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Anti-vaxxers

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  • #5902
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,747 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    mikeorange wrote: »
    Be sarcastic all you want, but he will be all over the news in time, trials, scandals, the lot, he will be the fall guy for the devastation caused by Covid

    The truth will come out about the origins and his involvement, day by day we are getting the breadcrumbs.

    So post it here for everyone to read.


  • #5903
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Lockdowns, mandatory masks and vaccine passports are all examples government initiated physiological and economic terrorism


  • #5904
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    mikeorange wrote: »
    Be sarcastic all you want, but he will be all over the news in time, trials, scandals, the lot, he will be the fall guy for the devastation caused by Covid

    The truth will come out about the origins and his involvement, day by day we are getting the breadcrumbs.
    You seem to have a real hard on for him.
    Kind of sad really but whatever floats your boat!


  • #5905
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,747 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Lockdowns, mandatory masks and vaccine passports are all examples government initiated physiological and economic terrorism

    A g'way with your pearl clutching dramatic language :pac:


  • #5906
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    GT89 wrote: »
    Lockdowns, mandatory masks and vaccine passports are all examples government initiated physiological and economic terrorism

    What is your opinion of the medical advice which they rely on to believe these are necessary impositions?


  • #5907
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mikeorange wrote: »
    Rand Paul is most famous one, who is also a doctor himself and is not getting vaccine as he had covid already

    Jim Jordan and a few others

    Write into google, Fauci senators

    Sorry duckduckgo

    Google sensors everything

    Its like YouTube kids for adults
    So your reference point is Jim Jordan, a politician who has had a history mired in controversy including the covering of sexual abuse in the Ohio University sex scandal. He's also an ardent support of Donald Trump who took to insulting Fauci and ignoring his advice throughout the pandemic.


    Next up is Rand Paul who is happy to push conspiracy including being a guest on Alex Jones over the years. So it's not unusual for him to be pushing conspiracy theories.



    So overall, you've got two senators of pretty questionable repute in general that are happy to play into Trumpist style tactics. But ultimately, neither of them have much going for them in terms of facts. There are one hundred sitting senators and you've chosen some of the loonier ones. I'm sure Ted Cruz and the likes may row in behind them too. It doesn't amount to much.
    GT89 wrote: »
    Lockdowns, mandatory masks and vaccine passports are all examples government initiated physiological and economic terrorism

    Do you mean psychological? Masks prevent the spread of a deadly virus, lockdowns were there for the same reason. We are exiting lockdown. Vaccine passports will exist because there are irresponsible idiots in the world who don't care about anyone beyond themselves or are too ignorant to see the danger covid poses.

    FYI, continuing to do great since vaccine. Hasn't had any negative impact... Meanwhile I know people who nearly died from covid. It was actually psychological and physically traumatic for them. But boohoo, you need to wear a mask and that really hits you badly, apparently.


  • #5908
    mikeorange
    Site Banned Posts: 58 ✭✭mikeorange


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So your reference point is Jim Jordan, a politician who has had a history mired in controversy including the covering of sexual abuse in the Ohio University sex scandal. He's also an ardent support of Donald Trump who took to insulting Fauci and ignoring his advice throughout the pandemic.


    Next up is Rand Paul who is happy to push conspiracy including being a guest on Alex Jones over the years. So it's not unusual for him to be pushing conspiracy theories.



    So overall, you've got two senators of pretty questionable repute in general that are happy to play into Trumpist style tactics. But ultimately, neither of them have much going for them in terms of facts. There are one hundred sitting senators and you've chosen some of the loonier ones. I'm sure Ted Cruz and the likes may row in behind them too. It doesn't amount to much.

    You can pick apart everyone like that, everyone in those positions have made mistakes

    US president is a pervert for ffs

    You probably got a C in biology at some stage?


  • #5909
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    mikeorange wrote: »
    He's implicated in the creation of Covid

    All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

    He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

    I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

    Wow, just came back to the tread and found this. Is this the guy who claimed to be a nurse earlier?

    Bat**** crazy level conspiracy.


