Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

fm · 24-04-2021 12:21PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

If people think this will be in by June and Ireland by July, guess again.

It's not agreed in Europe yet. It's the plan that is on the table after consultation. It will be argued and ratified in time but as it's nearly may by now, in not hopeful of June

And Ireland will 100% miss whatever deadline is in place

"IT" issues could very well happen to slow down the rolling out of the cert, I mean what are the eu going to do about it if we are late starters?

24-04-2021 12:54PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

It’s grand though. The destination countries will accept negative tests and proof of vaccination. So holidays will happen. Great to see.

And you will still be subject to the additional costs and restrictions on return, so no different to now.

It's not realistic for me to isolate for 2 weeks everytime I travel home to see my kids.

fm wrote: »

"IT" issues could very well happen to slow down the rolling out of the cert, I mean what are the eu going to do about it if we are late starters?

In one way, it's a real excuse. We are ****e in that regard. We simple can't roll out it systems / changes with any speed in the Irish public sector. (No it's not the staff or the unions before that starts). We are the clowns that are begging for 21st century systems!

Happydays2020 · 24-04-2021 01:08PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

And you will still be subject to the additional costs and restrictions on return, so no different to now.

It's not realistic for me to isolate for 2 weeks everytime I travel home to see my kids.

In one way, it's a real excuse. We are ****e in that regard. We simple can't roll out it systems / changes with any speed in the Irish public sector. (No it's not the staff or the unions before that starts). We are the clowns that are begging for 21st century systems!

These restrictions are on the way out. We all know that. Things are reopening and that is a great thing.

24-04-2021 01:10PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

These restrictions are on the way out. We all know that. Things are reopening and that is a great thing.

Your very much the glass is half full aren't ya?

I remain very sceptical that we will see carefree international travel into Ireland by July. Albeit I will be delighted to be wrong

Mr. Karate · 24-04-2021 01:11PM

faceman wrote: »

Some more loosening of restrictions coming in from Monday in the Valencia (and Alicante province) in Spain

Bars and restaurants can now stay open till curfew at 10pm. (It’s currently 6pm). Capacity remains the same, 100% outdoors (with social distancing) and 30% indoors. Non essential shops opening time extended from 8pm to 10pm

This was a surprising announcement but I guess with a 14 day rate for the region in the 30’s for over a month now it’s hard to justify keeping restrictions.

Meanwhile here Dr. Death is back so no doubt we'll be having restrictions imposed again. Meanwhile Martin hinted that we could be in lockdown again for winter.

Happydays2020 · 24-04-2021 01:14PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Your very much the glass is half full aren't ya?

I remain very sceptical that we will see carefree international travel into Ireland by July. Albeit I will be delighted to be wrong

Absolutely glass half full. While I think you may well find that cloud in every silver lining.

I see it opening up a bit in late June and start to normalise in July and August but will be end of year/early next year before non-EU starts with normalise.

faceman · 24-04-2021 01:39PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Absolutely glass half full. While I think you may well find that cloud in every silver lining.

I see it opening up a bit in late June and start to normalise in July and August but will be end of year/early next year before non-EU starts with normalise.

I’d agree with Niner too, there is no incentive for the Irish government to support international travel. September at best before you see any meaningful international travel

Happydays2020 · 24-04-2021 01:51PM

faceman wrote: »

I’d agree with Niner too, there is no incentive for the Irish government to support international travel. September at best before you see any meaningful international travel

While no incentive to encourage, people will decide to do what they will do and it will be hard to push back.

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 04:29PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Your very much the glass is half full aren't ya?

I remain very sceptical that we will see carefree international travel into Ireland by July. Albeit I will be delighted to be wrong

I’m also very sceptical of summer travel. I always thought ( even with the great news of the vaccines last December) it would be at least the autumn before travel ( if it is actually ever allowed again) might begin to resume. I’ll be honest though i’m finding it very hard to see that light glimmering at the end of the tunnel for the future of travel.

I see RTE running the headline of one case in Switzerland of the double penetration mutant or whatever it’s called. Doesn’t bode too well for future travel if this is going to be the hysteria.

