When can we fly to Spain.

M_Murphy57 · 18-06-2021 8:53am

Maz2016 wrote: »

Fully vaccinated, thinking of flying to the canaries in august. Would I be mad? A work colleague did his level best to talk me out of it today saying 4.5 hour flight, high risk for circulation of Covid. I’m unsure what to do. It should be ok - should it?

Even Tony H said at yesterdays briefing that vaccinated people should get on with living their lives.

The EU have mandated in law that vaccinated people should not have to quarantine.

Ignore your coworker, they are an idiot who doesnt understand how vaccines work.

You might as well not travel for fear of catching polio or TB.

Viscount Aggro · 18-06-2021 10:00am

You can't travel freely, even having got both vaccine shots. The little card from HSE centre is useless. Anyone could have filled in fake date, batch numbers.

M_Murphy57 · 18-06-2021 10:51am

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

You can't travel freely, even having got both vaccine shots. The little card from HSE centre is useless. Anyone could have filled in fake date, batch numbers.

The eu green cert comes in on 19/07, it's an EU wide, EU recognised QR code that you download. The poster above is talking about travel in August.

Also on other thread posters have reported their HSE vaccination card was accepted as proof of vaccination currently.

At the moment ireland still make vaccinated people quarantine but that doesnt mean you cant travel and quarantine will be gone for anyone using the green cert shortly = travel freely.

MargeS22 · 18-06-2021 12:25pm

Hi
Saw on another forum that some schools and creches are requiring that kids do not go to school/creche for 14days after coming back from vacation. Is this true? Due to fly out on 21st August to 28th August. School will probably start on 30th August. We won't be able to go if this will be a requirement from schools. Anyone know if this is true.

EagererBeaver · 18-06-2021 12:31pm

MargeS22 wrote: »

Hi
Saw on another forum that some schools and creches are requiring that kids do not go to school/creche for 14days after coming back from vacation. Is this true? Due to fly out on 21st August to 28th August. School will probably start on 30th August. We won't be able to go if this will be a requirement from schools. Anyone know if this is true.

Contact the school?

Skippette · 18-06-2021 1:27pm

Maz2016 wrote: »

Fully vaccinated, thinking of flying to the canaries in august. Would I be mad? A work colleague did his level best to talk me out of it today saying 4.5 hour flight, high risk for circulation of Covid. I’m unsure what to do. It should be ok - should it?

Had this conversation just the other day....why would you go away, it's not safe, what about varients....

Well, people on the airplane are either vaccinated or tested, airline is supposed to be using hepa filters..... there's more chance of me getting it in (insert popular restaurant/bar that was packed last weekend) where we don't know if people are vaccinated or not and they haven't been tested. Sure there's more chance of me getting it there.

Plus 2 weeks abroad, sunshine, eating/drinking outside, beach/pool/sightseeing all outside..... Ireland....well, 4 seasons in one day and 4 times the price

Skippette · 18-06-2021 1:30pm

Even better news!!! Looks like the Mask Mandate for outdoors is going. The below is taken from the Guardian:

[I]Spain to drop mask requirement outdoors from next weekend, PM announces

Masks will no longer need to be worn outdoors in Spain from next weeked, the prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, has announced.

“We’re going to hold a special cabinet meeting next Thursday to propose to Spanish society that the wearing of masks outdoors will cease to be compulsory from Saturday 26 June,” he said on Friday morning.

Masks have been compulsory on the streets and in public places since May 2020, although there are exemptions for children under the age of six, people exercising, and those with health conditions that make their use difficult or dangerous.

Sánchez made the announcement two days after saying that the lifting of the restriction was imminent thanks to Spain’s vaccination programme reaching “cruising speed”.[/I]

18-06-2021 1:51pm

Skippette wrote: »

Had this conversation just the other day....why would you go away, it's not safe, what about varients....

Well, people on the airplane are either vaccinated or tested, airline is supposed to be using hepa filters..... there's more chance of me getting it in (insert popular restaurant/bar that was packed last weekend) where we don't know if people are vaccinated or not and they haven't been tested. Sure there's more chance of me getting it there.

