Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction 

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start. 

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning 

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.  

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

who_me

Cheers for this!

Previous thread just on the (in-progress / upcoming / potential / pie-in-the-sky) hotel developments here too.

Incidentally I just passed the Anglesea Street courthouse at night the other day, and now that the hoardings are down it looks great lit up. I hope I'll never have to darken its doors, but it looks great from the outside at least!

11214

What are people's thoughts on the Ballinglanna development in Glanmire?
http://ballinglanna.ie

j8wk2feszrnpao

11214 wrote: »

What are people's thoughts on the Ballinglanna development in Glanmire?
http://ballinglanna.ie

I reckon 608 families are very eager for it!
I understand your feelings on it though.

But as per the development in Carrigaline, there are people crying out for houses. And prices are going to remain prohibited for many unless they are built.

opus

who_me wrote: »

Cheers for this!

Previous thread just on the (in-progress / upcoming / potential / pie-in-the-sky) hotel developments here too.

Incidentally I just passed the Anglesea Street courthouse at night the other day, and now that the hoardings are down it looks great lit up. I hope I'll never have to darken its doors, but it looks great from the outside at least!

My aging auto is needing more tlc to keep it on the road so was in Canty's garage collecting it yesterday evening & he was telling me that the new courthouse is opening in May sometime. Hopefully it will be open to the public for one of the heritage open days as wouldn't mind having a look inside (as a visitor!).

jimgoose

Cool thread. :cool:

who_me

Speaking of ambitious proposals (Atlantic Quarter), one of the biggest I saw (towards the end, if not after the end of the Celtic Tiger) was the plan for the Marina Commercial Park redevelopment (some details here).

Does anyone know if that's proposal's dead, or are there still plans to revive it? Or was it always pie-in-the-sky? It had some impressive features:

- Ford Experience centre
- ~5,000 employed in the offices and support/retail etc.
- accommodation for ~2400

SleetAndSnow

who_me wrote: »

Speaking of ambitious proposals (Atlantic Quarter), one of the biggest I saw (towards the end, if not after the end of the Celtic Tiger) was the plan for the Marina Commercial Park redevelopment (some details here).

Does anyone know if that's proposal's dead, or are there still plans to revive it? Or was it always pie-in-the-sky? It had some impressive features:

- Ford Experience centre
- ~5,000 employed in the offices and support/retail etc.
- accommodation for ~2400

Its most likely dead in the water but that area could really do with that re-development!

TheChizler

opus wrote: »

My aging auto is needing more tlc to keep it on the road so was in Canty's garage collecting it yesterday evening & he was telling me that the new courthouse is opening in May sometime. Hopefully it will be open to the public for one of the heritage open days as wouldn't mind having a look inside (as a visitor!).

There's no issue with anyone going in for a look while it's open, or attending most cases for that matter.

opus

€160m Horgan's Quay development to begin this summer after planning objection is withdrawn

SleetAndSnow

opus wrote: »

€160m Horgan's Quay development to begin this summer after planning objection is withdrawn

Great news! Excited to see the end result!

11214

Is the Horgans key development before or after Railway street?
It looks great.

who_me

11214 wrote: »

Is the Horgans key development before or after Railway street?
It looks great.

Pretty sure it's after / East of Railway St. I haven't had a look at the new Horgan's Quay entrance to the railway station, but I'd assume it's to the East of that too? Or perhaps wraps around it?

fonzy951

who_me wrote: »

Pretty sure it's after / East of Railway St. I haven't had a look at the new Horgan's Quay entrance to the railway station, but I'd assume it's to the East of that too? Or perhaps wraps around it?

The development is between Railway St. and the Horgan's Quay entrance to the railway station. 400,000 sq feet of office space will definitely resolve any shortages
Link to the official site with a great promo video, http://www.hqcork.ie

11214

That's seriously awesome, what a great use of space.

snotboogie

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Great news! Excited to see the end result!

Unreal news I wasn't expecting it that fast. I'd pay attention to the wording of the article though, they'll be on site by the end of the summer, I'd say the beginning of serious construction will be Q4 at the earliest. Still though, it looks very likely that we will have the biggest ever development in Cork (HQ), the second biggest development ever in Cork (Navigation Square) and the biggest hotel in the city (Sullivan's Quay) all under construction at the same time in 2019.

