Like U2 or not, they are a well known "brand". Now for arguments sake, say they had appeared at Putins big public day out in the Moscow stadium, imagine the propaganda the Kremlin would have made of that!!! But they did not, they appeared instead in Ukraine, a direct snub to Putin, and a positive for Ukraine. Well done U2.
You do realise U2 isn't 100% Irish? OMG, mind blown!
Babies and toddlers being raped, cities bombed out of existence, thousands of people disappearing into Russia from occupied parts of Ukraine, clusters bombs being used, schools hospitals and apartments being targeted. Yet the subject you choose to become vexxed about is a pop singer singing a couple of songs in solidarity with an invaded people.
How odd, indeed oddly sad.
Oh god! That's terrible! Imagine being willingly part of a public relations initiative that benefits innocent and needy Ukrainians refugees! Morto for them!
The idea that Macron is taking on the role of peacemaker is dubious, he has done as little to aid Ukraine while constantly making reassuring noises to Putin. If I was the Americans and Ukrainians I would be sharing as little as possible with Macron for of it making its way back to Putin
Macron has been out with the long knives again and pouring voluminous amounts of cold water on Ukraine's application to join the EU, after it was announced a decision would be made in June regarding the start of that process. Putin must really love Macron or at least knows where Macron has the bodies buried.
Macron also seems big on the idea of not "humiliating" Russia
Was France so keen not to humiliate Hitler?
Fair play to them for accepting the invite.
Yeah they were invited AS a PR stunt in other words.
New Artillery shells can be controlled and guided.
Don't know the how or when.
No, it is precisely why Germany are pushing for Serbia now.
Serbia and Russia are extremely close.
It is your naivety that allows you to think it is great. The fact you referenced EJ changing candle in the wind for Diana Funeral means you get sucked in easily. If I recall the hastily reworded words from EJ got slated in many quarters notably the Royal Family.
But it was at least a lot better than 'Stand By Ukraine' to the tune of 'stand by me'. Bono would be far better off writing a tune of his own. And the money could go to refugee charities.
Yes, it was the life belt that kept them afloat until heavier help arrived.
I really do think that Ben Wallace is both capable and sincere.
I need to quote this again so it won't get buried in an avalanche of **** posted by some sanctimonious baxtard who wants to drown the discussion with irrelevancies. Typical troll/bot move.
Thanks for keeping it relevant and this is pretty terrible. I hope the perpetrators are brought to justice. This is what it's all about, not pages of blowing smoke about Bono.
If that's the plan, another "friend" to block veto busting, he's making a very big mistake picking Serbia.. they will support Russia each and every time...if he or anyone else thinks Hungary is "difficult" ,,,,,,you ain't seen nuthin yet!!" The Serbs have not or will not forget in a hurry the NATO bombing of Serbia for 78 days in 1999, when the only support they had was Russia.
I appreciate that he is a private citizen. But he is from Ireland and an Irish person I feel embarrassed watching him. And yes it is propaganda let's call it for what it is. Bono is being used for Propaganda.
If the UK invaded Ireland that Ukrainian soldier will be very confused as he seemed to imply - U2 - UK . No mention of the Irish people.
Bono can do what he likes but it was embarrassing stuff. It did appear like a comedy sketch. And the thanking Boris bit from the soldier after thanking the people of the UK. That was the bit that made it even seem more odd. With Bono leading the applause. Bono well intentioned but Naive as usual.
5 years ago today, Putler's surrogate checking on their asset:
I really hope they have ear plugs ! I was watching some ww2 footage last night and they were making that same motion of hands over the ears, I would have assumed ear plugs had made that a thing of the past....
I have ukranian refugees looked after.
You do in your hoop.
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Is this artillery hitting a moving target successfully? One of the vehicles seems to be going at a decent clip. I can't fathom that accuracy if it was intentional.
The performance yesterday was part of a wider campaign to help Ukrainian refugees that U2 have been involved in now for some time. This is from back in March:
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has singled out Bono and U2 praising them for their support for a new fundraising initiative to help people displaced by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
The Dublin band has teamed up Global Citizen, the international charity that aims to end extreme poverty, to support the “Stand Up for Ukraine” fundraising campaign.