  • #5910
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mikeorange wrote: »
    You can pick apart everyone like that, everyone in those positions have made mistakes

    US president is a pervert for ffs

    You probably got a C in biology at some stage?
    Thankfully, I haven't made a mistake remotely comparable to Jim Jordan's covering up large scale sexual abuse. So basically, you have two Senators with incredibly poor reputations pushing this nonsense... They already have a history of pushing nonsense so why should we believe them now? Have they provided some proof of Fauci doing some terrible criminal act? Or are they ranting? It seems to be the latter and you think because they hold political office, they're suddenly credible...


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  • #5911
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    What is your opinion of the medical advice which they rely on to believe these are necessary impositions?

    Unrealistic and doesn't take normal human behaviour into account


  • #5912
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Unrealistic and doesn't take normal human behaviour into account

    Vaccine passports and masks are unrealistic? What is unrealistic about them?


  • #5913
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Vaccine passports and masks are unrealistic? What is unrealistic about them?

    Vaccine passports are not unrealistic but aren't based on medical advice either these are decided by govt/EU policy not science. Masks and social distancing are unrealistic as it's unrealistic to expect people to stay apart and wear masks all the time.


  • #5914
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Vaccine passports are not unrealistic but aren't based on medical advice either these are decided by govt/EU policy not science. Masks and social distancing are unrealistic as it's unrealistic to expect people to stay apart and wear masks all the time.

    Minimising the chance of the virus passing from one region to another and is very much so being decided by the science. Mask wearing will cease to be mandatory as vaccination levels reach a good level, some will likely continue to wear them doing shop etc. And distancing is not permanent either. We're also over a year into it and masks have only seemed to have been treated as unrealistic expectations by conspiracy theorists...


  • #5915
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,031 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    GT89 wrote: »
    Vaccine passports are not unrealistic but aren't based on medical advice either these are decided by govt/EU policy not science. Masks and social distancing are unrealistic as it's unrealistic to expect people to stay apart and wear masks all the time.

    Any reason you've time to post here and not answer any questions put to you on the conspiracy theory forum?

    I mean, you're pretty much just repeating the same bunkum you posted and ran away from there on this thread instead.


  • #5916
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    GT89 wrote: »
    Vaccine passports are not unrealistic but aren't based on medical advice either these are decided by govt/EU policy not science. Masks and social distancing are unrealistic as it's unrealistic to expect people to stay apart and wear masks all the time.

    Speed limits must also be unrealistic, as it's unrealistic to expect people to drive that slow. Actually they are an example of government terrorism.


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  • #5917
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Minimising the chance of the virus passing from one region to another and is very much so being decided by the science. Mask wearing will cease to be mandatory as vaccination levels reach a good level, some will likely continue to wear them doing shop etc. And distancing is not permanent either. We're also over a year into it and masks have only seemed to have been treated as unrealistic expectations by conspiracy theorists...

    People wear them going into shops/public transport they don't wear them going into each other houses where they're likely at more risk of getting covid


  • #5918
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    People wear them going into shops/public transport they don't wear them going into each other houses where they're likely at more risk of getting covid

    You might not, but anyone I know wears one going into another person's house.


  • #5919
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    You might not, but anyone I know wears one going into another person's house.

    Younger folk like myself generally don't wear them in each others houses. I go to my friends house with like 5 lads none wearing masks.


  • #5920
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    Younger folk like myself generally don't wear them in each others houses. I go to my friends house with like 5 lads none wearing masks.

    Then it is quite likely that you or one of your ilk was the link resonsible in a chain of infections that killed someone.


  • #5921
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Younger folk like myself generally don't wear them in each others houses. I go to my friends house with like 5 lads none wearing masks.

    No one I know would be either stupid enough or that big a tool to do so.
    As you said yourself that's where people are more risk of catching it, so just stupid or a tool ?


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  • #5922
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    No one I know would be either stupid enough or that big a tool to do so.
    As you said yourself that's where people are more risk of catching it, so just stupid or a tool ?