Harika

Should this also be listed here?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bord-pleanala-clears-way-for-147-homes-on-cork-northside-469580.html

The way has finally been cleared for the construction of 147 social and affordable homes on Cork’s northside on county land earmarked for transfer to the city.


It follows An Bord Pleanála’s decision to give the green light for the estimated €34m scheme in Mayfield, proposed by Cork City Council, following its appeal to the original grant of planning by Cork County Council.

The suburban 13-acre site off Boherboy Rd, south of the Glanmire end of the Old Youghal Rd, is just outside the current boundary of the city council, but is due to become part of the city under the city boundary extension process.

rebs23

Besides some of the projects mentioned in the City Centre, some additional projects underway or soon to commence. Cork is going to be a hive of construction and development activity, in fact it has already commenced. At last count 10 tower cranes around city. More to be erected in the next few weeks.
Major residential sites under constrution in Ballincollig, Kerry Pike, Carrigaline, Blackrock (3), Lenaghmore. Some more to commence soon include scghemes in Dunkettle, White St, Togher, Mayfield, Blarney & Horgans Quay.
Major industrial projects commenced Johnson & Johnson (biggest construction project in Cork), MSD, Eli Lilly (all above 100 million). Data Centre, new Cheese factory (Mogeely) due to commence in summer 2018.
Major hospital projects under construction at Bons Secour, Lee Rd and CUH.
Civil Eng projects at Port of Cork and Dunkettle due to commence shortly.

snotboogie

rebs23 wrote: »

Besides some of the projects mentioned in the City Centre, some additional projects underway or soon to commence. Cork is going to be a hive of construction and development activity, in fact it has already commenced. At last count 10 tower cranes around city. More to be erected in the next few weeks.
Major residential sites under constrution in Ballincollig, Kerry Pike, Carrigaline, Blackrock (3), Lenaghmore. Some more to commence soon include scghemes in Dunkettle, White St, Togher, Mayfield, Blarney & Horgans Quay.
Major industrial projects commenced Johnson & Johnson (biggest construction project in Cork), MSD, Eli Lilly (all above 100 million). Data Centre, new Cheese factory (Mogeely) due to commence in summer 2018.
Major hospital projects under construction at Bons Secour, Lee Rd and CUH.
Civil Eng projects at Port of Cork and Dunkettle due to commence shortly.

Cheers, I don't appear to be able to edit the OP, I'll try at home later. Any chance you could list the projects with a crane? I have searched online for a crane count in Cork with no success.

rebs23

Tower Cranes on site:
Church Rd, Blackrock - Social Housing
Navigation House - Offices
Maldron, Parnell Place - Hotel
JCD South Mall - Offices
Western Rd - Student Apartments
Western Rd - Bons Secour Hospital
CUH Wilton - CUH Hospital
Lee Rd - Care Home
UCC - Student Centre
another one being erected on South Main St - Student Apts
Mini tower Blackpool? I think the 2 in Apple are now down. Any others?

Missyelliot2

Anyone know what's being built on the old Atlantic Homecare site near Friar's Walk/Pouladuff?

GavRedKing

Taken from this thread : https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057860953&page=2

namloc1980 wrote: »

BAM got planning approved last week for the development of 277 units in Castlelake, Carrigtwohill.

namloc1980

GavRedKing wrote: »

Taken from this thread : https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057860953&page=2

It will have direct access to the train station in Carrigtwohill so would be attractive to commuters working in the city.

blindsider

Missyelliot2 wrote: »

Anyone know what's being built on the old Atlantic Homecare site near Friar's Walk/Pouladuff?

Is there activity there? It'd be great if there was something......

snotboogie

600 hundred new homes for the Northside:
http://www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/600-new-homes-to-be-built-on-the-Old-Whitechurch-Road-87ce9f56-0da3-4689-8124-02ee14615915-ds

Bit of a summary of the Northside housing projects also included:

"The wider area, which is currently split between city and county, has about 1700 units planned in total," he said.

This includes 400 proposed for the Longview Development in Ballyvolane, 400 at White's Cross, 600 on Old Whitechurch Road, 84 at Sunbeam, 117 in Blackpool and the 20 acres at Dublin Hill which could have approximately 200 units, Mr Sheehan explained.