“I’m grateful to U2 and Bono for this campaign initiative,” Mr Zelenskiy said in a video posted by European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen on Saturday.
Don't see anything embarrassing about being personally praised by the President of Ukraine for supporting Ukrainian refugees. Is it propaganda? Who the fúck cares. There's real life people that need help though no fault of their own.
Some guy 3,000 km away accidently attributed U2 to the UK in probably his third language? So what? In your post above, you described him as "the Russian soldier"! He (Taras Topolia) is famous Ukrainian singer! I know which I think is the worse mistake, given the current circumstances.
I really hope we shed this adolescent inferiority complex soon, where everything that any of us to do that stands out in any way is "OMG, mom! Stop it! It's cringe! You're ruining my life!". There's a bigger picture to take into account, and it's time to be adults about it.
Almost overlooked that U2 were invited to Ukraine by President Zelensky (as revealed on their Twitter account). They didn't just turn in Kyiv uninvited as a PR stunt.
What might that yoke be they used to sit the projectile? Looks like a bit of pipe with a tin can stuck to it.
Howitzer in Donbas apparently -
The war in the Ukraine is likely to be a long one, so Bono going over there is of massive help by engaging peoples/ the west attention, even if for some its cringe.
It seems like cringe is your go to emotion and are a massively cynical person. I don't think that is a dynamic that is conducive to a happy life but each to their own, please continue your festival of inward cringe.
So that is how you debate? If you don't agree with a point tell someone to get over themselves? And not even consider any point I am making? OK.
I saw that as well more silly propaganda stuff. It does not take away from the fact that Bono looks silly and it is just as silly. Albeit less threatening. Propaganda is not just one sided you know. In war situations both sides do it. And Bono and the Edge going over there and a Russian soldier thanking them and the UK straight after is like a comedy sketch.
Wait, so where was the Russian soldier?
See what you did there?
Yeah you couldn't make it up alright.
From Business Insider/Politico
"Russian soldiers killed a Ukrainian army volunteer on the outskirts of Kyiv and left his dead body in his car trunk fitted with a mine that later exploded when Ukrainian forces attempted to move him, according to Politico.
Lyudmyla Kyrpach, the soldier's widow, told Politico that she and her husband Oleksandr "did everything together."
Kyrpach told the outlet that the day after the invasion began in late February, Oleksandr, a mechanic, organized volunteer fighters in his village of Kalynivka, near Kyiv.
By March 1, days after Russian troops had encroached on their village, Oleksandr's friends set out driving to see if they could source more intel about Russian troop movements up close. She told Politico's Christopher Miller that after they failed to return, he set out to find them.
"He said he would be right back," Lyudmyla told Politico. Oleksandr never returned, and unable to sleep, Lyudmyla set out the following day with her friends to find him.
She noticed his sedan on the road, with the keys in the ignition but no passengers in the car, she told Politico.
Lyudmyla's friend noticed that the trunk was riddled with bullets, per the report, and they opened the trunk to find Oleksandr's dead body. Her friend pulled her away from the car in fear that the trunk could be booby-trapped, she explained to the outlet.
By March 4 they returned to the scene with Ukrainian soldiers.
According to the report, the soldiers tied ropes to his limbs and moved far from the car to pull slowly and see if the car was rigged. As soon as they pulled, the "car exploded in a ball of flames." Russian soldiers had placed weight-triggered mine under Oleksandr, Lyudmyla told Politico.
"Lyudmyla picked up the pieces of the man she had spent decades with and placed them in a box," Politico reported. Later, she buried him in the garden where they used to plant vegetables together."
Having pondered your post long and hard, my considered response is... Get over yourself. FFS.
There are wars on in the world all the time. By your logic I should never feel embarrassed ever. Or is it only the wars you are aware about that you suddenly care about?
Wars did not just start when Putin invaded. What Elton John did was cringeworthy as well. But at least he knew the woman.
Boris has no sincerity and Bono is naive. Remember Boris wants to send refugees to Rwanda and only let in ones from Ukraine that have family connections to the UK.
If you buy into that Bono is helping the Ukraine you have fallen for it. It is superficial silliness at best and propaganda at worst.
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