Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Saw one person on Twitter in the former camp (of people I follow or turn up in my timeline from outside Cycling Twitter). I think bafflement at Captain Mannix steering his ship to new waters took over pretty quickly from any discussion of the merits of the case.

"I can't carry shopping for six people"

I know that there is ageist prejudice against them, because of the demographic they're associated with, but it's quite easy to carry large amounts of shopping over walking distances with various hand carts (I have one and my wife has one), and they're widely available for purchase. You can even get electric-assist versions.

If that seems too inconguous, and since you do actually cycle, there are very large panniers you can get. You don't even have to cycle. You can just wheel the bike and let it carry the weight of the shopping.

I only mention these, because you could actually save yourself time, given it's faster walking, and get a bit of healthful walking in.

Also, if this were typical disjointed segments of infrastructure, up on the footpath or just with paint, the pushback would be a lot less. The councils have decided to build networks, which is where is the point where uptake really improves, as seen in Seville.

Yeah, this was probably the biggest single thing I ever carried.

Actually, I've used that old trailer/stroller for carrying large amounts of stuff by foot as well. It's very handy.

I have two children, both primary-school age. It's not my hobby either. It's my way of doing things. I don't cycle competitively and I'm not part of any club. I only ever cycled because I had places to go and things to carry. My wife is perfectly happy to do things this way, because we save thousands of euro every year.

Which now I think about it is another point of getting away from designing every street for domination by motorised vehicles. There is a large subsection of the population that could get by with less money, or have money to do other things if we didn't design the urban environment the way we do. There's a strong element of social justice in this, entirely at odds with Cap'n Mannix and his crusade against the Mamil.

This whole thread is about cycling infrastructure in an urban environment with ok public transport?

Again, nobody is saying everyone has to cycle. Most car journeys in the area we're talking about are under 5km and single-occupancy. And there is a clear latent desire for better facilities for walking and cycling. We've already tried designing the streets for everyone to drive, and we have the slowest transit times of any EU capital.

Actually, tell a lie, Bucharest has worse traffic than Dublin. And that's it for the EU.