Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

batman_oh · 03-07-2021 10:32PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Talking to a few friends around the country it’s pretty clear that many places are serving indoors and not following the letter of the law to the ninth degree. Some friends in the west of country are pinting away, some places in the east are doing as they please.

Was staying in Cavan last weekend and 2 local pubs had regulars inside. We were kept outside drinking. I'm sure it's going on in a lot of places by now

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2021 10:32PM

That event is making me cringe.

03-07-2021 10:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That event is making me cringe.

That event is idiocy on steroids.

Typical Ireland, actually.

lawrencesummers · 03-07-2021 10:34PM

I heard of a pub in a place that can’t be named that had to wake up the local constabulary officer and tell him go home.

It’s over.

03-07-2021 10:34PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Talking to a few friends around the country it’s pretty clear that many places are serving indoors and not following the letter of the law to the ninth degree. Some friends in the west of country are pinting away, some places in the east are doing as they please.

You can add the south to indoor pinting...

03-07-2021 10:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Front page of Business Post tomorrow:

And Sunday Times:

I wonder if the The Central banks warning might be listened to? I can’t imagine Paschal & McGrath are too happy at the moment.

namloc1980 · 03-07-2021 10:37PM

Another pilot event today in Croke Park. 8,000 fans was great, but the entire stadium was open so there was gigantic distances between groups. What are we learning from this compete nonsense?

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ACitizenErased · 03-07-2021 10:47PM

Sunday Independent reporting that Gardai will NOT be enforcing the domestic COVID pass.
https://twitter.com/AlanEnglish9/status/1411439121982185472?s=20

lawrencesummers · 03-07-2021 10:52PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Another pilot event today in Croke Park. 8,000 fans was great, but the entire stadium was open so there was gigantic distances between groups. What are we learning from this compete nonsense?

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We leaned that our government has all the ambition of a culled seal.

The Big Easy · 03-07-2021 10:54PM

Was at the Irish Open "pilot event" on Friday and was slightly flabbergasted by the email that came through days before saying mask wearing was compulsory at all times inside and outside. As many have said what can be gained from a pilot event with masks everywhere unless that's the plan going forward.

I wore a mask through the ticket check and then put it in my pocket for the rest of the day. The average person in Ireland is not on board for this nonsense and by my rough estimate it was 30/70 in terms of mask wearers to actual real life faces enjoying the outdoors.

I'm not sure if RTE reported this event accurately as I don't watch the news. I heard a general don't forget your mask maybe 3 or 4 times through the day. At one point the call was for "if you have a mask put it on for the next few minutes" probably because there were TV cameras around.

My God to go to such a beautiful green tree laden part of Ireland and wear a mask as you wander around is almost sacrilege. As with most of these nonsensical restrictions people only comply out of conformity and peer pressure and most people took off their mask when it wasn't an alienating thing to do.

The purpose of a pilot event is to test a return to normal conditions, those concerts are a joke and pure RTE propaganda.

Klonker · 03-07-2021 10:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Sunday Independent reporting that Gardai will NOT be enforcing the domestic COVID pass.
https://twitter.com/AlanEnglish9/status/1411439121982185472?s=20

Why are the government bothering at all so? Just say we advise not fully vaccinated people not to go and leave it at that. They'll go to a lot of cost and effort and it won't be enforced anyway. It feels like a token effort to appease NPHET which is just ridiculous, they are an advisory body.

giveitholly · 03-07-2021 11:09PM

Great to see one business owner call out this nonsense

https://twitter.com/Flanaganpubfood/status/1411430819206516738?s=19

Father Hernandez · 03-07-2021 11:13PM

Shamelessly robbed from the Journal.ie comments, too good not to share.

Hello? Is that the brewery? This is the government, we’re trying to organise a piss-up .

I’m sorry sir, this is a Spar.

JRant · 03-07-2021 11:17PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The fact that that headline is pitched as the Government defying NPHET is right there the entire problem!!

The Government are the ones supposed to be in charge! The only ones they're answerable to (supposedly!) is the electorate, not a group of ass-covering incompetent HSE staffers that have squandered billions of Euro through the mismanagement of our health service each year for decades.

Speaking of vast sums of money. Michael McNamara received a response from the HSE via a FOI request.

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1410932851005136901?s=19

Looks like the guts of 400 million has been spent to date on PCR testing. We'll probably clear half a billion before the year is out.

03-07-2021 11:21PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Another pilot event today in Croke Park. 8,000 fans was great, but the entire stadium was open so there was gigantic distances between groups. What are we learning from this compete nonsense?

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I was at this, posted in the main thread about it too. Constant reminders to wear a mask while in the ground even during the games. Nonsense. No one was seated within at least 20 seats of me on either direction. A charade tbh. Great hurling though.

Sobit1964 · 03-07-2021 11:21PM

JRant wrote: »

Speaking of vast sums of money. Michael McNamara received a response from the HSE via a FOI request.

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1410932851005136901?s=19

Looks like the guts of 400 million has been spent to date on PCR testing. We'll probably clear half a billion before the year is out.

