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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭ xieann


    ....This tweet ends with the fine eminent words "Any Republican in the House or Senate who votes for this Bill will never ever get a Trump Endorsement"

    😯 😕 😑



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    Post deleted as Nody posted on sentence earlier.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    Does anyone know of a good fact-checker site? One F/B site has posted that Rupert Murdoch told a room of News Corp stockholders this week that Don Trump's constant complaining about the 2020 election is getting in the way of conservatives moving their agenda forward, adding that it’s time for him to put on his big boy pants and move on from the the past.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,349 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    Politifact, Snopes & factcheck.org are the ones I've heard of.

    Show me a god that does not demand mortal suffering. Show me a god that celebrates diversity, a celebration that embraces even non-believers, and is not threatened by them. Show me a god that understands the meaning of peace. In life, not in death.

    Steven Erikson



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,540 ✭✭✭✭ Tony EH


    Every single news outlet is reporting it too.

    He, apparently, said that Trump is "too focused on the past", which is a pretty milquetoast reproach.

    Still, when the owner of Trump's propaganda organ for the last 6 years kinda says shut the fuck up, it's at least a little bit serious.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    It might be worth seeing if Fox News report on Rupert's words (advising Don to look to the future) to his stockholders, assuming he meant it in relation to how the U.S economy and the world economy is doing under Joe Biden's administration.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,540 ✭✭✭✭ Tony EH


    It's difficult to know exactly what he meant by it as it's a very vague statement.

    However, I would imagine that after 60 odd court cases and audits turning up no actual evidence of wrong doing in the last election, a lot of people "on the right" are wanting Trump to quit his bollocks as it's making them all look bad. There's only so much failing propaganda that can be tolerated before it starts to hurt its own side and I would think that that's what Murdoch meant to get across.

    The "stolen election" avenue has been exhausted and it is, and always was, a dead end.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,660 ✭✭✭✭ Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    With Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges and walking away a free person from the court, I expect Trump to go public on how he supported Rittenhouse and secured his not guilty verdict. As to whether Trump will try to escalate any street events into full blown riots, that remains to be seen. Hopefully some-one will put him in a room without any media devices and lock the door from the outside.



  • Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭ bewareofthedog


    I'm sure they'll be plenty of riots with or without Trump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    This is dated information from anonymous sources. Don Trump's pal Mike Lindell hosted a "cyber symposium" in August at which data gained from breaches of the election networks of Colorado and Ohio was revealed. Allegedly the reason behind the breaches was to find fraud. The attempted breach in Ohio occurred on May 4 inside the county office of John Hamercheck, R, chairman of the Lake County Board of Commissioners, according to two individuals with knowledge of the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigations by the FBI and state agencies. State and county officials said no sensitive data were obtained, but they determined that a private laptop was plugged into the county network in Hamercheck’s office, and that the routine network traffic captured by the computer was circulated at the same Lindell conference as the data from the Colorado breach. Asked in a telephone interview whether he knew of the attempted breach or participated in it, Hamercheck said he was advised not to discuss the investigation. The report covered in several media sources was updated 16 hours ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,660 ✭✭✭✭ Timberrrrrrrr


    Morr unhinged ranting from TFG

    Witch-hunt blah blah blah, Hillary rabble rabble rabble, more witch-hunt blah blah blah




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭ kowloon


    Is the "culture war" not the new red menace? Maybe communism resonates better with older voters?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    It might be worth noting that the statement didn't claim Trump is still the president, just the 45th president and he didn't blame the Biden administration for the Covid deaths that have occurred so far this year. It makes the statement look like it had two scripters, A person acknowledging in 16 words the facts on who's president and the pandemic, and then the usual input from Trump. Maybe Rupert Murdoch's boardroom speech has got across to those alleging loyalty to Trump and reality is coming back to some in the GOP.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    This might be a wake-up call from within the GOP. Gov Chris Sununu (R) New Hampshire has told CNN that he will not be running for re-election, that the GOP should stop going after GOP members who voted approval of moves of the Biden admin plan to revitalise the national road & transport infrastructure, that he approves of the plan. He was addressing those who are of the Pro-Trump and Q-Anon variety in the GOP, along with the other GOP members.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭ Cody montana


    Sur, who needs roads?

    USA is totally screwed imo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    It's the economy that'll gain from actual jobs on the ground and factories and some in the GOP seem to recognize it. Media reports has some of the GOP congress members claiming to be pro the Biden plan, though they were against the plan at the vote. As James Carville of Clinton's campaign said "Its the economy, stupid". I think they've woken up to the fact that their voters know jobs are on the line now, with more cash in their pockets as a result.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,704 ✭✭✭✭ Leroy42


    Its a major plus talking point for Biden if Trump runs again.

    Trump talked incessantly about infrastructure, how he knew more than anyone, but he had 4 years and achieved nothing.

    Biden delivered with his 1st year.

    One gets stuff done, the other just talks about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    The chair of the GOP, Ronna Romney McDaniel, has confirmed that Joe Biden won the 2020 election. As the Dallas News reports it, She said "Joe Biden won the election, it sucks". Other media sources also reported that she conceded on the 18th last that Biden won the election.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭ Cody montana


    Pennsylvania Republican Sean Parnell is suspending his campaign for Senate.

    Parnell, endorsed in the race by Trump, lost a fight for custody of his children to his estranged wife, who had accused him of abuse in court testimony.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭ Cody montana


    Also

    Jan. 6 committee subpoenas five new Trump associates — Roger Stone, Alex Jones, Taylor Budowich, Dustin Stockton and Jennifer Lawrence



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,235 ✭✭✭✭ briany


    More and more, these statements descend into utterly nonsensical rambling. Before long, it will look like this :-




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭ aloyisious


    If he declines to cooperate with the investigation and ends up being prosecuted, there's no handy presidential pardon for Stone this time. Is the Jennifer Lawrence on the list the actress who dissed Trump?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,502 ✭✭✭✭ Rjd2


    Not good at all that for the Dems, Trump could have easily powered Parnell through a primary but he would have been toxic in a run off running on a MAGA type platform. I dunno who will win that primary, but it would be interesting if Toomey takes back his retirement. He may struggle to win a primary after voting to impeach Trump, but the state is not a Trump stronghold at all.

    I think looking at some of the awful candidates running for senate, parnell along with Greitens in MO and the freakshow that is the Ohio primary, Parnell was the biggest concern for the GOP. Walker in Georgia,,,who knows.

    He has so much baggage but maybe if its a wave year then he could win, but obviously shaping up to be the most interesting senate race atm.

    What's going to be fascinating to see who can Trump carry a primary for when it comes to 2022.



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