What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

In a world where moral equivocation is now seemingly endless, at least some of his supporters might say, "Yeah, Trump's bad, but he's not as bad as Biden/Hillary/Obama/those crooked Democrats.". That'd be one thing, but despite saying Trump's bad, he's not quite bad enough not to vote for.

Another *checks notes* Trump appointed judge rules against him..

Judge McFadden, appointed by then-President Trump, throws out Mr. Trump’s bid to block IRS disclosure of his tax returns to the U.S. House

Must be in the deep state?

Not sure why the names have been held back but they won't be for much longer.

One explanation I read this morning is that the committee are waiting to see who will issue a pre-emptive denial. McConnell has already issued a denial and others will surely follow. So those who did send the messages will either not issue a denial and reveal it was them by a process of elimination or they will issue a denial and then the committee can then say they are lying.

I have to agree. I can somewhat see the reasoning behind it in terms of what ohnonotgmail said (which was my own assumption too) and also possibly so as not to release too many names at once, to allow for people to condemn Fox presenters, Don Jr. etc in one batch and then politicians in another batch whereas all names released at once could cause some to be lost in the mix.

But the clock is ticking and the longer it drags out, the less effective it'll be. Besides which, any politician who does lie about Trump texts and then is proved to be lying.... it's not going to matter to people anyway. Their supporters will continue to support them regardless.

Perhaps I didn't explain it very well. This is what I read this morning

Tiffany tried ringing Trump Snr, but he didn't answer as he didn't recognise the number...

I think the reason why Trump has been let off the hook, on so many illegal acts, is because there are about 20 million of his supporters who advocate civil war to keep him in power.

The Republicans are terrified of him - a bit like being a neighbour of Tony Soprano's. They know that he can, with a word, threaten them and their families. They have created the monster, and now he has control over their lives.

The Democrats also fear him; and their concerns are the prospect of civil war. I'd wager that the vast majority of Trump's brigades are owners of multiple firearms etc. The US armed forces in total are just over 2 million with about 1.4 million of them on active duty. Trump would have no compulsion about calling his many millions of Trumpists to arms. It is a dreadful prospect, but a plausible one.

The only way that the US would be safe from him is that if he dies before 2024.

No

No matter what those theories will happen. No matter how long he lives for. That support won't accept that the perfect specimen of man could die and many have decided he is the perfect man. The only exception would be if he died in power having named his successor.

The GOP would love it since they could invoke his name without Trump saying something new and stupid and hold him up as a martyr.

I'm not as quick to give them a pass. They created the monster through wanting his 74M voters to stay onside, but more so for future elections as because he would incite violence.

The Republican party big hitters could easily have denounced his undermining of democratic elections and appeared as being staunch supporters of the constitution, which would have appealed to these same voters, from November 7th onward last year. But they didn't, they went full in behind him so that there would be no campaign advertisement claiming that they didn't.

I actually believe many Republicans wouldn't mind increased rhetoric about civil war (not saying a significant number actually want to see violence, but talking about it, they'd definitely be ok with that). It would put to bed the argument about the Second Amendment for the rest of their lives, it would embolden their fan base and they'd probably think that it would force congress and the Democrats to be more conciliatory towards them.

History will judge the party and the selfish needs of their key members very harshly if Trump is indeed elected in 2024.

Yes I agree that the Dems are the majority party; however, unless they can pass the voting rights bill it won't matter.

The electoral college may very well be changed with the swing states electors supplanted by Trump supporters. It is already happening in Georgia and five or six other states; with Trump supporters using a scheme whereby they can legally use their majority Republican representations to replace the more reasonable electors. Perdue, who's running for governor in Georgia, stated that he would install Trump, if the same thing were to happen in 2024 as in 2020.

The secretary of state for Georgia, Raffensberger, whom Trump has vilified, also said that the will vote for Trump if he runs in 2024.

If America was a true democracy people like Trump, or even G.W. Bush, would not have become presidents.

The electoral college will never be decommissioned, and the Senate filibuster will not change. For instance, California with 40 million people has two senators and 15 Republican leaning states with a similar population has 30 senators. That is the problem. It is not a country of the people for the people, by the people, as they so often state.

well given his reaction when asked whether he was one of the republicans who tested mark meadows he sounded like he was getting the popcorn ready, because he said he wasn’t but he’s interested to see who did, which if he was playing the Trump party line he’d use the trump bingo card and claim witch-hunt. As McConnell said in the aftermath of the attack on January 6th(which many GOP members felt it was in private) Donald Trump is not out of legal trouble. The GOP want the out of Trump being removed from possible reelection by something or someone other than themselves.