They could both resign effective immediately. Fabian especially!

State that this committee is nothing more than a pro-format motion the minister has to do to give a pretence of consulting with affected parties,but has already decided the course of legislation,and that the make-up of this committee is, in reality, ONE Vs 2 govt bodies and 2 hand-picked ministerial /political plants.

There is no accountability on how the Minister chose these two,[apart from needing a controllable and tame opposition] and a loaded chair, there is no job interview for three paid positions on a Govt body... [Be interesting what the public accounts committee might have to say about such]And one person will be the Fall guy here and considered the Judas goat by the shooting community if this goes any worse.

This is the time to hit the ejector seat handle for our side and bail out!

So the only option now is, as no doubt the new minister will just deflect it back to Browne as his baby. Will be a high court judicial review of the legislation when it is enacted. Nice and expensive and will fatten a few barristers and other legal types already bulging wallets.IF our organisations will, of course, be bothered looking after such an issue.

It also shows what a bunch of paper tigers represent us.Despite having a seat in the most expensive kindergarten in Europe. AKA The Senad.

Where is this Firearms Users Representative Group[ FURG] that is supposedly representing us all again? Nothing since June last year in their announcement that amounted to basically "We are mad that the minister didn't invite us to his party. So we are gonna get a gang together and demand he invite us.Cos we are the BIG boys!"🙄 You wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry anymore.

At least we know who to blame, and also who not to vote for in the next general election.

Indeed ,ourselves for our apathy and indifference as it is the usual "FU I'm alright Jack!" attitude and is there any guarantee that any alternative parties are going to be more pro-gun than this shower? Esp those that have a connection to 35 years of political violence?They could hardly say they want to liberalise firearms laws without getting massive political backlash.

As Pat Rabbite[LAB] famously said "Shure you'd say anything in an election to get a vote!"

That was a Dail public comittee hearing.Mark and Gunhappy.ie were chosen to represent or comment on the situation by their submissions,by then minister of state David Stanton. The vid is still available on YT and on the FUNI webpage. I still have Marks written submission,it is still one of the better 24 page submissions on the firearms situation in Ireland.

SCUTTLEBUTT and RUMOUR. TREAT AS SUCH UNTIL VERIFIED BY ANOTHER RELIABLE SOURCE!!!

Rumour has it that both of the pro-gun reps of the FEC committee might have both resigned effective immediately today.

OTOH IF both of our sides resigned and were drawing public taxpayers' money, with no discernable results and questionable employment by the junior minister...is there a case for the Dail public accounts committee to investigate this? Esp if for appearance's sake another two mugs are going to be hauled in and employed in the same dubious manner? This is now such a toxic soup anyone sane, even from the big organisations should run farrrr away from this.

They have had this power since the 1925 act in some shape or form.

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