Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Some awful videos on twitter. Just saw one where a bunch of Ukr soldiers come across a Russian soldier beside a ramshackle wall, he looks confused, then one of the UKr guys shout something and they then open fire on the guy and he crumples to the floor.

I wish I hadn't the sound on for that , like someone out of a shooter game but real. Whoever he was, he probably had family back in Russia and they think he's in Ukr liberating them from Nazi's, another pointless death :(

Ukraine also shares the same religion, so I don't think it has anything to do with it. It's probably because they hate the west because of the wars and breakdown of the ex-Yugoslavia - they did act much like the russians back then.

Not so much saying what's he's saying rather why he is saying what he's saying.

Macron post election victory is back to his old self and has apparently dropped any ideas that the Russians are the baddies.

I mean we wouldn't like to "humiliate" a crazed despot such as Putin for an illegal invasion of a sovereign state including ethnic cleansing, war crimes and the destruction of large parts of a country now would we. Meanwhile we'll have to put Ukraine in a new specially created box and keep an eye on it - just in case

Pushing for a Serbia and nothing about pushing for UKr. Is this further showing the Germans as to where they really sit?

I was referring to the wars post 90s in that area, which resulted in atrocities on more than just one side indeed, but the serbs were particularly, let's say, effective. I'm sure they still blame the west for the breakdown and wars and subsequent accusations of war crimes and genocide which brings them closer to the russians.

Ukraine will get some hop if they think they will be allowed join the EU.

But that does not take away that it is a PR stunt. In this thread the gist I have seen is that it is OK to laugh at the Russian PR stunts but not the Ukraine ones? Why? Bringing Bono out - come on.

All I have seen on the internet is PR stunt after PR stunt on both sides. Yet I am supposed to praise Ukraine for theirs? What I find odd is that many Irish people seemed to have only copped on there is war in the world a few months ago. Maybe many are just young and it is all a shock to them or something.

But for the big countries war is just a geopolitical game. International law is meaningless to them. Saw the same with the USA in Afghanistan and Iraq. The same with Russia now all it takes is a pretext.

But if you think Bono going over like a clown at the behest of Zelensky is going to stop people being killed, raped and murdered fair play. I am not naive enough to think Bono is helping with those PR stunts/Propaganda or whatever you want to call it.

Ukraine is only a pawn between two ideologies. Mostly caused by Putin, but the flames were fanned by the USA years ago. In nodding and winking at UkrainelNATO. Then on top of this we have see the disastrous policy of Merkel causing dependency on `Russia. She got rid of the nuclear power plants to go Green. Now Nord 2 is shelved. And a main country of NATO is left snookered as they have to "phase out" Russian Oil.

If people want to believe that Bono is making a difference fair play. But he is not going to stop a war. All he is doing is creating silly PR while all those issues are still on going. It does nothing but make him look silly IMO. And in the clip as I already said the soldier praising the UK and Boris Johnston showed even more naivety and gameplaying/cluelessness.

There it is!!

The whataboutery is revealed!

NATO this , Afgan this, USA bad.

Cop yourself on.

Plenty of Russian tanks destroyed. But those they capture are easily repurposed at very little cost... just a few paint brush strokes really.

After all, Putin does say he's fighting Nato. 😁

Did you perchance go to the same school as Bono?

Only him beating you up when you were kids seems about the only plausible explanation for your 'Bono bashing' fixation about him

`if you can't see how bad it looks fair enough. If it does good fair enough. But I think there are far better ways Bono could help Ukraine if he wanted to rather than that Pantomime stuff. And Bono clapping when the soldier praised Boris J, Yet Boris sending refugees to Rwanda! Come on. You are implying that I am some teenage girl who is just saying 'cringe' at silly Bono effort. My problem is the broader issues as well. Boris is only using Ukraine to distract from his own political issues. Macron is fairly toothless. Germany is hamstrung because its dependence on Russian Oil.

Meanwhile Russia is STILL getting billions for Russian Oil. Plus is supported by China. And here we have Bono wheeled out saying 'Stand by Ukraine'. It is all lipservice stuff. And it is lipervice that led to this situation in the first place. Zellensky would have assumed he would have got real help from America. He has only received limited help. Ukraine are being hung out to dry in other countries games. Only these games cost lives. But it is grand Bono is here....

I have already explained why it is embarrassing in numerous posts. The whole clip from a visual standpoint, musically and politically.

You are correct about the EU being tragic. That was mainly Merkel's fault. Now the main county in the EU and one of the main countries in NATO is over a barrel, Dependent on Russian Oil and even planned to be more dependent on their gas.