Seems they haven't included those in glanmire?

Missyelliot2

blindsider wrote: »

Is there activity there? It'd be great if there was something......

There seems to be a planning notice up - but I was driving by, and didn't get a chance to stop and read it.

GavRedKing

Missyelliot2 wrote: »

Anyone know what's being built on the old Atlantic Homecare site near Friar's Walk/Pouladuff?

I;ve heard its going to be an Avoca cafe.

Missyelliot2

GavRedKing wrote: »

I;ve heard its going to be an Avoca cafe.

That would be amazing!

blindsider

https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/avoca-examining-cork-expansion-447032.html

3rd last paragraph suggests it's a possibility....

snotboogie

Major docklands revival driving Cork City growth

kub

snotboogie wrote: »

Major docklands revival driving Cork City growth

Easy knowing that is not a Cork publication

This is reflected in the 40-plus enquiries that we have seen including developers from Dublin and the UK, for the former Ford factory site near Cork's main GAA grounds.

The Ford factory site was in the Marina Commercial Park :rolleyes:
The site they are referring to was always a car park, as in for new cars off the production line.

Mumha

GavRedKing wrote: »

I;ve heard its going to be an Avoca cafe.

It looks like something of that nature, various adjustments to the current structure, submitted by a Geoff Murphy.

thelikelylad

Mumha wrote: »

It looks like something of that nature, various adjustments to the current structure, submitted by a Geoff Murphy.

Looks like it's Soundstore.

blindsider

Had Soundstore confirmed to me today. Good source and no reason to doubt it.

Wyldwood

The planning application is from Soundstore

blindsider

blindsider wrote: »

Had Soundstore confirmed to me today. Good source and no reason to doubt it.

Ah I was looking forward to going in for a nose around avoca on a Sunday afternoon and not buy a single thing!!

who_me

snotboogie wrote: »

Major docklands revival driving Cork City growth

That render looks an awful lot like the old Atlantic Quarter Howard Holdings proposal from way back, with 3 towers at the North East end. I'd guess it's just a stock image they found?

Another article here. Not sure which sites they're referring to, one on the North quays (I assume they're not referring to Horgan's Quay, as it's hardly news) and one by the bus station (could be one of several sites, across the street to the East has been on the cards for some time, or the triangular site to the south-east, or the site immediately to the south whose building was demolished a few years back).

mire

I am assuming that the reference to the north docks is in fact the Horgan's quay site. Although this already has planning permission, there was never any confirmation of uptake of the office element. I understand that the hotel has an operator, that the developer is of the view that the residential element is viable if constructed immediately. There is 400,000 square feet of office space, which is enormous, and I am assuming there would be an announcement of some prelet on this. This would be fantastic development.

I would say that the other project 'near the bus station' is the anderson's quay site owned by ocallaghan properties.

snotboogie

mire wrote: »

I am assuming that the reference to the north docks is in fact the Horgan's quay site. Although this already has planning permission, there was never any confirmation of uptake of the office element. I understand that the hotel has an operator, that the developer is of the view that the residential element is viable if constructed immediately. There is 400,000 square feet of office space, which is enormous, and I am assuming there would be an announcement of some prelet on this. This would be fantastic development.

.

Isn't the rumor that they want to make it into some international shipping hub? BTW I don't think they ever announce the uptake of office space before the build. Johnson Controls were announced just before One Albert Quay finished and the bank going into Navigation Square were only announced a few weeks ago. I don't think there has been any announcement for the build on South Mall.

snotboogie

who_me wrote: »

That render looks an awful lot like the old Atlantic Quarter Howard Holdings proposal from way back, with 3 towers at the North East end. I'd guess it's just a stock image they found?

It is. They used it because it's the same site

chalkitdown1

Anyone know what's actually going on with Marina Park? The entire place has been boarded up since Pairc Ui Caoimh re-opened and it looks like nothing has changed since last Summer. Is the park actually going ahead or what? It'd be nice to have a big park within walking distance of my house instead of going all the way across the city to Fitzgerald's Park.

GavRedKing

AFAIK, the site has been cleared of debris from the Pairc build for some weeks.

