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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale



    Yeah defo could, but they are supposed to check IDs. I've feel I've had my ID checked more lately, wonder was something said to premises.

    Thankfully my local pub checks the passes, as I don't think I'd like to eat and drink somewhere that chose what public health regulations they would follow :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Are you worried about the 6 in 100 chance that you might be in the company of an unvaccinated person?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    No. Worried what other rules they're not following in the kitchen haha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Nicola Sturgeon says the Scottish Government expects Omicron to overtake Delta as the dominant variant in Scotland by as early as next week.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    It's being discussed by the EU but hasn't happened yet. Current indications are that certs could/will expire 9 months after your last jab



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    We're not going to get much beyond 92%, they're used now because we have 50% of hospitalisations and ICU coming from the unvaccinated, when that number is 8% they can be dropped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭francogarbanzo


    50% of ICU patients are in for covid and also unvaccinated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    50% of COVID patients are unvaccinated (on average) from 8% of the adult eligible population for vaccines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    That is true. But you are applying one kind of pressure with your constant stream of insults against the unvaccinated and the certs are exerting a different kind of pressure. So that is why posters are confusing you for a supporter of certs, which you're not.

    Why not live and let live, or get angry at S Donnelly for missing the Dept of Health's end of year ICU expansion target by a huge gap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    TheJournal.ie does not represent the country any more than Boards does imo. They ban a lot of commenters and a single person can easily vote 5 or 6 times if they use different email addresses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I just checked a poll there and you don't need to enter email to vote? How do they ban people from voting?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Exactly this. There's as many head cases on the Journal as there is here, more even. It's not an accurate gauge of public opinion when opinions that don't fit a certain narrative can be banned or removed, much like here tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    You do realise that people who are not allowed access pubs and nightclubs are just getting cans and having house parties, where no regulations exist and it is far more likely for covid to spread.

    The passes do absolutely nothing and if anything they probably cause more cases by stopping people socialising where they have to follow regulations.

    You know the pass is mainly to try get people to take the vaccine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Not 100%. Its aim is to prevent the unvaccinated mixing with the vaccinated in social settings, getting them vaccinated is a bonus. It is the case though in other countries with far lower levels of vaccination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    Would depend on the age groups. People tend to stop going to house parties as they get older.

    Although I'd love to be a fly on the wall at some of these house parties for the discussions alone haha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Anywhere I can get a jab at short notice ?

    I'm thinking of venturing out but dunno is it safe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    no more and more people in their 30s are going to house parties that would never dream of going to them if late bars and nightclubs were open.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hospitalisations and ICU continue to either reduce or stabilise.

    All predictions made by NPHET in October have been proven false - again. We are performing better than their best case scenario since we reopened on 23 October.

    More restrictions have been introduced because of "speculation" and not "science-based evidence" on Omicron.

    Cases are stabilising, too - not that this figure matters, because The Journal and others are offering daily figures as if the country was in the pre-vaccinated era.

    And perhaps I'll receive some degree of criticism for saying this, but I've a feeling that Holohan must be absolutely devastated by all of the above; that he's no longer becoming the centre of national attention. Even Michael Martin has curbed the influence of negative NPHET by ensuring media appearances are coordinated by a department of the Taoiseach.

    If and when Martin evolves a spine, perhaps these stupid restrictions will be removed - not because NPHET recommend it, because I couldn't give a damn what these people think, but because common sense shows that what's happening re: South Africa, shows that there is no additional risk to a highly vaccinated population.

    But Martin won't evolve a spine, and more to the shame about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Late Late show 50% capacity masked audience.

    Nathan Carter in Derry tonight, a full house and not a mask in sight.

    ........ a virus that knows what a border is!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    To be fair the Late Late show audience are exceptionally vulnerable individuals.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    I don't really give a sh1t about the vaccinated vs unvaccinated as both are spreading the same. I was out tonight and I was in 3 places. Wasn't checked for my cert once. One of them, the celt on Talbot Street was jammers. Not one single bit of guidance followed. No checking of certs. Not a mask in sight anywhere. Staff or customer or otherwise. No limiting access to seating. When I left it was like an other busy night outside of covid.


    As I said, I don't have a problem with it. But must be a pain in the hole for any place that is severly limiting their punters and revenue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I'm sure they'll be delighted with you highlighting it ha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Given that the omicron variant spreads faster than anything before, and given that its a mild cold, might the lockdown brigade and those still recommending that children get jabbed perhaps admit they were needlessly panic stricken?

    You may post your revised answers in a week or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I have only been in a pub 3 times since they introduced the passes. One was an engagement party where we knew they were not enforcing passes. The other 2 were spur of the moment quick pints who did ask from the passes.

    TBH I have no sympathy for places that are harshly enforcing the restrictions. I'm generally avoiding pubs and restaurants that are asking for them.

    Anyone I have been talking to over the last few weeks have been saying the pubs have been empty. Especially for a December.

    I was in Dublin City centre tonight and it felt like a normal midweek.

    The non vaccinated are small part of the population. And I reckon a lot of them are not necessarily pub goers.

    It just seems like the pass, assigned seats and feeling the need to book places, just seem to be putting up an invisible barrier to people.

    The Vintners have a lot to answer for. They took MUP to keep their mouths shut. MUP will come in January and their pubs won't be earning a cent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Still waiting on data to how serious it is, boosters also seem to work well against it, but possible cause for optimism either way, not a time for declaring victory.

    People believe in the safety of vaccines, omicron won't really change that so the rollout will continue uninterrupted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'm curious to see how long NI hold out. Only the other day all was rosy and they said everything was under control. Then Boris starts introducing some restrictions, Scotland also spooked.... so I expect within 72 hours NI will **** themselves and start rowing back.

    Even Boris mentioned a discussion on vaccine mandates and not a peep. Ursula mentioned that and everyone was in uproar (before you say it, neither Boris nor Ursula can change our constitution. It's just a funny comparison. Same speech, totally different reaction)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump



    Healthy kids don't need this vaccine, end off story


    Donate the vaccines to other countries who need it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    The anecdotal evidence that the 'unvaxed' dont seem to be struggling with it - seems to suggest that they might *not* have missed a trick.

    The anecdotal evidence that the triple 'vaxed' are catching it with the same level of symptoms suggests they might not be particularly 'protected'.

    The absolute evidence suggests that the 'vaxed' are the primary carriers and spreaders.

    If this were continue would you support the immediate suspension of measures like jabbing kids and special permission 'passports' for pharma consumers? May I assume that you would be happy that we appear to be at the end of the 'pandemic' ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Its even questionable whether healthy adults need the vaccine or certainly whether they need boosters. By all means give boosters to vulnerable and those that want it. But pumping millions of boosters into healthy people before 3rd world countries get their population vaccinated in the first place is wrong.

    The sooner the government realise this, the sooner the vaccine pass can be done away with as it serves no benefit at this stage.



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