Plus 2 weeks abroad, sunshine, eating/drinking outside, beach/pool/sightseeing all outside..... Ireland....well, 4 seasons in one day and 4 times the price

What did they say to that?
A lot of people are so thick

Tenzor07 · 18-06-2021 2:15pm

Skippette wrote: »

Had this conversation just the other day....why would you go away, it's not safe, what about varients....
Well, people on the airplane are either vaccinated or tested, airline is supposed to be using hepa filters..... there's more chance of me getting it in (insert popular restaurant/bar that was packed last weekend) where we don't know if people are vaccinated or not and they haven't been tested. Sure there's more chance of me getting it there.
Plus 2 weeks abroad, sunshine, eating/drinking outside, beach/pool/sightseeing all outside..... Ireland....well, 4 seasons in one day and 4 times the price

Been on 21 flights, 7 countries and 4 Greek Islands in the past 10 months...

Not even so much as a common cold in that time..

Negative PCR tests each and every time..

Felt much safer in all those countries... though recently went outdoor dining in Dublin city and felt that if i'm going to get Covid it's here.. Asked for spare change 10 times in around 1 hour by maskless addicts/homeless up close at the table, and the boardwalks on the liffey were worse...

You really are safer abroad and on a plane full of the Vaccinated or Negative PCR'd

Skippette · 18-06-2021 3:29pm

Marine Layer wrote: »

What did they say to that?
A lot of people are so thick

I got one of those looks. Ya know the look ya get when the person knows they're not going to win this discussion. We'll agree to disagree kind of look, lol

I am conscience of other's feelings and attitudes towards the situation, same lady minds my children along with a number of other kids. So, I am going to keep my kids at home from when I return from holidays until they start school, so that's from the 18th till whenever they go back. It's a good 10 days at least. I wouldn't feel comfortable throwing them back in and don't think it would be fair given their concerns.

Van.Bosch · 18-06-2021 5:24pm

Am I right that if Ireland moves to Amber or green, then the only entry requirement for Spain is the online form? It seems the latest list of risk countries in the EU is starting to go down, we are on it as we are grey due to providing no data.

Van.Bosch · 18-06-2021 5:25pm

MargeS22 wrote: »

Hi
Saw on another forum that some schools and creches are requiring that kids do not go to school/creche for 14days after coming back from vacation. Is this true? Due to fly out on 21st August to 28th August. School will probably start on 30th August. We won't be able to go if this will be a requirement from schools. Anyone know if this is true.

This is interesting, it is the rule at present but would seem harsh given travel is allowed from 19th July. I imagine if you go to an EU country it will be lifted but no talk of it yet.

Maz2016 · 18-06-2021 7:18pm

Skippette wrote: »

Had this conversation just the other day....why would you go away, it's not safe, what about varients....

Well, people on the airplane are either vaccinated or tested, airline is supposed to be using hepa filters..... there's more chance of me getting it in (insert popular restaurant/bar that was packed last weekend) where we don't know if people are vaccinated or not and they haven't been tested. Sure there's more chance of me getting it there.

Plus 2 weeks abroad, sunshine, eating/drinking outside, beach/pool/sightseeing all outside..... Ireland....well, 4 seasons in one day and 4 times the price

Ha, thank you so much for this. Read this out to the person that said it to me and they did a complete 360. They completely agreed with your point. You have made up my mind for me - thank you

M_Murphy57 · 19-06-2021 8:21am

MargeS22 wrote: »

Hi
Saw on another forum that some schools and creches are requiring that kids do not go to school/creche for 14days after coming back from vacation. Is this true? Due to fly out on 21st August to 28th August. School will probably start on 30th August. We won't be able to go if this will be a requirement from schools. Anyone know if this is true.

It depends on the school or creche, best off just asking them. Theres no set rules (ours only ask for proof of a negative test, not that the travel was x days ago) - also in august the green cert applies which means inter EU with vaccination or negative test comes with no qustantine so youd hope schools (and some employers) will stop enforcing their own more punitive rules on people.

Absolute worst case your kids miss some school

Caranica · 19-06-2021 8:25am

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

It depends on the school or creche, best off just asking them. Theres no set rules (ours only ask for proof of a negative test, not that the travel was x days ago) - also in august the green cert applies which means inter EU with vaccination or negative test comes with no qustantine so youd hope schools (and some employers) will stop enforcing their own more punitive rules on people.