I've not seen many trucks/diggers/people in there for some time, nor have I seen the gates, by the junction connecting Monaghan Road and the centre park road open either.

opus

Have a bit of a vested interest here given I live fairly close by

Shandon area gets €400,000 enhancement

ofcork

I see with regarding trinity quarter etc they need tenants confirmed before finance is available to actually develop these sites.

who_me

opus wrote: »

Have a bit of a vested interest here given I live fairly close by

Shandon area gets €400,000 enhancement

I love that whole area, some fantastic laneways around the butter museum / Firkin Crane / St. Anne's. To me it has massive potential for a tourist trap. It might be a bit too residential for significant changes (cafes/restaurants/shops etc.)

opus

who_me wrote: »

I love that whole area, some fantastic laneways around the butter museum / Firkin Crane / St. Anne's. To me it has massive potential for a tourist trap. It might be a bit too residential for significant changes (cafes/restaurants/shops etc.)

The one cafe that was there just behind the Firkin Crane now looks to be a glass/ceramic workshop of some kind. I really must try the 4 Liars bistro at some stage to see what it's like.

snotboogie

May update

Under Construction 

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Student Accommodation: Western Road accomodation is nearly completed and the Beamish site has just erected a tower crane. 

Marina Park: Under construction with first phase to open in Q1 2019.

Industrial projects:  Johnson & Johnson (biggest construction project in Cork), MSD, Eli Lilly (all above 100 million).

Hospital: Major hospital projects under construction at Bons Secour, Lee Rd and CUH

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Appeal withdrawn in April. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in this summer with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed, 12 storey, 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy. Final planning decision due the middle of May.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, appealed with a decision due soon.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. Appealed and granted permission in April. No date for work to start. 

MacCurtain Street/York Street Hotel: 8 floor 73 bed hotel. Planning granted in March, appealed soon after and withdrawn at the end of April. Construction to start before the end of the year.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting. 

Civil Eng: Dunkettle to commence shortly. M28 decision pushed back indefinitely. M20 pre planning just starting.

Student accommodation: Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018. 

Tramore Valley Park: Despite being mostly completed years ago the park remains in limbo with regard to an opening date.

Ikea: Announced as a certainty for Carrigtwohill by The Examiner late last year. Ikea themselves poured some water over it a few months later but confirmed they are looking for a site in Cork. Nothing since.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Student Accommodation: Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Concept/Pre Planning 

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.  

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity. Rumored to be a residential development with over 1,000 apartments.

The Prism: This is believed to be an office development on the triangle site on Clontarf Street which was for sale last year. A 15-17 storey building is believed to be proposed on the site.

North Docklands site: Vague references in the Evening Echo about a major development here. Speculation ranges from the Echo re plugging Horgans quay to an absolutely mammoth office development in the area bounded by Penrose quay, Railway street, Alfred street and Brian Boru street.

Transportation: North Ring Road got a few vague mentions in the Ireland 2040 plans. A cork light rail and/or BRT system got similarly vague mentions but its rumoured something more concrete will be announced at the end of the summer. Bus connects was allocated 300 million in funding in the 2040 plan. The Eastern Gateway Bridge remains a concept

opus

I've a vested interested in Tramore Valley park cause of involvement in the parkrun there & the council have told me it's opening this year which I tend to believe.

However a cynic might say they've been saying this for the past few years as well & couldn't offer much argument

ofcork

The demolition was done on Camden quay behind the old mckenzies façade surely construction is next on this.

CHealy

The Prism development is from the same guys that want to build the 40 story tower.

Website launching soon: https://theprismbuilding.com/

Also mentioned on their Times Square Holdings website. Not sure if this is good or bad for the 40 story tower, especially with it being so close.

Great thread & updates btw OP.

who_me

snotboogie wrote: »

The Prism: This is believed to be an office development on the triangle site on Clontarf Street which was for sale last year. A 15-17 storey building is believed to be proposed on the site.

Interesting.. I hadn't heard anything about this, though found some references across on skyscrapercity.com.

There's only one small image of the building - to be honest there was a much better plan for that site going back a few years. A tall, slender, wavy design, that got lost/destroyed in the netherworld that is our planning system. Great little location though.