Liffey valley to start charging for parking

Pretty harsh on staff who are very much on the lower scale of wages and who may not have taken the job if they can’t drive to it. Liffey Valley is awkward to get to from a fair bit of the (somewhat) local area. It might be a 10-15 minute drive but it could be two bus rides and an hour away.

Again, this move has nothing to do with public transport and everything to do with increasing revenue for the centre owners

But the difference is that it was provided for free since it opened. It’s the equivalent of taking a pay cut to now remove a benefit they have had for years.

Put it another way, how would you feel if your employer decided to stop paying for your private health insurance which a lot of companies do, if it’s something you really want / value then you’ll have to suddenly start paying for it yourself. It’s basically a pay cut in all but name.

Better off retail staff? You’ve lost the plot here. Not for the first time

I started my career in retail and I absolutely loved it so this is not coming from a judgemental place.

There are very few people that commute long distances to work in retail. A lot of managers will specifically hire local as if they need a person in on short notice who isn't rostered to work that day it makes much more sense to have a local pool of staff minutes away.

Unless there's a niche retail unit I'm not aware of in the complex every single store in Liffey valley has another store or multiple stores elsewhere. If the commute is now going to be too long people could request a transfer to another store. It's not like it's a pharma company for example where the next nearest premises is Cork or Galway.

My company announced it was moving premises, business decision, not much you can do ....what did the staff do that the commute was now going to be too long? Sent out cv's and chose somewhere that suited them. Yeah it's sh1t having to leave and start fresh elsewhere especially when not entirely your decision but such is life.

To be fair when I worked in retail the salary bands were very clear , some places even had then on canteen noticeboard.

Year 1 was minimum wage

Year 2 an increase

Year 5 an increase ....it's been a minute so can't remember if there were increases for years 3&4.

Think another increase in Year 10

Long serving staff were on a good wage....if they were working full hours some were probably making more than the managers , who were salaried, on an hour to hour basis.

I can see the 'value' in paying for parking in Dundrum. For €3 I can walk to the car without getting wet in bad weather. I don't need to wear a coat in winter as I won't be outside at all. Additionally there are loads of wheechair spaces (my father uses a wheechair) and a good few EV chargers so I can charge the car while I'm there.

I don't see the value in paying €2.50 for an outdoor space at LV though. Walk up to 500m in the rain and back again. Wheelchair spaces always taken up by people too lazy to walk from a regular space.

I would often pop in for a Butler's when I'm passing, but the extra €2.50 makes that a pretty expensive coffee, so won't be doing that again.

People won’t boycott because it’s not that big a deal. You can choose to avoid if you want but the vast majority of people won’t change a thing (despite the protests of some in here)

Good and state of the art are not necessarily the same thing.

I don't believe there's a state of the art underground transport system in Europe.

True, not necessarily. But some are, the Copenhagen one is even driverless, well the line I used for sure.

The prime spaces close to the doors of every entrance are occupied before 10am.

Most stores don't open until 10am. Staff abused the car parking.

It was always going to have paid parking. It was mooted in 2002.

Staff parking will probably be about €50 a month with a certain number of staff spaces available.

I think I read staff spaces will be €4 per day.