Heavyweight Boxing

Haha, i like whyte, no filter, he is what he is, he was always on about aj being manufactured and behind it all ajs not a nice guy. Hard not to like whyte.

Yeah was poor to watch, fury didnt land any major amount clean, but landed alot more than a scared wlad.

I think a fight against Whyte would sell pretty well in the UK and would be less risky than the rematch.

Still a KO risk, and he already KO'd Whyte. Please, spare us....

I see no real benefit in wasting time with this type fight. Happens when? Spring to summer 2022? Then another 6-9 months at least to a Usyk rematch?

Wilder/Fury or Usyk next is the best for AJ and the best for us

Just thinking here lads would someone like Lennox Lewis not be a good option to come in and show Joshua how to box like a big man?

I know Joshua is not in Lewis's league ability wise but surely he could teach him a few things and get him mentally tougher and maybe improve him a bit the same way Manny Stewart improved Lewis.

It really would be terrible for his legacy to dodge fights, it would have been blatantly obvious and he would never leave it down, do the -rematch, get bet again, just acknowledge how good usyk is and move on, reckon usyk wont stay too long, talks about family alot. He has done it all.

Don't they hate each other or something ?

Mad how right now its Mannys nephew that's teaching Fury how fight like a big man & Fury he already has the boxing ability to fall back on ,

drop the belt and do what though? fight fury? i suppose he makes more money but it would be a bigger beat down.

Wouldn't surprise me if he decides to take a warm up fight instead of the rematch & hopes some else takes care of Usyk ,Very hard to duck the fight as champion but now he can say he needs one fight to get the fire back or some other bullsh*t

Losing to Usyk twice in a row could be really really damaging , he'd be completely out of titles shots for maybe 2 years depending on how the other fights go,

It is funny when the A-side thinks they're being clever putting an immediate rematch clause in the contract only to realise they've now backed themselves into a corner and have no way clear way out of a rematch they won't win. Should’ve just left it as a standard mandatory, taken the loss and rebuilt from elsewhere.

Hard to know where either fighters head is really at but can't pick against Fury. Think he might do it lop-sided on points this time.

Fury > Usyk >>>>Wilder >> Joshua

I don't think Wilders chance of winning have changed since the last fight or even if he is focused or not for him its always going to be just about landing one big shot,

I think Fury has to do what he done last time and that's get on top of Wilder & tire him so that big shots not available after 3 rounds, One thng is Wilder knows what's coming now ,

Iv seen loads of clips of Wilder's camp & I'm convinced Scott is a con man ,

Everything time you hear him speak to Wilder everything is amazing you go , your the best, just gassing him up like he is talking to a kid trying a new sport for the first time, I also seen Wilder say Scott has thought me nothing he has just helped him remember things that's what your dealing with with Wilder an EGO out of control.

Scott been in his camp for years just can't see him changing things enough ,He probably just seen a chance to get paid & knew all he had to do was constantly stroke Wilder's ego to keep the job ,

All its takes is one ,

well you say that but it hasnt been the case against fury, he caught him clean in the 12th in the first fight with another flush shot as he fell and he still got up.

Your analysis is spot on. Cannot for the life of me understand the mentality people have that Joshua "left that one behind". He was outclassed.

Like yourself, I actually posted on here that Usyk wins this convincingly. Joshua has not faced a peak elite fighter in order to gauge his level. He is a one dimensional HW, extremely vulnerable due to the worst combination of suspect chin and lack of a 12 round gas tank.

It was inevitable that Usyk was going to make him work for every minute of every round. Usyk and his team watched this guy and knew his weaknesses. He was more aggressive here than against Chisora so that is saying something.

So many people blinkered when it comes to Joshua it's unbelievable. He is what he is, top 3 HW from this generation but the fact he can be beaten multiple ways is a huge black mark against him.

Wlad had no chin but his IQ allowed him to have success fighting by protecting it. Joshua for me has no chin, no stamina and no ring IQ under pressure and those are some pretty key components to be lacking.

Some highlight reel KOs against Dillian Whyte, washed up Wlad, Povetkin, Pulev, Martin, Breazeale etc... Don't change my mind. If anything it's brilliant work by match room to generate that kind of hype, but it's a really crap talent pool when youre staying away from Fury and Wilder.

First serious world class name and he was outclassed.

Unfortunately he's just not that good.