Absolute worst case your kids miss some school

Also, we really have no idea what the rules will be in August. Schools don't either. Once again it's a case of wait and see.

MargeS22 · 19-06-2021 4:17pm

Thanks for replies. It is all very up in the air. My kids can't miss school in September as one will be doing her communion in September /October. No date yet. I'll have to wait and see what happens on 19th July

Barna77 · 22-06-2021 1:28pm

I've booked flights to Madrid in September with Iberia.
Outbound flight is operated by Aer Lingus, which at the moment are not flying to Madrid.
AL better not cancel my flight again like last year.... :mad:

DamienDarts · 22-06-2021 1:39pm

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

The eu green cert comes in on 19/07, it's an EU wide, EU recognised QR code that you download. The poster above is talking about travel in August.

Also on other thread posters have reported their HSE vaccination card was accepted as proof of vaccination currently.

At the moment ireland still make vaccinated people quarantine but that doesnt mean you cant travel and quarantine will be gone for anyone using the green cert shortly = travel freely.

Myself and my wife and kids are going to Malaga on July 22nd.
Will it be easy to just download the EU green cert and just show it in Cork airport and Malaga airport with my passport?
Thanks.

freida · 22-06-2021 1:42pm

Barna77 wrote: »

I've booked flights to Madrid in September with Iberia.
Outbound flight is operated by Aer Lingus, which at the moment are not flying to Madrid.
AL better not cancel my flight again like last year.... :mad:

At 7pm yesterday evening someone posted on the france ferry and campsite thread that al had cancelled all flights to nantes for the rest of the season . Its worth a look at the post there. They usually keep the busy routes open eg. Malaga.

M_Murphy57 · 22-06-2021 1:46pm

DamienDarts wrote: »

Myself and my wife and kids are going to Malaga on July 22nd.
Will it be easy to just download the EU green cert and just show it in Cork airport and Malaga airport with my passport?
Thanks.

Its supposed to be available for download by 18th, will be emailed to the email address you gave at time of vaccine and you down load the QR.

That's the idea anyway. Possibility of teething problems, but you should be good for 22/07.

maestroamado · 26-06-2021 7:48am

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Am I right that if Ireland moves to Amber or green, then the only entry requirement for Spain is the online form? It seems the latest list of risk countries in the EU is starting to go down, we are on it as we are grey due to providing no data.

I will double check but i am pretty sure Spain has us listed as amber...
I think amber and grey the same but not sure...
To go to Spain today we need an Antigen test and PCR for return...

26-06-2021 10:56am

I presume if you fly into tenerife via the UK you'll need Ireland on your pax locater form at the Spanish health check?
There are no tests needed for visitors from the UK right? So does that mean if you fly fro Belfast via London to Spain or Tenerife, you need no test going out?

If you come back on the 930 pm Ryanair flight from tenerife on the 18th to Dublin,it arrives in on the 19th at 110am
If you have your hse vaccine card showing you double vaccinated will you be allowed board without a pcr?
Will the DCC be ready? It's 1 hour into the 15th

Btw Tenerife requires an antigen test for RoI,I do know that

26-06-2021 11:01am

Marine Layer wrote: »

I presume if you fly into tenerife via the UK you'll need Ireland on your pax locater form at the Spanish health check?
There are no tests needed for visitors from the UK right? So does that mean if you fly fro Belfast via London to Spain or Tenerife, you need no test going out?

If you come back on the 930 pm Ryanair flight from tenerife on the 18th to Dublin,it arrives in on the 19th at 110am
If you have your hse vaccine card showing you double vaccinated will you be allowed board without a pcr?
Will the DCC be ready? It's 1 hour into the 15th

Btw Tenerife requires an antigen test for RoI,I do know that

Please refer to my previous post on flying via UK.

There's time limits at play so belfast won't save you unless you lie.

26-06-2021 11:22am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Please refer to my previous post on flying via UK.

There's time limits at play so belfast won't save you unless you lie.

Well a 72hr window for delays with a pcr out surely ?
What would you have to lie about? The fact you're not resident in the UK ?