Its no wonder Ireland continues to have their daily cases while other much larger EU countries are posting lower numbers.

Ireland could test a packet of tayto and get a positive result.

DebDynamite · 03-07-2021 11:27PM

lawred2 wrote: »

It's the usual "doing something to be seen to be doing something" bolloxology that we're great at. These sheep pen trials aren't worth a ha'penny f*ck. The last one didn't even allow people have a few drinks. There's nothing real world about them.

Exactly. The only thing it’s testing is how many asymptomatic people they can pick up using antigen testing.

The one in the Iveagh Gardens had no testing beforehand, but you couldn’t mix with anyone outside your pod/pen. This one has antigen testing, but you still can’t mix. What’s the point?!

SnuggyBear · 03-07-2021 11:27PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sheep penned in. Crowd look like they're having "fun".

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What are we actually learning from nonsense like this? Shouldn't we be testing real world conditions or is this what is in store for us for the foreseeable future?

Jesus that's a sad image

namloc1980 · 03-07-2021 11:27PM

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Is this real? Daily Mail probably spoofing but if we miss the 19th for EU travel it'll actually be final confirmation we're a banana republic.

ACitizenErased · 03-07-2021 11:29PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Is this real? Daily Mail probably spoofing but if we miss the 19th for EU travel it'll actually be final confirmation we're a banana republic.

I'd say that's a load of crap. Sunday Times says it's ready to go.

lawrencesummers · 03-07-2021 11:36PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Exactly the only thing it’s testing is how many asymptomatic people they can pick up using antigen testing.

The one in the Iveagh Gardens had no testing beforehand, but you couldn’t mix with anyone outside your pod/pen. This one has antigen testing, but you still can’t mix. What’s the point?!

Optics.

prunudo · 03-07-2021 11:40PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Optics.

Optics for who though? So government ministers can pat eachother on their backs saying what a great job their doing. So civil servants can show the value of their worth to their department heads to show how proactive they are.

The general public can see through their optics and the ones that think its a great way to test crowded gatherings would never even be going to an event anyway.

bucketybuck · 03-07-2021 11:50PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Optics.

Tony doesn't like optics, the virus loves the spirits they dispense.

bear1 · 04-07-2021 12:04AM

Seems the north is enjoying a busy hotel period and financial boost thanks to our government.
Makes my piss boil, we really screwed ourselves.
Just such an embarrassment, in Poland now and here you can do pretty much anything. Only thing left is masks indoors and yet the uptake here is worse than Ireland.
Just ridiculous. We can't even get the passport done right.
****in Disney land for a government without the fun.
Plus, amazing how the indoor saga calmed down with the government now..

stephenjmcd · 04-07-2021 12:07AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Is this real? Daily Mail probably spoofing but if we miss the 19th for EU travel it'll actually be final confirmation we're a banana republic.

Appearently according to the independent ministers were told there are a few issues to iron out such as what role if any do airlines play but as others have said Ireland is technically ready to join. It could be switched on in the morning if they wanted. As per the Irish times it's being looked at from the 19th to reopen hospitality, I'd say times might have better sources than the Irish daily mail.

This is also the mail which claimed to have seen irelands reopening plan back in late April.... turned out their guess was nowhere near reality

bear1 · 04-07-2021 12:11AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Appearently according to the independent ministers were told there are a few issues to iron out but as others have said Ireland is technically ready to join. It could be switched on in the morning if they wanted

This is also the mail which claimed to have seen irelands reopening plan back in late April.... turned out their guess was nowhere near reality

Which would mean what for anyone wanting to come to Ireland? The idiotic PCR test requirement right?

stephenjmcd · 04-07-2021 12:14AM

bear1 wrote: »

Which would mean what for anyone wanting to come to Ireland? The idiotic PCR test requirement right?

It's still a requirement to have a negative test but I've heard myself of some people arriving in Dublin last few days with negative test on their digital cert and immigration having the ability to verify it, so there's clearly some level of the system functional in airports

bear1 · 04-07-2021 12:16AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's still a requirement to have a negative test but I've heard myself of some people arriving in Dublin last few days with negative test on their digital cert and immigration having the ability to verify it, so there's clearly some level of the system functional in airports

I'm fully vaccinated and flying into Shannon on the 14th.
Have to get the PCR as well (brilliant rationale) but this government is absolutely on the ball with ballsing things up.

stephenjmcd · 04-07-2021 12:17AM

bear1 wrote: »

I'm fully vaccinated and flying into Shannon on the 14th.
Have to get the PCR as well (brilliant rationale) but this government is absolutely on the ball with ballsing things up.

Yup until the 19th unfortunately the only thing being vaccinated will get you out of would be MHQ if you were coming from a country on the list of course

JRant · 04-07-2021 12:18AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Optics.

Don't forget the soundbites. MM will be able to say we are trailing large events "with a view to reopening" or some such inane drivel. Of course, he'll give zero details on when that may be other than sometime in the near future but that he is following public health advice.

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