much going on and it’s way too spaced out but, at the same time they don’t go into enough depth. I did love the Roy and his niece scenes.

    It feels like that from a writing perspective they were at P but have 3 episodes to get to Z so they’re just throwing it all in. The show feels disjointed as a result.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wife and I went back to the menu to make sure we hadn't missed an episode.


    I kinda hoped that Roy and Ruth Bradley's teacher character would get together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭squonk


    Same. I’m not really sure what the point of the teacher is/was now. I thought it was headed towards them getting together or at least a fling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I was expecting that that too because they seem like a good match in personality but I then that would make it less funny than Roy and Keeley who are very much opposites.



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    I honestly see Jamie and Keeley as a better match, at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,995 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That was a LONG episode. Felt bloated.

    And far too many stories going on, too many sad and emotional bits.

    And what is it with Nates hair, so unrealistic.

    Is that the final episode?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Felt this season was a bit flat. A lot of bottle episode stories that felt simultaneously pointless but did work for some character growth... just disconnected from the main plots. Wasn't as funny as previous seasons and a good few of the meaty emotional bits that season 1 and 2 were so good at felt a bit forced, as though it was trying to out-emote what had come before. I also felt Ted was a backseat character for much of the season. I found the resolution to Nate's arc incredibly rushed in the end with the off screen resignation. While the scenes at the house were sweet, the whole violin bit was too forced. Aesthecticaly wonderful, combined with Rebecca's speech but it just felt so random and like I was being manipulated into feeling "oh he can play a sad song on the violin, he's redeemed". Similarly Keely and Roy getting back to together just felt meh.... started the season broken up off screen because "vague reasons"... didn't do much... season was ending so they got back together.

    Despite the above, there was lots of good stuff though. This was Rebecca's season. Every scene she was in was gold. Jamie and Roy were also gold together. Colin's arc was well played (though the captain being all upset was overplayed and obvious). Keeley had a decent season too. While the breakup with Roy felt pointless, it did free her up to go down the road she did.

    Very mixed season overall. Hard to say if it's best off leaving it at that with some of the threads left up to the audience to decide how they played out (do Nate and Ted reconcile, do Rebecca and Ted get together), or go another season and hope it goes back to season 1 and 2 glory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Oh right... thought it was 10 episodes and that really felt like a season ender. Ok... hope it goes out with a bang!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Fairly meh again.

    Does a club manager really announce who is on international duty that way? Wouldn't have thought so.

    I really liked how the Nate story played out last week - so it's disappointing to see him reduced to a mopey teenager for most of this episode. Also don't understand what they're doing with Rupert, painting him as a big evil, but then humanising him, and then having him making weird advances at Rebecca? All just weird, especially with Nate's departure not being shown.

    Roy and Keely? Could take it or leave it, but feel like Jamie and Keely is a more interesting match because of how they've grown over three seasons.

    Rebecca is great to watch. Always entertaining, but I do struggle to summarise what's actually going on with her this season. Between the psychic, her seat at the big boys table (all old white men) regarding the Super League, and her romance with the Dutch lad. It's all just a bit disconnected.

    Also, anyone remember Ted? He was in the first two seasons and had some good storylines. Must have been scheduling conflicts this time around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭squonk


    Forgot about the Dutch lad. So what was the point of that now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    They wanted to give Rebecca a romance story and had no viable options within the existing cast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    I think there is no doubt that this is the final season now with how the episode ended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Very good episode this week all things considered. Beard and Nate's scene was terrific, as was Ted & his mother. The Jamie stuff was good, but would have been better if they'd done it a few episodes ago instead of some of the other superfluous stories they did, as it was another long episode this week.

    So for the finale, we still have a lot to get through. Roy & Keeley, Trent's book or whatever he's doing, does Colin publicly come out, Nate's return, Rupert's comeuppance or whatever Becs and the other woman showing up to Rebecca's house was about, Rebecca's psychic's predictions, Van Damme possibly (they've given him a lot of attention for someone who is just 'there'), Ted presumably leaving, what will Beard do....

    Man, next week's episode is going to be longer than The Irishman....



