Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Of course they will, but as has been said before, until there is a push back from large sections of society, restrictions will contuine to exist and be introduced.

The fact hospitality seem to be getting more lax is a good sign. If over a course of a few weeks, every or the vast majority of people have the certs, its quickly going to become apparent that its a waste of time and their staff are better doing real work.

Yes, same with card carrying self declared ‘liberals’ who with their support for all these restrictions have shown themselves to be nothing of the kind. Principle amongst them being Fintan O’ Toole. What passed as liberalism in this country was being anti catholic and the more viciously anti catholic you were, the more you were loved in ‘liberal’ circles.

Ah they are only liberals as long as you fall into line and agree with everything they agree with. If you disagree then you will he labeled right or left wing, conspiracy theorist or what ever the en-vogue label is at the time. Same with all these so called 'woke' folks who butch and moan about equality and treating everyone the same but that all went out the window with the covid pass and now if you are against it you are branded.

So really it comes down to whether they are puppets or muppets?

Well no as that isn't a scientifically sound position as you well know, but good to hear you want to donate more stuff together countries, vaccines aren't the top of their needs list and I guess it would be hypocritical of you now if you don't support other schemes.

Everything with omicron is still to be proven (anecdotal evidence isn't evidence) and it is an absolute undeniable fact that if you encounter the virus you're always better off having the vaccine. Hopefully omicron is milder but we're likely waiting on a care home outbreak to prove if.

They were the most vicious of them all.

Certainly opened my eyes on a few people.

Their beliefs and principles are non existent as far as I can see. Never about others nor tolerance. Only self congratulation and control.

This **** mess has been heaven for many of them. Some, I seriously wonder, don't seem to want it to end.

The best example is the Herman cain award subreddit on Reddit. Promoted by at least one prolific poster in here in a few different threads. Filled with people so convinced of their own perfectness and virtue that they've descended into a sociopathic wallowing in the misery of others.

Oh there could be a whole other thread on this don't get me started. I find these woke folks are best avoided nothing but misery. Those virtue signallers with I got vacc'd to save everyone when you know they only got the vaccine so they could head out to the pub or restaurant but yeah if you asked them they will tell you how much of a hero they are to protect granny.

On the NPHET frontI agree with a post above. If they are going to keep it, it's needs freshening up.

We could go out and hire the best virological experts in the world. The best human behaviouralists in the world. Thank the rest for their time and leave it up to the best in the business. Then we would know there are no hidden agendas. They have no long term skin in the game. They are not bound to the HSE or civil service politics. They can give true independent advice.

We all know from Pre-Covid that Tony Holohan has a distain for our drinking culture. There is an internal bias there. He cannot be trusted to give true independent, non agenda driven advice.

I think a lot of people get the impression that Covid passes for Gyms is not public health measure. It's directed at young fit people who feel they don't need the vaccine. They want to boost those vaccine stats. It is agenda driven. Particularly towards a lot of gym owners/personal trainers who have bee critical of restrictions and questioning why young and fit people would need the vaccine. This stuff appeared a lot in the Kinzen Reports.

Public trust is everything in something like this. The likes of Romania and Bulgaria cannot get people vaccinated because there is no public trust in government.

If there is another pandemic in 10-20 years time. Will there be the same level of trust that was given originally back in March 2020? Not a chance. And there won't be 94% take up of a vaccine when it was advertised to give you back your freedom.

Trust is eroding.

Swimming pools are excluded from the covid cert requirement for some reason. Or were they not checking gym users either? My gym didn't check this week which didn't bother me (although I hope they don't get into trouble over it.)

Not sure on the swimming pool but it wouldn't make sense that you show a pass into the gym but not the pool then again with what we have seen with these restrictions it wouldn't surprise me. As for gym goers I didn't see them being asked either for the covid pass. No one on the reception at times either and definitely no one at the door checking.

Unfortunate timing really. Not only do failures stay in power they usually get a promotion.

The restrictions are not there for public health as I have said they are there to protect the politicians and public service management including HSE management for the mismanagement of the health service. That's all these restrictions are for. I have said it before all restrictions should have been lifted as some as all the over 70's and most vulnerable were vaccinated, I also think the covid cert and coercion used to make people get vaccinated should not have been done, it should have been the vaccine is there if you want it. People would have made up their own minds then. Yes the government can advise that it would be best to get it but that is your decision.

The last bastion of the beaten look what they are doing over there. I don't care what they do elsewhere, I care what they do here. So you are so gung ho on restrictions and vaccinating anyone or anything from the cradle to grave, convince me of the reasons for the covid certs? Why are they there? If 92% of the population is vaccinated then why do we need the restrictions?

Because the unvaccinated are still taking up 50% of the COVID beds...

And as said a few posts up are the Government's throughout the world trying to protect the HSE with their restrictions?