26-06-2021 11:32am

Marine Layer wrote: »

Well a 72hr window for delays with a pcr out surely ?
What would you have to lie about? The fact you're not resident in the UK ?

Just remember niners post vaguely, can't find it
I presume Niner you got to board in Dublin but the problem started in London?
Were you airside or did you go landside to transfer?
Where were you challenged,was it at the boarding gate?
Going out from Belfast, I'm talking BA which brings you directly into T5 airline side
Unlike the Dublin BA flights when transferring ,the Belfast pax coming from one UK Airport to another don't have to recharge security, its straight to the connecting flight gate you go
I'm assuming BA are better at this than Ryanair
The return on Ryanair is separate

26-06-2021 12:23pm

Marine Layer wrote: »

Well a 72hr window for delays with a pcr out surely ?
What would you have to lie about? The fact you're not resident in the UK ?

The fact that you came from Ireland. It's ALL countries in last 14 days and transiting under 12 hours doesn't count. So depending on the benefits, you either deny the uk part or deny the Ireland part

As I said in the other thread. Next time I find myself in a similar situation, I will be flying direct with a pcr.

26-06-2021 12:39pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The fact that you came from Ireland. It's ALL countries in last 14 days and transiting under 12 hours doesn't count. So depending on the benefits, you either deny the uk part or deny the Ireland part

As I said in the other thread. Next time I find myself in a similar situation, I will be flying direct with a pcr.

Reading your posts about it,it's the fact you had to go landside and checking in to another flight on Ryanair that caused the problem or rather drew the attention of check in staff that didn't know the rules
Flying one pnr on BA from Belfast, boarding would have to be refused there,not London if there was a problem stepping off that plane an internal flight,you disembark airside and simply walk down to the gate of the next flight

27-06-2021 2:02am

Marine Layer wrote: »

Reading your posts about it,it's the fact you had to go landside and checking in to another flight on Ryanair that caused the problem or rather drew the attention of check in staff that didn't know the rules
Flying one pnr on BA from Belfast, boarding would have to be refused there,not London if there was a problem stepping off that plane an internal flight,you disembark airside and simply walk down to the gate of the next flight

You still need to board the plane which is where I was stopped.

However my point really is that you should declare IRELAND as your origin, not the UK so whatever restrictions apply flying from Dublin, will still apply.

Morby · 27-06-2021 2:11am

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Its supposed to be available for download by 18th, will be emailed to the email address you gave at time of vaccine and you down load the QR.

That's the idea anyway. Possibility of teething problems, but you should be good for 22/07.

Gosh, I don't ever think I was asked for an email address when I went for my vaccine, either time and I know for fact that my parents weren't because they don't use email.

What happens people who were never asked for an email at the time of vaccination but want to avail of the DCC?

Atlantic Dawn · 27-06-2021 2:13am

Morby wrote: »

Gosh, I don't ever think I was asked for an email address when I went for my vaccine, either time and I know for fact that my parents weren't because they don't use email.

What happens people who were never asked for an email at the time of vaccination but want to avail of the DCC?

PPS number will link it in to your identity.

angel eyes 2012 · 27-06-2021 8:10am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

PPS number will link it in to your identity.

How will they do this. Apart from Motor Tax and maybe Revenue, I can't think of any other public body that I have knowingly given my email too.

maestroamado · 27-06-2021 8:49am

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Its supposed to be available for download by 18th, will be emailed to the email address you gave at time of vaccine and you down load the QR.

That's the idea anyway. Possibility of teething problems, but you should be good for 22/07.

There are no QR scanners at arrivals in Dublin Airport...

Maz2016 · 27-06-2021 11:45am

angel eyes 2012 wrote: »

How will they do this. Apart from Motor Tax and maybe Revenue, I can't think of any other public body that I have knowingly given my email too.

They do ask for your PPS number. Also when you get the flu vaccine they also ask for your PPS number.

maestroamado · 27-06-2021 11:54am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

PPS number will link it in to your identity.

i expect that when we get the travel passports the link will be our passport as that be the relevant travel document.
That system is already in place for the PCR and other tests.

maestroamado · 27-06-2021 12:22pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The fact that you came from Ireland. It's ALL countries in last 14 days and transiting under 12 hours doesn't count. So depending on the benefits, you either deny the uk part or deny the Ireland part

As I said in the other thread. Next time I find myself in a similar situation, I will be flying direct with a pcr.

