Nvidia RTX Discussion

Holy hell my card could be getting delivered tomorrow lol

Cannot wait

Nice enjoy upload some photos when you get it.

I probably try get a 4080 16Gb or 7800 xt sometime next year.

Tbh as long as you can think of it as a titan card the cost is acceptable, they where always 1k - 2k. It's the 4080s that are more egregious, particularly the 4070 pretending to be one but at a more expensive MSRP than a 3080.

The dies don't even seem that big in the cards, from what I've seen the coolers extend around 30% if not more past the end of the die. The aio versions or sticking them on a loop have a genuine use case now other than bling

The 4080 will have 450w+ of cooling too? That's crazy, 250w will probably be plenty of power to get good performance.

If that's the case how have modders gotten it to work on a 2070 🤷‍♂️ surely that doesn't have the special hardware. No doubt Nvidia will do something with drivers to stop people from doing this in the future.

https://appuals.com/dlss-3-0-works-with-turing-ampere/

I mean if you want to believe Nvidia wouldn't pretend it's hw locked (aka shady ****) in order to sell cards that's up to you but imo it's just bullshit made to make people upgrade from 2xxx and 3xxx series GPUs, if a 2080 or 3080 could use dlss 3 it would make the new cards a whole lot less interesting for people.

Cool, I'm not going to argue with you, I'm not a pc hardware/software engineer and I haven't deep dived into these new cards. Maybe your right 🤷‍♂️ all I know is when it comes to being upfront and consumer focused I don't trust Nvidia in the slightest anymore.

The argument with the 1xxx series was that they didn't have the tensor cores that the 2xxx series brought, granted the 4xxx series has updated tensor cores, but they are still tensor cores. Will be interesting to see if modders get it working well on older GPUs.

DLSS 3 looks like hot garbage.

Yeah, but you can get a 10% FPS increase in most any setup by fiddling with quality/performance settings.

I've heard rumours that Nvidia know that DLSS 3 isn't really ready yet but ran out of time before the 40 series launch. Probably hoping that the insane rates from the 4090 would disguise the complete garbage coming out in the interpolated frames.

My $.02 on the power vs heat vs monstrous AIB cooling solutions is that the card originally was going to try to run at 600W max and a few factors caused them to to pull back. The obvious being the glut of 3x cards, which is why they are releasing the 4090 first since it is so massively ahead in performance, wheres the 4080 / 4070 won't have as big of a differentiator when matched directly in the current market, if they boost it even higher the lower 4x cards will look even worse. The other being the lack of ATX3 supplies and the prevalance of 850W and below even in most highend gaming rigs so there's an associated cost there above the card itself if that's a hard requirement. Lastly the energy crisis will make the TCO higher and more prevalent in people's minds also. AIBs did not spend all of that extra money on those coolers, and the knowledge they simply may not fit in end users cases and thus prohibit even more sales, thinking they wouldn't be needed. I think if not by end of this then early next year we'll see updated BIOS and perhaps base card designs that will unlock higher voltages (a key limiter derbauer saw) and those insane coolers will start to make more sense. For now even if it still shows voltage locked I would go with a card that openly claims to be tuned for up to 600W as the underlying power delivery is more likely to just be soft-locked (and upgradable later) if this turns out to be true.

For myself I'm waiting for a good AIO cooled card. I have a large well venitated case with an 420 AIO on the CPU and bottom-intake/top-outtake fans purely for the GPU flow, and that handles a 3090 adequately but it'd be nice to not have to worry about dumping that 450-600W of heat into the case regardless and just pipe it directly out. With the increased heat output of basic MBD components and SSD heat throttling being a thing, and going to be more of a factor with PCIE5 drives, it should help with overall system performance regardless of any actual OC improvement on the GPU.