Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Cowen was certainly no prize, but to be fair to him he was thrown under the bus by Bertie who has since managed to rehabilitate himself to the point of radio commentary fairly regularly on the likes of Newstalk.

Enda Kenny is certainly worse as he had a once-in-a-generation chance to actually reform politics in this country and a mandate from the electorate to do it - but squandered it for his lot's turn at the trough. We can also thank him for the current and previous Government - ineffectual and weak - because of his crusade to be the only FG Taoiseach to get (ie: negotiate in back-room deals with the likes of Zappone and Shane Ross) a second term.

Micheal is similar in that sense in that his only goal was to not be the odd-one-out FF leader NOT to be Taoiseach, but with no other plan or agenda beyond that. He is the classic bureaucrat who has failed upwards through inertia and no better options, but all 3 were disastrous for this country in their own ways.

Will 2022 be a year of caution ?

Best Christmas present the Irish people will ever get would be the disbandment of NPHET with a new task force created incorporating other aspects ie Economics etc

Another Quarter/2 quarters of a year been disturbed is just not good enough anymore

Cut from the same cloth. Both had a huge hand in the crash and ruination of peoples lives. Martin has personally contributed to the **** show of the HSE. Martin now doing his best to drive the country into another financial meltdown.

Looking like the below 40s will all be offered the booster before Christmas or around then. Government saying 1.5m will receive boosters before Christmas. Covering all vulnerable areas.

There can be no justifications for restrictions in January. Micheal Martin saying there was a lack of enthusiasm for the boosters sounded strategic. The HSE said that a couple of weeks ago but was debunked early. He still went with it, even though he knew their were massive issues in regard to People being double/triple booked for appointments. It was well highlighted. He couldn't have not known.

So in this case, all of the vulnerable cohorts will have their booster and will have kicked in before Christmas.

They cannot justify any restrictions in January, let alone increasing them. Unless they are waiting for the Over 80s to get booster 2. They should be due them in February.

There just doesn't seem like an out-plan. It was February last year when Leo Varadkar were telling us of this "Living with Covid" plan to be issued. Which I don't think was ever released.

I think the following things need to be addressed and addressed quickly:

1. The end of emergency legislation

2. The disbandment of NPHET

3. A target date for the end of vaccine passports

4. The day of zero restrictions

5. The deletion of any legislation in the background to be able to instantly impose restrictions again.

So after many months of no restrictions here in England, they've reintroduced masks and introduced vaccine passports for large scale events. They also announced today that you will need your booster or else your pass expires. Theres been plans revealed for a permanent booster programme costing £5b per year. The glorified NHS has been told to put vaccinations as priority while cancer patients go on the back burner. This is absolutely lunacy. The acceleration and aggression in this vaccine push is out of hand. Articles are coming out about how the unvaccinated will need to "come clean" to employers if they need to self isolate. "Come clean"? what kind of deranged language is that? I would not be surprised if vaccines become mandatory here soon after the vaccine passports creep their way down into every establishment.

I just don't see how this ends anymore. People are too far gone. Openly calling for the segregation and punishment of others. Wishing death on those who won't do what they want them to do. I thought when boosters started becoming mandatory to keep passes people would start questioning the end goal here, some thankfully are, but it seems most are still going along with it. Will it be after the 4th? the 5th? the 6th? I don't know. Governments have done one hell of a divide and conquer job on us.

We're essentially trapped in a 6 month societal subscription service by governments bought out by big pharma.

I genuinely don't see the point of a booster if it makes no change to how we live. It certainly makes no difference to me personally. I took the original 2 primarily on the basis of it being the road to normality. That didn't happen and now we're being asked to line up again - perhaps indefinitely.

The "vulnerable" need to take responsibility for their own welfare based on their individual level of risk and circumstances. Let's face it, anyone at real risk from CV-19 is likely also at risk from a host of other things they should be/likely are protecting themselves from. This notion of making everyone else responsible and/or shifting that responsibility/blame among different groups periodically needs to end.

But because the Irish people as a whole are among the most docile and servile on the planet (it seems), change certainly won't come easy!

850000 people who are mostly vaccinated and have all tested negative for covid ?

What would I have to fear from anyone with a covid cert and a recent negative test?

Or do tests not work either?

Santa claus variant

What that says to me is that the level of concern among the average citizen (and I see the same things myself) has reached a point where they don't care anymore - and why is that? Because despite the constant doom and fearmongering in the media, from NPHET and Government, most people aren't at any real risk from Covid at this point (if they ever were)

If Covid was (still/ever) the threat to the masses it has been made out to be, then those same people WOULD still be doing those things as they did in March-July 2020 when we had limited information.

But the truth is that Covid is only a real risk (outliers notwithstanding) to the elderly, infirm and immunocompromised - groups which (as I said above) are probably still at greater risk from a host of other things than they are from Covid. That's not to say that these people shouldn't still take care and follow their doctor's advice, but it is obvious that the vast majority of people in this country don't fit the same risk profile, and so why SHOULD they be expected to follow the same restrictions?

Enough is enough. We bought into the idea of getting vaccinated to get back to normal. It hasn't happened. In fact in some ways it's actually worse with the segregation of society that has crept in. Now we're being asked to take the latest dose because it'll help get back to normal..

Fool me once...

I think the vaccines are working the elderly and vulnerable are protected. The young don’t really notice much difference they get it to be able to do things holiday, pub etc . I’m not sure all kids need to be vaccinated and that a mandatory vaccination discussion is required if we can get through this winter. Let’s not forget last Christmas was classed as a disaster but we got through it with less vaccination.

we will get a good % of vaccination in adults and kids voluntarily and we should leave it at that and not blame or segregate people.

we need to open fully earlier and not leave it so long. October for the end of restrictions was just a stupid idea like telling people last year we were going into lockdown on Jan caused a surge of people going out two weeks before Xmas.

What's the alternative? Not getting a jab and having another lockdown for sure in January? A little pinch in the arm to try and keep our country open and free seems like a fair trade to most

NIAC (auful auful name for a grouping) have just advised that the booster should be administered after 3 months, just 6 days after the EMA made a similar recommendation and about a month behind the UK.

Sad that this is considered "fast" but there you go

Scratch my above post. Booster every 3 months. So the vulnerable will be going onto Booster number 6 next January-February. Then we'll be good. It will be all over.

Literally just half an hour ago a poster was joking about booster number 7 being the breaking point 😂

I never said stopping travel, I said having everyone test negative prior to travel.

2 completely different things.

Fair enough, still a vote coster though...