Niner,

You seem to know whats happening on this.
Can you advise as what you mean about 12 hour as i have not being fallowing for last 12 days.
I am travelling from Belfast and just like to know if there be any restrictions.

Regards and thanks...

27-06-2021 12:39pm

maestroamado wrote: »

Niner,

You seem to know whats happening on this.
Can you advise as what you mean about 12 hour as i have not being fallowing for last 12 days.
I am travelling from Belfast and just like to know if there be any restrictions.

Regards and thanks...

A friend flew from Belfast to tenerife via Heathrow yesterday on BA/iberia
No Antigen asked for at Belfast
No questions at heathrow either despite their Dublin address
They didn't put Ireland on their Spanish health form
If you do you will be asked for the antigen
Just straight off one plane and 2 hrs later onto the other
I'll be doing the same shortly, when are you going?

27-06-2021 12:46pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You still need to board the plane which is where I was stopped.

However my point really is that you should declare IRELAND as your origin, not the UK so whatever restrictions apply flying from Dublin, will still apply.

If you declare Ireland, you will need an Antigen
Thats in the health form for Spain
Not the worst situation in the world
After the 19th a DCC showing you fully vaxxed will also do the trick
For the crack,I'll have my HSE card and the antigen
I'll at all times show the HSE card first and report back
I am Fully vaxxed
I will be reporting Ireland as my origin

M_Murphy57 · 27-06-2021 3:00pm

maestroamado wrote: »

There are no QR scanners at arrivals in Dublin Airport...

My understanding is it will be an app thats used to scan the QR code (called verified or verifia, something like that). Surely its not beyond our capability to get immigration officers armed with an app between now and the 19th? On a phone or tablet even?

Are you suggesting we won't accept the DCC due to a lack of QR scanners?!

maestroamado · 27-06-2021 4:09pm

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

My understanding is it will be an app thats used to scan the QR code (called verified or verifia, something like that). Surely its not beyond our capability to get immigration officers armed with an app between now and the 19th? On a phone or tablet even?

Are you suggesting we won't accept the DCC due to a lack of QR scanners?!

I am simply stating whats there, the scanners are the same as what is used for boarding pass whatever they are called.
At the moment immigration has to check, passport, location form and PCR result.
The PCR takes a bit of time as it need to be confirmed as PCR + that it is within the 72 hour time....

maestroamado · 27-06-2021 4:14pm

Marine Layer wrote: »

A friend flew from Belfast to tenerife via Heathrow yesterday on BA/iberia
No Antigen asked for at Belfast
No questions at heathrow either despite their Dublin address
They didn't put Ireland on their Spanish health form
If you do you will be asked for the antigen
Just straight off one plane and 2 hrs later onto the other
I'll be doing the same shortly, when are you going?

As i said i thought something happened as 12 hours were mentioned.
I thought i may have missed some info.

I will be fully vaccined so i expect to be ok as after 19th...

EagererBeaver · 28-06-2021 9:42am

Travellers from the UK to the Balearics now need a negative PCR or be fully vaccinated. Concerns about the Delta variant.

Barna77 · 28-06-2021 9:53am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Travellers from the UK to the Balearics now need a negative PCR or be fully vaccinated. Concerns about the Delta variant.

There's murder over there now.
Students from all over Spain on end of the year trips to Mallorca, mixed up in parties and some concert resulted in a major outbreak which has spread to the mainland.

Those students now feel victimised. Poor things :rolleyes:

Barney224 · 28-06-2021 11:23am

I'm still confused about the current rules for Spain from Ireland!

I am currently fully vaccinated. So, would I still need an antigen test before I travel? Or is the vaccine alone sufficient?

maestroamado · 28-06-2021 7:00pm

Barney224 wrote: »

I'm still confused about the current rules for Spain from Ireland!

I am currently fully vaccinated. So, would I still need an antigen test before I travel? Or is the vaccine alone sufficient?

You will need the test until the passport is introduced which i think is next week...

