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Wimbledon 2021 Monday, June 28 - Sunday, July 11 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Wouldn't say that tbh, Kerber can absorb a lot of power and return it with interest. Also, she leads their h2h 1-0.

    Fair enough, as I've said, I haven't been watching tennis much of late until recently - just going by their playing styles and what I've seen in the last week.

    I'm hoping Jabeur ensures I don't find out if I'm right or wrong!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    some steely resistance there from Jabeur

    that's the look the husband gets if he doesn't do the dishes.

    nevertheless Sabalenka's power wins through

    was hoping for more of a match


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Drop shot is working. Surprised not even more of it.

    Her last 2 were not the best. Put the hex on it!

    Impressive from sabalenka, not just her power and discipline, but the way she maintained it through the two sets. You'd normally expect a blip thrown in there somewhere. Good fight from jabeur, just overpowered today but a slam definitely within her ambit if the cards fall right i think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Wouldn't say that tbh, Kerber can absorb a lot of power and return it with interest. Also, she leads their h2h 1-0.

    Kerber into the semi final, I think she has a good chance of winning it out, as you said she's able to absorb a lot of power, has some variety to her game and has the experience of winning slams before which is important at this stage.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Fair f*cking play to Hurkacz by the way, entered here on a massive losing strresk, had only won one match since winning Miami and now makes a grand slam QF for the first time. An ageing Federer isn't the worst opponent to get either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Missed the beginning of the interview with Emma Raducanu...... was there any explanation about what exactly was wrong last night?

    (Not that I think we're necessarily entitled to an explanation! But I'm sure the question was asked)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Missed the beginning of the interview with Emma Raducanu...... was there any explanation about what exactly was wrong last night?

    (Not that I think we're necessarily entitled to an explanation! But I'm sure the question was asked)

    Said she didn't know why it happened but found it difficult to regulate her breathing and a couple of long rallies towards end of first set took a lot out of her. Said it was probably a combination of all the things that had gone on over the week, an accumulation. Medical advice was for her not to continue so she decided to follow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Yay, Annabel Croft to commentate on the Barty match!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Can't see Tomljanovic having much to trouble Barty with here, but Barty does find a way to lose to players she shouldn't at slams so who knows. I'm expecting a relatively easy win for Barty though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tomljanovic getting fairly schooled here.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Barty strolls through the first set, as predicted.

    I don't know if it was on the original schedule (probably not), but there's a women's doubles match on after this: Gauff/McNally vs Vesnina/Kudermetova. They couldn't have the men churning up the precious Centre Court turf in a 5-set doubles match. A 3-set doubles match involving Gauff makes a whole lot of sense to fill up the schedule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    All falling into place for Federer, what a joke ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    All falling into place for Federer, what a joke ...

    Still be surprised if he got to the final, probably better for his own sake he doesn't as Djokovic would murder him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    All falling into place for Federer, what a joke ...

    I'd be surprised if Berrettini doesn't beat him out the gate. Ye but things tend to fall into place for him, particularly at Wimbledon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Tomljanovic getting fairly schooled here.....

    she'd be more suited to volleyball or netball


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Turned up the aggression a notch there Tomljanovic but where was it for first set and three quarters? Far too little too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I'd be surprised if Berrettini doesn't beat him out the gate. Ye but things tend to fall into place for him, particularly at Wimbledon.


    Berretini is seeded to meet Djokovic in semis,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    Still be surprised if he got to the final, probably better for his own sake he doesn't as Djokovic would murder him!

    Don't know, he should, but he barely beat him in 2019 and I just think luck can only take you so far, this is his last chance at any slam, and I just think the tennis gods are gonna make it happen.

    Djokovic has a good few more chances...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Barty very good at diplomatically lying through her teeth, saying how great "Tommo" is.

    The crowd were very pleased to hear the announcement about the extra match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    klr87 wrote: »
    Barty very good at diplomatically lying through her teeth, saying how great "Tommo" is.

    The crowd were very pleased to hear the announcement about the extra match.

    what extra match ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Berretini is seeded to meet Djokovic in semis,

    Are you sure? I thought that was the winner of the Shapovalov match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    what extra match ?
    Women's doubles: Gauff/McNally vs Vesnina/Kudermetova. Only a show court is good enough for Gauff ovbviously.



    Meanwhile, the top women's seeds (Krejickova/Siniakova) are having to battle the wind and rain on an unroofed outer court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Are you sure? I thought that was the winner of the Shapovalov match?
    Correct: Djokovic vs Shap, and Fed. vs FAA/Berrettini are the likely SF matches:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Wimbledon_Championships_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_Singles#Finals


  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭B2021M


    klr87 wrote: »
    Women's doubles: Gauff/McNally vs Vesnina/Kudermetova. Only a show court is good enough for Gauff ovbviously.



