Deep space 9 revisited

One problem with making an arc storyline back then was seasons were 24 episodes long.

If the final few seasons of DS9 were made now with a 12 episode season they would be much better.

Personally I wasn't a fan of things like a holodeck romp in the middle of a series about a war.

At the time I just sighed once I realized that after waiting all week I got a filler episode.

He was grand as a very bit character but should have stayed that way. Didn't think s7 was a good place to be exploring new characters given the storyline.

His one real quality moment is being the scene for Nogs escapism in that one episode.

There was a stupid side quest about Ezri's dodgy family too which is always a skip for me. I liked Ezri but again s7 is a bit late to be caring about this sht.

Ezri had the potential to be a decent character, but far too little time was available to flesh her out. They tried and fair play to them, but I don't think they got there.

What often stuck out to me as an obvious indicator of character depth / development was when Worf & Ezri became delirious after interrogation by the Breen. Worf's character could call back on references from his past in DS9, where as the best they could come up with for Ezri were a smattering of references to the 2 episodes that focused on her. It was clear that was all they had to work on. Similarly, her finale-montage in the ending sequences was obviously very light compared to all of the stuff we got to see with the rest of the DS9 cast in their montage. I get that of course she's main cast...but that was after 6 years of another Dax. She needed at least another season to cement her there I feel.

If they weren't going to use the Bajoran religion to show how gullible and naïve the whole idea of faith in a deity or deities is (which would, in fairness, have destroyed their ratings in large swathes of religious America - and beyond), they shouldn't have included it at all.

Not for long :)

"War is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror" has been a saying for at least a century.

I think they originally wanted Frank Sinatra Jr for that role because he was a massive Star Trek fan but he'd only do Star Trek if he could be an alien so they kept the lounge stuff and hired James Darren.

Worf becomes an eco-terrorist and tries to kill his own brother, then wipes his memory.

Sabotages the weather grid on Risa cos he's fighting with Jadzia

One for the Keiko haters

So who here knows who was the very first person to destroy a Jem Hedar ship while in Control of the navigation controls and weapons on the Defiant?

I just watched it today again.

Dax?

The Chief?

Bashir pops into my head for some reason... I remember him on the bridge of the Defiant during a Jem Hadar attack.

Dr Bashir was also present in the first battle with the Jem'Hadar too, who fired the first shot?

The USS Odyssey destroyed the first Jem'Hadar ship because they were rammed

Really? I felt there's a fair share of episodes I'd consider quite decent for a Season 1 outing there. Duet is a remarkable episode, definitely the highlight of the season for me.

Babel, Captive Pursuit, The Passenger, Move Along Home (yep I enjoyed it), The Nagus, Vortex, The Storyteller, Progress, If Wishes were Horses (again for a season 1 Ep, it's far from the worst), Duet (brilliant)

Star Trek of that era used to be weak enough when only starting out, DS9 is no different. In the broader view of it all though, the filler episodes really helped add to and develop the characters, which paid off when the show would hit its stride.

I found season 1 to be an awful chore to be honest. I only persisted with it as the reviews of later seasons were so good. I didn't really start enjoying the show until towards the end of season 2 when the Maquis and Dominion elements were introduced.

I’m in a similar boat, although I do warm up to the season in more recent viewings. I kind of appreciate more the risk they we’re taking with a series that was mostly based on a non-Starfleet station, focusing on Bajor picking up right after decades of Cardassian occupation, only poky little Runabouts to travel in meaning our heroes were often outgunned (a major change from TNG) and possibly the start of a sense of the end of Starfleet’s “golden era” of unrivalled supremacy.

It was a gamble, a massive one, if you were like me back in the day I only gave DS9 the time of day when TNG ended, making it the only remaining Trek show near Federation space. (Voyager starts with DS9 S3, right after TNG). That happened to correspond with S2 ending with the JemHadar destroying a Galaxy Class, almost symbolically saying “The safety of TNG is gone…now sh*t just got real”

Follow that up with the Defiant & the adoption of the Generations Comm-Badge and DS9 was now a new style of mid-90s Trek that I got into. But back in S1 & S2 it had the look and feel of a budget TNG show that was more of a side quest than the main event. But those 2 seasons for what they were, were well done.

Agreed on both counts here. Brooks had a powerful screen presence, and brought real weight to the screen. I thought Visitor did a great job conveying the weight of the Occupation, distrust and eventual trust of Starfleet, and so on.