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Don't wave a Russian flag in Georgia

Mid-level senior officer in the Russian army disobeying orders.

You must have amazing vision

I mean Russia will still be there after the war ends; and it will still have a relatively large (but hopefully much diminished) nuclear equipped army. We all need to figure out how to deal with that fact; and it has been clear from the beginning that Macron is intent on keeping diplomatic channels open with Putin and Russia.

I for one don't particularly like the thoughts of having a supercharged North Korea sitting all along Europe's eastern border without at least trying to find some way to avoid it; and if Macron wants to take on that role while still providing weapons and humanitarian aid to Ukraine then let him work away.

I have stopped watching them after personally seeing some of the censorship, alot of older people will stick with the old reliable, thankfully the influence is lessening

Some of it is good cop bad cop. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. Germany is compromised. It'sore Merkel's than Scholz's fault.

At the end of all this there will be a need to negotiate a solution, Biden, Johnson etc will do the bad cop, Macron will do the good cop.

What happened at the end of WW1 caused WW2. Just like the appeasement of Putin in 2014-16 caused this.

When this ends and we are getting to the stage where Putin and Russia will need a settlement the US and the EU know they need a negotiating door to go through

Is it not beyond the bounds of possibility that the Russians are not capable of building the following for ITS ANNUAL ARMS CAPABILITY INTERNATIONAL SHOW aka celebrating , annually the WW2 victory over Germany. Build , say, 5 big chassis with multiple big wheels. Fabricate Hugh big and very long cylinders for each and mount on the chassis. Canabalise a few bits and pieces, including cabs from defunct armaments and paint the lot green. So as these monsters pass by we all say WOW, what flower there, I wonder how many more have then - god help the poor UKranians !!!!!

I think an attempt to intimidate Ukraine is all. "See, we've got these indefensible missiles faster than everything else and can hit you anywhere, anytime." iMO RuSSia is grasping at straws trying to scare Ukraine.

It's very easy for the US to adopt megaphone positions on things in Europe, as they are invariably unaffected. France, Germany and others deal in realpolitik. Some people dislike it as an approach and prefer the overt and covert regime changing the US still look to. As the quote goes it's your enemies you have to talk to and there is nothing to be gained by completely isolating him diplomatically. Whatever about questions over their attitude to him they are full square behind sanctions.

Are they really fully behind Sanctions, especially Germany.

We have ex Ministers of Germany, past EU Presidents and an assortment of political leadership from Eastern Europe who would dispute that in the strongest terms.

The realpolitik was that Russian friendship was important for cheap resources, whether Ukraine is a democratic state or a Russian possession is secondary to that.

That's the realpolitik, certainly it appears individual prominent German leadership elements have been long compromised. They have certainly proved their loyalty and the result is that Germany is viewed as having no respect for life or Democracy East of its own border.

That's going to effect EU politics for 20 years. Eastern Europe is not going to trust Berlin or be lectured.

That is some serious destruction being inflicted by UAF

And this is happening on more routes ... Russia is never going to win this