    I don't personally give a rats arse about a disease that has about a 0.001% of killing me. I'm probably more likely to die being hit by a car than getting covid.


  • #5923
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    I don't personally give a rats arse about a disease that has about a 0.001% of killing me. I'm probably more likely to die being hit by a car than getting covid.

    Both then


  • #5924
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    Then it is quite likely that you or one of your ilk was the link resonsible in a chain of infections that killed someone.

    You likely passed flu to someone who died from it pre 2020 in a chain of infections. As Greta would say how dare you.


  • #5925
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    I don't personally give a rats arse about a disease that has about a 0.001% of killing me. I'm probably more likely to die being hit by a car than getting covid.

    And you don't give a rats arse about passing that disease on to someone who it will kill either, typical murderous anti-vax anti-mask selfishness.


  • #5926
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Both then

    I'm not stupid anyone who actually knows me would I'm very intelligent. Stupid people just blindly follow what the government tells them and doesn't question the narrative.


  • #5927
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    You likely passed flu to someone who died from it pre 2020 in a chain of infections. As Greta would say how dare you.

    I never ignored medical advice designed to protect others, you do which is typical selfish sociopath behaviour. How many are you prepared to kill because of your selfishness?


  • #5928
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    And you don't give a rats arse about passing that disease on to someone who it will kill either, typical murderous anti-vax anti-mask selfishness.

    The minscule chance I passed a disease to someone who died from it is not defined as murder in law.


  • #5929
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    I'm not stupid anyone who actually knows me would I'm very intelligent. Stupid people just blindly follow what the government tells them and doesn't question the narrative.

    Of course you are.


  • #5930
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    I never ignored medical advice designed to protect others, you do which is typical selfish sociopath behaviour. How many are you prepared to kill because of your selfishness?

    I'd say your some craic


  • #5931
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Of course you are.

    Speak to anyone who's ever met me


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  • #5932
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Speak to anyone who's ever met me

    Sure pass on their contact details


  • #5933
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    I'd say your some craic

    You'll never know but I do know you are a danger to elderly vunerable members of our society. A pure dangerous deluded conspiracy theory ladden menace.


  • #5934
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    You'll never know but I do know you are a danger to elderly vunerable members of our society. A pure dangerous deluded conspiracy theory ladden menace.

    Lol but I actually wear a mask in shops where it's legally required just where it's not required. If that's the case then nearly everyone under 25 is likely a danger to every geriatric in the country. If the elderly/vulnerable don't want to catch covid they can just stay indoors if not they can quit moaning and accept the risk.


  • #5935
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    Lol but I actually wear a mask in shops where it's legally required just where it's not required. If that's the case then nearly everyone under 25 is likely a danger to every geriatric in the country. If the elderly/vulnerable don't want to catch covid they can just stay indoors if not they can quit moaning and accept the risk.

    So people should restrict their movements and imprision themselfs in their homes because you don't give a rats arse.

    Sociopathic does sound accurate, but sure you're great craic so you should be tolerated.


  • #5936
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    I'm not stupid anyone who actually knows me would I'm very intelligent. Stupid people just blindly follow what the government tells them and doesn't question the narrative.

    That sounds a familar "a very stable genius"


  • #5937
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    So people should restrict their movements and imprision themselfs in their homes because you don't give a rats arse.

    Sociopathic does sound accurate, but sure you're great craic so you should be tolerated.

    Staying at home by choice is not imprisoning yourself. This is what many elderly/vulnerable people have been doing anyway regardless.


  • #5938
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭paul71


    GT89 wrote: »
    Staying at home by choice is not imprisoning yourself. This is what many elderly/vulnerable people have been doing anyway regardless.
    Not what you said, you said they should stay at home as a consequence of your selfish action to endanger them, leaving them with a potiential life or death decision because you want a bit of craic with your 5 mates in a house spreading a deadly disease.

    For a self proclaimed intelligant guy your are spouting an awful lot of contradictory guff.


