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Cork developments

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Tomorrow's Examiner front page

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    There's always a cinema that never materialises... Great to see something happening here eventually but I'm betting the residential and hospital get watered down. Pity about R&H but it would take a charity case to try and do something with that.

    Are Goulding's included in that 30-something acre land bank? Eyeballing a map the area north of centre Park road doesn't look that big alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    What's shown in the renderings is only around 8-10 acres. To get 30 acres, they'll need to take the entire site down as far as Monahan Road.

    To unlock the worksite, they are going to have to complete the transfer of the port operations to Belvelly. Permission was only granted earlier this year for site clearance at Marino Point, which was expected to take 18 months.

    I just hope the hospital operator, Orpea, has started their negotiations with the VHI. Otherwise they'll be heading down the same road as Sheehan Medical who initially had the Mater premises in Mahon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭iColdFusion


    The planners need to tie developments like this into the developer providing a significant percent of the housing/apts required to accommodate the staff for them otherwise OCD are just making profit at the expense of everyone trying to rent in Cork, developers keep crying about apts not being cost effective but I'm sure they would change their tune quick enough when their lucrative office blocks can't be built without housing.



  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't understand how housing, schooling, and grocery shop provisions are not part of planning applications.


    The lack of these three, alone, is a massive driver of car traffic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    The lack of these three, alone, is a massive driver of car traffic.

    I see that a new bridge and LUAS are included in the O'Callaghan proposal. It would be nice if that happened.



  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh for sure but would love to see a drive to have the new city as a living city and not just an empty shell when commuters go home.

    Every time you have a commuter (and I am one) you end up with houses requiring 2 cars anyway. Have people working/living/learning in the city and the NEED for a car diminishes. Families, to be fair, generally will need one but the requirement for 2 should be gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭iColdFusion


    That's it though, OCP will say to the planners "oh all our workers will be whisked into the offices from Ballincollig on the new light rail system and that new Monard town will have loads of new housing so we don't need to provide anything locally because the government are definitely going to build all that because they have said they will, also here are some lovely 3D renders for your planning dept to wet themselves over" 🙄


    You might have read between the lines and guessed I would like them to just build the f#cking apts and houses Cork City needs not more bloody offices!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Is that the JCD building on the right of the second image?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    Just a placeholder building image I think. The revised office development there is shorter, more squat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'd love to have seen something imaginative done with R&H Hall buildings but it was never going to happen, really.

    If that bridge doesn't get built, they are going to have to figure out a way of getting traffic out other than Albert Road - that's already problematic.

    Still, good to see some progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Only there for the shiny rendered images. The light rail and bridge are dependent on public funding being made available to get them built. You're talking around 20 years for that to happen under CMATS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    Global warming will destroy the Cork docklands , extreme floods and rising sea levels.

    I don't understand these investments .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭mrpdap


    Eventually the City Council will see sense and build a tidal barrier at the mouth of Lough Mahon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Not without letting the OPW dig up half the city and block off the river first I fear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Apparently there are minimum base levels for docklands developments-so the city centre will be long gone before any new dockland developments...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    PLANNING permission has been granted for a further tall, c €30million+, 243-bed student accommodation complex at Cork city’s Victoria Cross, on a former garage site which has been sold for €4.1 million.

    It features several blocks, including one of ten storeys, facing UCC’s own ongoing Crow’s Nest 255-bed facility, under advanced construction with Sisk and which itself has four blocks of seven to nine storeys, under the shadow of the 16-storey County Hall.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    While on the one hand, high density is the way to go, not sure I'd be so keen if I lived in one of the houses nearby...




  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've no real sympathy for anyone who bought a house near UCC, in the past 25 years, especially with the growth of RTC/CIT/MTU.


    It's like people buying next to a stadium giving out about match day crowds.

    What the hell did they think was going to happen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Except that there are other things in those areas that would make them good areas to live....walking distance to town, and working in e.g CUH, The Bons, Business Park on Model Farm Rd, ESB and others. People working in these places need places to live, and don't want a long commute.

    I agree that high-rise is the way forward in many instances, but not to the exclusion of others.

    And of course, many people have lived in those areas for much longer than 25 yrs.



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  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a low rise area between 2 massive universities and the major hospital in the region.


    For ALL the reasons you quote it is a no brainer that it is going highrise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Hardly high rise though .. it's 4 or 5 storeys, higher than the neighbours sure ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Going Strong


    It's 2 metres according to regulations. That is why the entrance to the One Albert Quay underground car park is up a ramp. The older Webworks nextdoor has no ramp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭thomil


    On a completely different note, Coca Cola Zero Bikes, the bike rental scheme in Cork, has undergone quite a few changes.

    For starters, it has lost its Coke Zero branding, now simply going as "TFI Bikes". The website has been rebranded, as has the software on the individual stations. The Android app has been updated as well, while the iOS App is, as of December 6th, undergoing final App Store approval. The website link remains the same at www.bikeshare.ie

    Going hand in hand, the first-generation Coke branded bikes are being replaced by new bikes carrying the TFI Bikes branding. While they are generally similar to the original bikes, the gearshift mechanism on the handle has been simplified, the rear mud guard has been enlarged and also extended backwards to protect the rear light.

    Finally, five additional stations were opened in September and October, on the Mardyke, College View Road, outside the Model Farm Road Business Park and at MTU/CIT.

    I wrote about these changes on my blog a month or two back. I hope it's okay if I link that here:

    Cork Bike Share System - Kicking the Coke Habit? (thomil-english.blogspot.com)

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Crane gone up in blackpool on the site of the old flats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Lyonshall were refused planning today for the new Aldi store plus 20 apartments on Skehard Road. Site clearance had already commenced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Had a quick look at the planning file and the number of objections is something else. Mostly to do with not wanting to be able to see apartments from their gardens, but a good few made the obvious point about how creating a new junction on that stretch of Skehard Road was madness. I'll be interested to see the planner's report when it's up.



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  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




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