I checked after i posted..

What certificate or documentary proof will they require from me on my arrival in Spain, if I come from a risk country/area?
If you come from a country/area considered of risk, you must bring with you one of the supporting certificates/documents listed below:

EU Digital COVID Certificate IN DIGITAL FORMAT, issued by a member state of the European Union. It may contain one or more of the following documents proving that a person:

has been vaccinated against COVID-19
a diagnostic test [NAAT (nucleic acid amplification test, e.g. RT-PCR, RT-LAMP, TMA) /RAT (rapid antigen test)] has been performed and the result was negative.
has recovered from COVID-19, after having had the disease.

killbillvol2 · 28-06-2021 9:14pm

maestroamado wrote: »

You will need the test until the passport is introduced which i think is next week...

I checked after i posted..

What certificate or documentary proof will they require from me on my arrival in Spain, if I come from a risk country/area?
If you come from a country/area considered of risk, you must bring with you one of the supporting certificates/documents listed below:

EU Digital COVID Certificate IN DIGITAL FORMAT, issued by a member state of the European Union. It may contain one or more of the following documents proving that a person:

has been vaccinated against COVID-19
a diagnostic test [NAAT (nucleic acid amplification test, e.g. RT-PCR, RT-LAMP, TMA) /RAT (rapid antigen test)] has been performed and the result was negative.
has recovered from COVID-19, after having had the disease.

You keep posting about travel without having a clue what you're talking about. Ireland is not a risk country for a start.

killbillvol2 · 28-06-2021 9:26pm

Barney224 wrote: »

I'm still confused about the current rules for Spain from Ireland!

I am currently fully vaccinated. So, would I still need an antigen test before I travel? Or is the vaccine alone sufficient?

The Spanish government has a hugely detailed form that you fill out before travel. It generates a QR code which includes your name, your flight number and your seat number. I presume the airline checks this against your boarding pass.

The last part, which cannot be completed less than 48 hours before departure, gives three options to allow you to travel. Negative test, vaccinated, recovered. When you state that you've been vaccinated it asks which vaccine. When you input this the QR code is generated.

If you're travelling before the 19th of July the only proof of vaccination you'll have is the piece of card but there's anecdotal evidence that it's acceptable. If you're travelling after the 19th you should have the Digital Green Certificate.

So you don't need a test if you're vaccinated.

maestroamado · 28-06-2021 11:07pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

You keep posting about travel without having a clue what you're talking about. Ireland is not a risk country for a start.

Ireland is listed as amber... TELL ME I AM WRONG...

maestroamado · 28-06-2021 11:11pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

The Spanish government has a hugely detailed form that you fill out before travel. It generates a QR code which includes your name, your flight number and your seat number. I presume the airline checks this against your boarding pass.

The last part, which cannot be completed less than 48 hours before departure, gives three options to allow you to travel. Negative test, vaccinated, recovered. When you state that you've been vaccinated it asks which vaccine. When you input this the QR code is generated.

If you're travelling before the 19th of July the only proof of vaccination you'll have is the piece of card but there's anecdotal evidence that it's acceptable. If you're travelling after the 19th you should have the Digital Green Certificate.

So you don't need a test if you're vaccinated.

You don't know what you talking about, i returned from Spain FRIDAY JUNE 25th...
The SpTH are the health people in Spain and this form can be filled well in advance of travel and generated the QR code, really passenger locator.
The min from Ireland today is the Antigen which we can have at Dublin (randox) before we leave this and this is manually checked as we are not in Covid passport yet.
The system in Spain scans the QR and manually checks the Covid result.

showpony1 · 29-06-2021 2:15am

Does anyone know the current restriction level in Malaga/Benalmadena?
The only information i could find online was from a while ago mentioning bars etc closing at 10pm.
I had assumed it was approaching more normal life over there or is it still table service indoors in bars and closing early?

29-06-2021 6:51am

I can tell you one thing
Ireland IS currently listed as a risk country for Spain
Ergo an antigen is required or proof of full vaccination
The latter is a gamble as to whether your HSE vaccination card will do,a risk I wouldn't take,for the sake of the price of a test
After the 19th it becomes simple,you'll have your DCC

When can we fly to Spain.

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