Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Every medical treatment from vaccination to a panadol has some risk of side effects. Most are miniscule so much so that most people will never experience them - but the more you take the more risk you have. Typically the risks must be very small for the medicine to gain regulatory approval - covid vaccines are different in this regard because of the pandemic and emergency auth (CMA for EU).

The chance of you experiencing an adverse event goes up with every extra "booster" you get - so it is absolutely not something to be cheered for that you need to take a booster dose every 6 months. We were originally sold on the idea of 2 doses - now its 3, soon it will be 1 every 6 months ad infinitum. Adverse reactions will inevitably increase with more doses administered per person as the cumulative risk goes up. I think the question is, is that really a good thing?

I thought the people bringing up vax passes last year sounded crazy, how wrong I was. Don't know how you can be so confident of something like that given how things have transpired this year, smacks of a pure head in the sand attitude. I would be very disappointed myself if such a measure was brought in to exclude children based on a vaccine for an illness they are barely at risk from, but at one point I genuinely thought it wouldn't happen with adults either.

The added boosters you talk about mean our economy can reopen with fewer restrictions, our daily lives can get back to more normality, there will be less pressure on the health service so other procedures won't be impacted and less death which are all very very good things to have during a pandemic

What is the risk from the vaccines that you are so afraid of?

There is a list as long my arm of potential side effects from these vaccines - that thankfully have been relatively low up to now, but with every extra dose the cumulative risk increases more and more. And you're suggesting that its a good thing we have to get a booster every year/6 months?

That's precisely the message we got about the original vaccine doses. A lot of people are very cynical now when they hear the same thing now about boosters.

Ok fair point. But the Covid vaccine isn’t very effective as it needs boosters every six months according to the companies themselves. Do you think children should keep getting booster after booster of mRNA vaccines for a virus that isn’t a threat to them? It took years for the Meningitis vaccine to be developed.

I know a lot of people working in healthcare - the main danger to younger children currently is RSV type viruses. It has hospitalised quite a few children in the last number of weeks.

Its mental.

Up till literally 7 days ago we have had it drilled into us, schools are safe, kids are fine, dont get sick from this (something ive witnessed myself) to literally a week later Vaccinate all the kids now and mask them us asap and posters here are asking "whats the problem?" Its a good thing

It really wouldn't, the vaccines stop us from having to use that capacity in the first place they are literally top of the list from the "things that are needed to run the health service efficiently". The flu vaccine is another example that drastically reduces the spending needed on capacity, in this case, an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.

...so what's the big deal? Fair play to anyone that makes the move. Good luck to them.

You're arguing on the safety of the vaccines in this case. Medical professionals and authorities around the world have deemed them safe, billions of people have taken them, trials much larger than normal for medical trials have been ran to determine their safety, we are into very rare side effects that have only been found due to mass rollout and even for them, there is treatment available when they occur vs. a novel virus which can kill people with undetermined long term effects.

"isn't very effective" seems to be your typical refrain and doesn't make sense for a vaccine with a 90%+ chance of eliminating severe disease in people and reducing transmission rates significantly for a highly transmissible virus.

So you want to put vaccines into kids who don't need them to protect people who are vulnerable and will already have taken boosters that is supposed to protect them from serious illness and being hospitalised.

The flu jab is voluntary and kids are more at risk to It than Covid, so I have no problem with kids taking that vaccine.

I have confidence in calling it. If I'm wrong, I'll admit I'm wrong. I've been wrong before...

Name the risks, not all of them obviously, unless you have a very short arm, can you name 5 of the risks for example? Preferably the most serious ones - mild pain at the injection site wouldn't be considered serious

Also trying to find proof that extra doses mean more risks but can't seem to find any scientific proof of that... Did you make it up?

So yes, given what I know, extra boosters is proven to be a good thing

I could be completely wrong here but isn't the main risk that someone will have been positive for covid the past couple of months, not known about as they were asymptomatic, and get a booster on top of the infection and two previous doses?