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    How does a show with bloated run time episodes still feel rushed towards the end goal?

    The road to the finale feels so rushed as did Nate’s redemption arc. Goes from West Ham manager to Richmond coach in 2 episodes. The entire team forgives him that easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    I think them forgiving him so easily is down to the culture Ted has created in the team. They forgave Jamie for leaving for Man City after a while, they also probably think something bad happened to Nate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Given that Higgins was reporting to Ted about it, I'm presuming Ted had already spoken to the team about welcoming Nate back and had arranged for them to approach Nate about it. But then Beard seemed so vehemently against it that it seemed odd it hadn't already been agreed with them beforehand.

    Another case where a scene about that would have been far more beneficial than Van Damme changing his name, or the team not being able to decide what to do in Holland, or Rebecca with the guy who was never mentioned again in Holland, or Higgins and yer man going to the jazz club in Holland (pretty much the entire Holland episode bar Roy learning to ride a bike), or probably half the other stuff that happened this season that just didn't need to happen.

    Edit: I just remembered about Zarla or whatever his name was. So much time spent on it, and meant absolutely nothing. Important scenes about Nate for the entire season just skipped over.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Ted didn’t know anything about the team discussing Nate or that Nate was now a waiter. He found out they wanted him back when Higgins told him in the office.

    I hope Georgie and Simon come back if the story continues in a different series as that talk with Dotty and the final scene make it clear we are in the final episodes now.

    I like the positivity of the show but regardless of whatever illness or health issue Jamie’s father now has it is a bit hard to believe his brief scene. I don’t think they should have shown him or his buddies - Jamie has stopped carrying that burden and it would have meant more for us to be as unaware as he is what has become of his father.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    For whatever reason this week’s episode looked like absolute crap on my TV - like the wrong version had been uploaded. The colour correction would jump wildly from shot to shot - from dark and grubby one shot to bright and overlit the next. It was seriously distracting, and happened throughout the entire episode. I tried to change my HDR settings and same issue - there seems to be other people online having the same problem too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    What device do you have the TV app on and what time was it?

    I have an AppleTV 4K and started watching around 9:30 pm and it was perfect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I meant to say in my previous post - the “extended footage” from the CCTV showing what Nate did after ripping the Believe poster makes sense for his character but feels like a last minute decision by the writers.

    Also it means the few moments nasty spitting Nate this season make even less sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'm pretty sure Jamie's father was in rehab, a sign of how he's changed from his last encounter with Jamie (there was a poster on the wall beside the TV that said "Progress, not Perfection"). The shot of his friends with whiskey flasks, but then a cut to him in rehab because he's trying to get better to mend his relationship with Jamie and his drinking was a big part of the problem. Something we likely won't see in the show but gives promise for the future.

    Yeah I have to agree. Felt really last minute and a way to make Nate more sympathetic and in need of help. But it was overkill and really ruined the drama of what Nate did at the end of last season. Not to mention I'm pretty sure Nate & Ted's argument happened at half time, which means Nate hung around for about 50 minutes, then tore the sign, then the team came into the dressing room after winning. Doesn't really fit well. They could have done something like showing Nate breaking down after tearing up the sign to show how conflicted he was, how maybe he regretted what he'd done in the aftermath but felt there was no way back.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Watched around 8.30pm last night on an LG CX.

    Checked on my phone there out of curiosity and it seems fine. Whereas watching last night was a constant distraction because of the extreme lighting changes 🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    My LG C1 has occasionally changed its own settings, possibly after software updates, where on stuff like Netflix or Disney+ it will start automatically adjusting the brightness of the screen. It may have changed from whatever Picture settings you previously had.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I changed the HDR settings out of curiosity and it was still causing the same issues. It almost had to be the source file - the colour correction was far too cleanly changing from shot to shot - but maybe limited to certain devices. Oh well!

    Anyway, the episode itself was fine, just with the same issues as the whole season: obvious destinations, unconvincing or unearned paths there. It’s certainly quite remarkable that with episodes getting closer and closer to feature length every week, that somehow things still come across as rushed and underexplored.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The episodes are getting longer but the editing is more indulgent. Did we need 5 minutes of Roy-Ley following Jamie, the extended Nate under the table etc.

