Nvidia RTX Discussion

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hahaha

I think they are already gone on Caseking

harmless

Are Nvidia holding back stock or did they under price the 4090?

Many of the site selling it are unreachable for me. It's preventing me from looking for a 3080.

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I think caseking website has crashed

TheChrisD

Like, I literally took ten seconds to read the fine print to notice that the UK FE site specifically says "only available for shipping to UK / IRELAND" and they sold out.

Kirby

The TUF version is still in stock on Caseking if somebody wants one quick.

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734643#Comment_119734643

AFAIK it redirects you to scan.co.uk and then you can't checkout unless you have a UK address.

So if you planned to put in an Irish address it wouldn't work anyway.

Headshot

What did everyone get?

I got the MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X

The reviews are coming out now

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x-review,31.html

Lumen

I only wanted the FE, and I missed it! Saved from myself. :-)

harmless

Did Nvidia time it so people won't have time to see the AIB reviews before ordering an FE?

minitrue

lol on overclockers on the couple of cards I checked: "Sold to UK only due to high demand."

They still had stock of 11 cards from £1760 for a Inno3D to £2,369.99 for a Gigabyte Aorus when I checked as I started looking maybe 25 minutes ago and I just refreshed and they are all still there (but MSI Gaming X trio says limited stock).

4 cards in stock on caseking from the €2149 Inno3d to €2529 for an Asus ROG Strix.

Nothing in stock on the nvidia store for Germany or the UK though the US one says "Coming Soon" so I was going to say perhaps they haven't released them yet but seems from comments above those are sold out already?

TheChrisD

Bloody hell OCUK, like we know you guys are twats and all that but... this is taking the piss.

Mr Crispy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734386#Comment_119734386

Their site says they do that, but I've seen some Irish customers complain on their forums about not being able to order and the official answer was it's down to a complication due to Brexit - no solution yet blah blah. This was as recently as a couple of weeks ago. Maybe it's item-specific as minitrue says.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734115#Comment_119734115

Maybe plenty was not the right word but I can swear there were more options this morning :) Now it's only the PNY and a Gigabyte which is only 1 cent under 900

Lumen

Apologies if this has been posted already, some might find it useful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/xzphl7/4090s_comparison_chart/

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735112#Comment_119735112

Looks my 850W will be okay, phew

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734982#Comment_119734982

The PNY is alright at that price, it's just I keep hearing about all these 3000 series that need to be shifted but I don't see them.

wotzgoingon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735350#Comment_119735350

They need to be cheaper if there is some needing to be shifted. Madness right now to be paying nearly MRSP this late into their generation and then also newest and best out as well.

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735277#Comment_119735277

Those system power requirements seem really arbitrary and difficult to reason about.

I have a 12600K which apparently pulls about 225W under full load, but I could be pulling 350W from a 13900K. I'd have thought neither is likely since games are massively multi-threaded, but...

Plus the new PCIe 5.0/ATX 3 power supplies apparently deal with transient loads a lot better than older PSUs.

It doesn't make it any easier that TDP numbers are now completely unreliable.

Lumen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIS4UANcCe4&t=707s

although the recommended gigabyte specification called for a 1000 watt power supply it ran for days under load using our Corsair rm850x without an issue and total system draw even when overclocked was less than 700 Watts which includes the ryzen 7 5800x3d and, well, everything else in the system.

Additionally, on the basis of this one review I don't see the point of the partner cards given that they look worse, take up more space, and don't offer any more performance even when overclocked. Except that you can't actually buy an FE because supply is artificially constrained.

edit: OK, with the exception of the water cooled variants which offer a genuinely different form factor.

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735770#Comment_119735770

I think Nvidia are trying to phase out AIB cards, they give the FE card every advantage they can and take up more market share each generation.

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734749#Comment_119734749

That's not even the worst part. The prices were even higher when you clicked and were redirected to the OCUK site. They change their prices depending on demand just like caseking.

Edit: OCUK yet again sold cards they don't have stock but assure people they will be shipped in November.

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735892#Comment_119735892

OCUK own Caseking so I see a commonality here lol

harmless

About the power consumption of the 4090, apparently you can reduce power to 60%(285 watts) and still retain 90% of the performance.

Any idea why Nvidia went down the route of high power and expensive oversized coolers when there was not much to gain?

Even at 90% performance it would be so far ahead of the 3090ti that demand would be very high.

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736041#Comment_119736041

Source? The benchmarking seems a bit skewed by CPU limitations. Not sure the coolers are oversized, it seems like a much better design than the overdriven, undercooled 3090 variants.

Homelander

I assume most people buying these are looking to play at 4K ultra? If you are a high refresh gamer even at 1440P, in most cases you're going to hit a CPU ceiling even with a higher-end chip.

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736055#Comment_119736055

der8auer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60yFji_GKak&t=968s

Mr Crispy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735946#Comment_119735946

Think it's the other way round? Either way, both rip off merchants these days.

frozenfrozen

Didn't get to buy one today anyway. Had one going through checkout before being stopped because the place didn't ship to Ireland and then they were sold out. 4090 Windforce at €1650ish exvat

minitrue

Regarding the dynamic pricing, I hate to say it but I'm fine with that and would rather someone like overclockers gain margins they can use to actually run their business over fueling the scalpers by selling out to them in 2 seconds at MSRP. I don't think it's in any way ideal but what are the viable alternatives?

This thread today is it's own demonstration that the margins are generally so miniscule that there isn't a single carrier of stock in the country (not just for this, it's very rare in this forum for anyone to ever suggest buying any kind of parts here), though I did just check and see Max Burns claims to have access to 1 Inno3d 4090 iChill for €2245.01 and 2 Inno3d 4090 X3 for €2168.65, but they are both "online orders only - stock ships from the UK" so I don't really think that counts tbh but at least it's clear they will actually ship here :-o

minitrue

As for the power consumption and excessive cards: Someone previously mentioned the rumour that the 600W figure which had been floating around was based on Samsung manufacturing. My conclusion from that would be the cards were then designed/specced for that. Now instead nvidia went with TSMC on an actually leading edge process so are essentially overclocking them out of the box to 450W to attempt to justify the card designs, while it's clear if things had been done more normally it would be a 300W card with the usual small performance overhead available for AIBs and overclockers willing to push it out as far as 450W.

The timing feels bad as nvidia signed with TSMC all the way back in December but otherwise I've a feeling it all adds up and suspect this all might have been a big part of the final bale of hay for EVGA.