  • #5939
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    paul71 wrote: »
    Not what you said, you said they should stay at home as a consequence of your selfish action to endanger them, leaving them with a potiential life or death decision because you want a bit of craic with your 5 mates in a house spreading a deadly disease.

    For a self proclaimed intelligant guy your are spouting an awful lot of contradictory guff.

    Most elderly/vulnerable are staying at home anyway so it's not like I'm putting them at risk


  • #5940
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    GT89 wrote: »
    actually knows me would I'm very intelligent.
    2 things here: Read what you actually typed out, smart fella.
    Secondly, this always holds true in my experience
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwFK1ImzcA

    The only people I've encountered in person who reckoned they're smart to the point of telling everyone that they're smart are actually just thick as cow shít and not smart enough to know that's what they are.


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  • #5941
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    2 things here: Read what you actually typed out, smart fella.
    Secondly, this always holds true in my experience
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwFK1ImzcA

    The only people I've encountered in person who reckoned they're smart to the point of telling everyone that they're smart are actually just thick as cow shít and not smart enough to know that's what they are.

    I'm using touch screen so it's easy to make mistakes


  • #5942
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    I'm using touch screen so it's to make mistakes

    Didn't even understand what they were saying did you.
    They weren't referring to the typo


  • #5943
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Didn't even understand what they were saying did you.
    They weren't referring to the typo

    Look if your just gonna go back and forth calling and not debate the actual issue at hand then there's no point debating you.


  • #5944
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    GT89 wrote: »
    Look if your just gonna go back and forth calling and not debate the actual issue at hand then there's no point debating you.
    Why is there any point debating you when you're apparently the smartest person here, as purported by the people who know you? Surely we're all merely intellectual peons compared to your mighty cranium, what you say should be law being so much smarter than us and there should be no debate because we don't know how to think as well as you.


  • #5945
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    A typical debate with covidians.

    Disagrees with your point
    No logic to back it up
    Use a stupid analogy
    Calls you selfish


  • #5946
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    Why is there any point debating you when you're apparently the smartest person here, as purported by the people who know you? Surely we're all merely intellectual peons compared to your mighty cranium, what you say should be law being so much smarter than us and there should be no debate because we don't know how to think as well as you.

    Okay I am against covid measures such as masks, health passports and lockdowns


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  • #5947
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    GT89 wrote: »
    A typical debate with covidians.

    Disagrees with your point
    No logic to back it up
    Use a stupid analogy
    Calls you selfish
    Where did I say I disagreed with any of your points? A link to a post or a quote of mine would be nice. YOu wouldn't be talking a load of aul nonsense then making a strawman where I'm some grandstander making a point, having you blow it apart with outstanding logic and reason, then resorting to pettily insulting you directly as a result of being obliterated in argument? Maybe I just like making fun of people who type foolish gibberish online and think they're great.


  • #5948
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    Where did I say I disagreed with any of your points? A link to a post or a quote of mine would be nice. YOu wouldn't be talking a load of aul nonsense then making a strawman where I'm some grandstander making a point, having you blow it apart with outstanding logic and reason, then resorting to pettily insulting you directly as a result of being obliterated in argument? Maybe I just like making fun of people who type foolish gibberish online and think they're great.

    My post wasn't directed at you


  • #5949
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    A typical debate with covidians.

    Disagrees with your point
    No logic to back it up
    Use a stupid analogy
    Calls you selfish


    You are patriotic..... Committed to staycations :)


  • #5950
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,747 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Younger folk like myself generally don't wear them in each others houses. I go to my friends house with like 5 lads none wearing masks.

    Must work at "full time mad bastàrd"

    And went to school at "the school for hard knocks"

    :rolleyes:


  • #5951
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,747 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Okay I am against covid measures such as masks, health passports and lockdowns

    But only for yourself, fùxk the elderly/vulnerable though.
    GT89 wrote: »
    Lol but I actually wear a mask in shops where it's legally required just where it's not required. If that's the case then nearly everyone under 25 is likely a danger to every geriatric in the country. If the elderly/vulnerable don't want to catch covid they can just stay indoors if not they can quit moaning and accept the risk.


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