    Previous seasons would have had them get the same message across in seconds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm guessing Ted's going back to the states at the end of the season with Nate taking over. Would that be a strong enough spin off ?

    Still a bit puzzled by the writers regarding Nate and West Ham. Could easily wrote a few scenes showing him resign in person etc



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Richmond AFC should be the name of the spin off if any, they have such an ensemble cast that all need to shine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I kinda hope it's done and dusted at the end of this season. As much as I really like most of the actors and characters, they're largely becoming quite repetitive and one-note, and manufacturing stories for some of them (breaking up Roy and Keeley for no good reason to get them back together).

    It's looking like most of the characters story arcs have or will be completed by the end of the season. Nate found his self worth, Beard will likely stay at Richmond after Ted leaves because he's less dependent on Ted to be his "family", Jamie's arc is finished, Roy & Keeley probably back together, Ted will return to America having won the Premier League but to be with his son. Biggest unknown is probably Rebecca.

    They've already started running out of steam this season and were probably trying to fit as much in as possible because they weren't planning on doing more. Better to end it at this stage.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I've rewatched the scene between Beard and Nate a few times. As much as I didn't like the setup of it (the extended video of Nate hiding under the desk), the scene between the two of them is just majestic. Little sprinkles of comedy in it ("Stealing a loaf of meth"), the stoic and near motionless delivery from Beard but culminating in a single tear rolling down his cheek, and the hug which although it could feel like Beard was just forgiving Nate because it would be what Ted wanted, that hug was so genuine and really shows Beard's own affection for Nate. Add to that the fact we never got nor needed the backstory of Beard and Ted before, but is just placed so perfectly in the story here.

    Such a terrific scene.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Pep won't be giving up the day job for acting anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭squonk


    Sorry but I find Nate to be poorly written. He’s grotesquely unbelievable, especially now. Aside from the intense shyness which wouldn’t have gotten him barely inside the door of a locker room, there’s the fact he’s ‘supposedly’ the boy genius of the premiership so when he quits he’s not instantly hounded by paps and more surprisingly, he hasn’t an agent or there aren’t clubs from anywhere hounding him tI join them. Then the Richmond lads show uP after he’s been pining for the place and once Beard gives the blessing, he’s back in. I know he’s been on a journey and grown, but come on!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭JimboJones99


    One thing that always amazes me about comments in this thread is the constant reference to the show not being believable. Its a show about an American Football College coach who ends up managing a Premier League club, whose kitman ends up being a tactical genius.

    I think they set their stall out from the very beginning!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Had the exact same problem. Scenes going from bright to almost a grubby dark when the camera switched.

    I'm also using an LG tv (c9) and noticed it a bit before on Apple shows but never this bad. The app updated last week so might be related. It also seems to have introduced ads before shows.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The ads before shows will make me cancel. I'm paying to not have ads.

    I'm already about to hoist the Jolly Roger with Netflix and their crap, what's one more?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭squonk


    No ads for me on an Apple TV with the Apple One subscription but if they start that I’ll be very PO’d.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I should say that it's been an ad for one of their own TV shows and I could skip it but doesn't change the fact it's annoying.



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    It's pure dipping the toes. They'll push further



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Scene with ted and his mother brought a tear to my eye, really felt his pain. The bomb shell is obviously its his last season.


    Who were the two women who called to Rebecca's house?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    New Becks and the assistant Rupert was trying to crack on to. Rebecca threatened him about her



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Thought as much, cheers. Will anything come out if that? Only thing i can see is ti further redeem Nate



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    If it’s truly the last season I imagine it’s all leading to Rupert getting his comeuppance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭adaminho


    It all feels very rushed this season but I'm enjoying it nonetheless. Loved Coach Beard's Roy Kent Fuuuuck!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I'm still holding out that we'll see the Nate vs Rupert flashback in the finale. I refuse to believe such a pivotal scene is entirely off screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,479 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Seems its not showing until 9pm Pacific time, so that'd be like 5am here



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