    Meanwhile, the top women's seeds (Krejickova/Siniakova) are having to battle the wind and rain on an unroofed outer court.

    Completely agree. They need to have rules for who they put on show courts and not hide behind 'complex scheduling issues'...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Don't know, he should, but he barely beat him in 2019 and I just think luck can only take you so far, this is his last chance at any slam, and I just think the tennis gods are gonna make it happen.

    Djokovic has a good few more chances...

    Federer probably should have won that one alright, but, in the 2 years since, Djokovic is still playing at a similar level, but, Federer's level has clearly dropped. I think it would reflect very poorly on the current crop of players if Federer did make the final and for a very lopsided final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    klr87 wrote: »
    Barty very good at diplomatically lying through her teeth, saying how great "Tommo" is.

    well she is a fellow compatriot, and anyway what else can she say

    "oh i think she's cr@p and should take up hairdressing" :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,159 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    Federer probably should have won that one alright, but, in the 2 years since, Djokovic is still playing at a similar level, but, Federer's level has clearly dropped. I think it would reflect very poorly on the current crop of players if Federer did make the final and for a very lopsided final.

    He has an excellent chance of making the semis and considering he'll be 40 next month that probably says enough about the current crop already.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Really pleased with the women's SF line-up, particularly after the tripe we ended up with in Paris. The current world #1, two former #1's plus the #2 seed is a very good showing. Both matches will be worth watching. Whoever wins it'll be a great story and they'll all be worthy winners.

    Barty: World #1 vying for her second slam. Took a bit of flak for sitting out most of last year whilst all her points were safe. Returned this year and has mostly owned her ranking.

    Sabalenka: #2 seed who's been a prospect for years and always tipped as a future grand slam winner. Has won plenty of big titles but always failed to make her mark at the slams when it matters most. Would be quite fitting for her to get past the fourth round for the first time by going the whole way and winning it all.

    Kerber: A former world #1, former Wimbledon champion and three-time grand slam winner. With rumours abound this could be her final year on tour, ending her career with four grand slams would be some achievement.

    Pliskova: Once faced similar struggles at the slams like Sabalenka did, but is now one of the few active players to have made the SF's of all four slams. Has always had the talent but perhaps lacked the killer instinct, would be great for her to get the slamless #1 monkey off her back.

    Would be relatively happy with either outcome, but think I'm rooting for Sabalenka to beat Barty in the final now. Their rivalry has been ripening nicely for a quite some time, and at 4 match wins apiece, what better way to settle it than in the Wimbledon final? Hope Sabalenka can get it done.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Oh seems we're back. Well Barty and Djokovic had a good Wimbledon anyway!



  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    well, either than or everyone else had a particularly bad one...

    very few good matches on the mens side, looked to be more interesting stuff going on on the womens side from what I saw.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Well done Djokovic, pity the site was down last weekend, lots of sport to chat about, I wonder will Djokovic get the USO now ?


    Wouldn't surprise me if he fell at that last hurdle



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Didn't think much of the women's final tbh. Barty still leaves me cold as a player, don't know what it is but just can't get invested in her at all.


    The men's final was actually quite decent in spite of the inevitable result. Liked the partisan crowd too 😂


    Will be interesting to see who actually shows up for the Olympics, they're dropping like flies all the time. Even Djokovic has said he might not show up due to the latest round of restrictions announced. He's not happy with no fans, the quarantine arrangements and not being allowed watch other sports. I dunno, surely he'd stick it out for the week or ten days to have the chance of making a huge piece of history?


    Not a Nadal fan but actually rooting for him at the US Open. I'd like him to lead the alltime list, even if it's just for a few months. Think most of us assumed he would after Roland Garros!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Goatovic did it again.

    He looked a bit under pressure in the final I thought actually as the weight of the plan for the year was felt.

    e.g. losing the first set when he had it in the bag.

    Berrettini made too many silly shot choices though in the end to really trouble him.

    U.S Open should be interesting.

    Federer still breaking records though as the first former champion to go out in three sets with a bagel to finish.

    I suppose that he took it on the chin in a philosophical manner.

    Mind you it was demonstrated yet again that some of his "fans" are amongst the biggest idiots about.

    This attempt to put off Hurkacz (2:58 in the video) in the middle of a big point in the tie-break with a maniacal scream is frankly outrageous.

    In the end seemed to affect Federer more (maybe contributed to his dodgy knee wobble)




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Well done Djokovic, it was fairly obvious he was going to win it, but, Berrettini actually did better than I thought. Novak has a great opportunity to do the golden slam now.

    Federer looks finished, also pulled out of the Olympics so we might've seen the last of him completely.

