Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

In a move which might recoil on him, Trump is suing his niece and the NYT over coverage [release of] of his tax records. I won't link the move directly with his CFO's statement/admission that more court charges are [probably] coming down the line for Trump, just that the two may not be purely coincidental. He may [no pun] be trying to trump his CFO's statement by beginning the above case. It'll give both respondents a chance to reveal more of what they know/have access to in court which is risky for Trump if the knowledge has not been made public by either the prosecutor/s in NYC or the respondents. They may even call witnesses from the Trump side to rebut Trump's case in court as a sensible person would remind the witnesses they are not on nor liable for trial in respect of evidence they give against Trump himself. He's claiming they had an insidious plot against him to get his records.

That's why it probably won't go ahead.

So we are back to blaming the media again?

So if they don't show it they are suppressing the real stories because of their hate for Trump, and if they do show up and no actual supporters do it means they are heartbroken?

The lack of support is the story, plenty for the media to talk about. The wide angled shot showing nobody could be bothered to turn up, that like Trump himself, his supporters won't bother.

Trump doesn't win in 2016 without CNN. They gave him so much free publicity and yes obviously Fox done some work but without Jeff Zucker Trump does not become president.

Without Trump they and all other traditional media platforms right or left in America are screwed thus anything associated with Trump gets absurd coverage. MTG and Tucker have became much bigger stars due to the media obsession with trying to fill the Trump void.

CNN are an odd one, deserve huge criticism for 2016 but is still a relatively balanced channel (Acosta and Cuomo aside), but they are clearing fighting the temptation to go full MSNBC (Democrat propaganda channel aka Fox is for the GOP) as that is where the money is.

Its a broken model though though when so reliant on Trump I think we can both agree.

Judged by the track record of Trump's other business ventures, I'd deem that a success

In reality, Trump's good at faking the news and the media across the board doesn't resist making copy of it for several reasons [only one of which is 2nd amendment honest about telling the public the truth] the rest being to avoid losing sales. Several months back, a US newspaper cartoonist took a look at the US media and put up an image of a reader ranting at the media for lying about Trump and the election. The cartoon had the reader using a four-letter word beginning with the letter H to describe how much he very strongly felt about the media not telling the truth about Trump's success in the 2019 election.

I was around that time getting dispirited about CNN's coverage of Trump on it's late night news show as I saw it as being biased like FoxNews where Trump was/is concerned, only in a reverse aspect. That being said, I believe Trump is a pernicious evil eating away at the US ability to be a unified nation with his ability to play the media at their own game, it's all about the headlines for him.

That won’t go down well. If it’s true I’d love to see how the governor spins it. I’d pay cash money to see that press conference.

Shockingly the trump aides who were subpoenaed didn’t comply by the deadline of yesterday which as we know was most likely at the urging of trump himself. Btw, trump is saying he’ll invoke executive privilege which is grand escort he’s not the president anymore and so he can’t invoke it.

That would mean Trump is, in effect, trying to claim the documents etc subpoenaed are "presidential papers" as distinct from personal presidential documents [like those in libraries set up by former presidents to house their personal papers for viewing by the public in scholastic circumstances] in order to assert his "privilege immunity" claim. The cure for that would be to find amongst the documents he is claiming are "privileged" some of whose contents have already been revealed to the public by Trump and persuade a judge in camera that the claim is false. Get a judge/s to examine the claims veracity by looking at the documents contents and rule Trump had already put them in the public domain. Trump was very candid in public at times where it came to matters usually kept privileged by presidents.

Looking at a US civil rights issues page on Facebook, it claims that Don has told his Republicans supporters that if the GOP sorted out the 2020 election fraud issue, they shouldn't come out and vote in the 2022 and 2024 elections. It'd be nice if he was going to duck the chance of standing for election again, even if the reason he's giving is as fake as hell, one where the GOP is the culprit and not him.

https://amongthefray.wordpress.com/2021/10/14/trump-tells-republicans-not-to-vote-in-2022-or-2024/

@Quin_Dub

"it works for the only person that matters to Trump , himself."

To think that his supporters haven't worked that out.

Mind you ,if he does manage to destroy the GOP he will have done the States some service.(their 2 party system is a toxic anachronysm)

Heil to the Saviour.

He's still in the headlines far, far more than an ex-president ought to be, which is troubling. In typically Trumpian fashion, he has broken with protocol. He's not living the relatively quiet life of an ex-president. He's out doing rallies, he's on Fox News, he's publishing statements and remains very much in control of the Republican party. Yes, losing his Twitter account was a blow, but not a knockout one. When he actually starts facing some legal consequences for his outrageous behaviour while president, then he'll change his tune, but the process is so slow, I'm beginning to lose faith anything will happen on that front before the Republican party contests the 2022 midterms and possibly regains control over both chambers.

@Quin_Dub ,"Another claimed that the court had no jurisdiction as they were answerable only to God."

maybe they could claim that they were only answerable to the Dear Leader

The BBC World Service has reported Trump has gone to the USSC asking it to put a stop to the Committee hearings on matters it is investigating involving him as president are "executive-privileged" therefore outside the legal scope of the committee.