    Congrats to Barty too, thought that the final never really got going. Don't really care one way or another for Barty, agree with yerwanthere123, something about her just leaves me cold too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    Can't say i am immediatley warming to the new site here, seems harded to filter down through topics :(


    Id be surprised if Djokovic plays the Olympics, i'd also be surprised if he dosen't...so lets park that. Nadal is ging to have a right crack off the US Open, I am assuming that the organisers are going to serendipitously end up with himself and Djokovic on opposite sides of the draw. Imagine a Nadal Djokovic final with both the first-to-21 and the calendar slam on the line? i'd probably stay up for that.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Think Federer will definitely play on for a little bit anyway, will probably make a decision of some form at the end of the season.


    He'd be kicking himself if he didn't play New York and then someone manages to take out Djokovic and Nadal. Obviously no guarantee he'd win it even then, but you never know.


    The end is in sight though and even he knows it too. The language was all very negative after his defeat, couldn't even confirm he'd be playing Wimbledon next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Didn't see much of Wimbledon with work and the Euros.

    Djokovic looked like he had a very easy run to the final, playing one seeded player to get to the semis.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    If it plays as quick as last year, I think he'll plays it as his last US. It won't suit Nadal, and someone could take ND out early. Same for the AO, farewell tour. Maybe one last Halle and Wimbledon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    If you think about Nadal had a bit of an advantage in the Slam race in the past year, he has had two French Open opportunities in the past 12 months, Djokovic (or indeed Federer) only had one Wimbledon....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    I'd be surprised if Djokovic opts out of the Olympics, given that he's never won the Gold, and he has a chance for a calendar "Golden Slam", never achieved by a man, although Graf did it in 1998. He is unlikely to have anywhere near as good a chance to win Olympic Gold in 2024, assuming he's still playing. But then he can be a contrary so-and-so, The only logical reason he might have to pull out is if he thinks it would improve his chances of winning the USO, which is only his 3rd best slam, and the most "open" of the men's slams in the Big 3 era.

    Back to Wimbledon: The 3 finals in a row on Saturday were all enjoyable, especially the Women's doubles. I never thought Djokovic was in danger against Berrettini, and he could and probably should have won it in straight sets.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    I'd be surprised too if Djokovic doesn't go to the Olympics, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity for him to achieve something that no man has done before and is unlikely to happen again, certainly not for a long long time. The only reason he wouldn't play in the Olympics is if he thinks it would affect his US Open chances. I think he's well capable of doing the golden slam and it would be great to see it achieved.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I see djokovic is heading to Tokyo, he'll win in at a canter. He wasn't great Sunday but played the big points well. Hard to know where mens tennis going, I was impressed with the young Canadian but hard to know.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The scoring structure of tennis is all about the big points of course and that's why ND is so effective, especially over 5 sets.

    Shapo probably gave him his toughest match in the tournament and showed some maturity compared to how he used lose the plot but remains to be seen if he can back that up now.

    The Olympics are obviously less of a focus than New York for ND but would be a bonus if he can do it. It's also 3 sets so he can be beaten more easily than over 5 for sure. the surface is similar to that of flushing meadows so not a bad warm up.

    Amazing that Djokovic has been able to brush off Wimbledon 2020 being cancelled and disqualification at the US last year when a title was certain at each to rally to be in this position now with 20.

    He's so hard to beat right now over 5 that it would take the collision of a real off day on his part with an everything goes in day from his opponent. But even then over 5 it's not certain. See RG final where he came back from the brink. Such is his self belief and power of marshalling his resources. He can get stronger relative to opponents in sets 3,4 and 5.

    As New York is sort of a surface that suits the game of many more players it's far from a gimme so every round should be interesting as he chases history. He will feel the pressure for sure. Should be a good one.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    I don't think Djokovic feels the pressure, certainly not like other players, he seems to thrive on the pressure and play better, as seen on the big points which he generally wins regardless of how he has played during the match up to that point, it's probably the main thing that sets him apart.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't agree with you on that.

    He certainly feels the pressure and says as much also.

    He can deal with it most times better than most players and especially over 5 sets.

    But he's human, not a machine. People tend to forget that at times and think that he should hit every ball in.

    E.g. the first set against Berrettini in the final he definitely tightened up when he was serving at 6-5 with the break and quickly lost his service game and then the tie-break.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    He thrives on the pressure, if he didn't he wouldn't have won all he has, obviously feels the pressure, but, not in the same way as other players, generally raises his game when the pressure is greatest, most players even Nadal and Federer tended to tighten up much more than Djokovic on the big points, there's generally only a handful of big points in tight matches and he generally comes out on top here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 luathungson


    Thank you so much,



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