Not to mention Holohan back in the driving seat and cases on the rise you’ll be lucky to leave your county in the summer nevermind the country.

acequion · 24-04-2021 04:43PM

Happydays, I love your optimism, I really do, even your username gladdens the heart when I see it. But I'm more inclined to agree with the more pessimistic because we have a shyt show in Govt who have long since given up any pretence at caring about balance or caring about their citizens. You have Coveney [that we thought was our saviour, more fool us] claiming that travel is "illegal" and when asked what about aviation he ranted, not unlike the other tunnel visioned fanatics, that public health must come first, in order words tough luck for aviation. Then you have that gobshyte Donnelly publically stating that he won't apologise to the EU for his MHQ, you've people like Roisin Shorthall, who I would have thought a more measured politician, saying we're not going far enough. And as another poster said, Dr Death is back. Add that to the very obvious fact that they don't want us travelling and will do everything in their power to stop us for as long as they can.

Now that said, travel isn't illegal, we just have to be more imaginative and resourceful about how we do it. I do think it should be ok longer term, though I am worried about long lasting consequences but we will get back our right to travel. But short term is not looking great.

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 04:54PM

acequion wrote: »

Happydays, I love your optimism, I really do, even your username gladdens the heart when I see it. But I'm more inclined to agree with the more pessimistic because we have a shyt show in Govt who have long since given up any pretence at caring about balance or caring about their citizens. You have Coveney [that we thought was our saviour, more fool us] claiming that travel is "illegal" and when asked what about aviation he ranted, not unlike the other tunnel visioned fanatics, that public health must come first, in order words tough luck for aviation. Then you have that gobshyte Donnelly publically stating that he won't apologise to the EU for his MHQ, you've people like Roisin Shorthall, who I would have thought a more measured politician, saying we're not going far enough. And as another poster said, Dr Death is back. Add that to the very obvious fact that they don't want us travelling and will do everything in their power to stop us for as long as they can.

Now that said, travel isn't illegal, we just have to be more imaginative and resourceful about how we do it. I do think it should be ok longer term, though I am worried about long lasting consequences but we will get back our right to travel. But short term is not looking great.

He dead right, only problem was that it was a bit too late should have been March last. Anyway post vaccination there will be a slow take up of airtravel I'd say as the days of cheap mass travel are comin to an end . Some really nice places have been ruined by masses destroying their natural beauty over the last 40 years or so.

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 04:58PM

saabsaab wrote: »

He dead right, only problem was that it was a bit too late should have been March last. Anyway post vaccination there will be a slow take up of airtravel I'd say as the days of cheap mass travel are comin to an end . Some really nice places have been ruined by masses destroying their natural beauty over the last 40 years or so.

You should post that on the climate change shyte forums , they’ll love your input on that. You’ll be a big hit on there;)

Del Griffith · 24-04-2021 04:59PM

saabsaab wrote: »

He dead right, only problem was that it was a bit too late should have been March last. Anyway post vaccination there will be a slow take up of airtravel I'd say as the days of cheap mass travel are comin to an end . Some really nice places have been ruined by masses destroying their natural beauty over the last 40 years or so.

Eamonn tree hugger Ryan is that you?

If I brake my car down the road after running someone over, would I be dead right not to apologise? Sure it's the right thing to do.. only late

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 05:02PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

You should post that on the climate change shyte forums , they’ll love your input on that. You’ll be a big hit on there;)

You should yourself.

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 05:03PM

saabsaab wrote: »

You should yourself.

Nah, no interest to be honest.

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 05:06PM

'According to the CSO, the revenue foregone due to the excise exemption on aviation fuel was €494 million in 2016.'

This is very unfair they should pay just like everyone else.

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 05:08PM

saabsaab wrote: »

'According to the CSO, the revenue foregone due to the excise exemption on aviation fuel was €494 million in 2016.'

This is very unfair they should pay just like everyone else.

Why? Thanks to low aviation fuel costs low income people got to experience travelling the world because it was more affordable. Don’t forget aviation is worth 9 billion to the economy each year.

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 05:11PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Why? Thanks to low aviation fuel costs low income people got to experience travelling the world.

At what cost? To services here, the environment the places they destroy.

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 05:12PM

saabsaab wrote: »

At what cost? To services here, the environment the places they destroy.

Show me the places that are destroyed, what nonsense. Furthermore tourist spots rely on tourism for their economies.

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 05:27PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Show me the places that are destroyed, what nonsense. Furthermore tourist spots rely on tourism for their economies.

Here is a list many more online. Why should airlines get away without paying excise on fuel? It hides the true cost to us all.

https://www.insider.com/cities-hurt-by-tourism-2017-12

Micky 32 · 24-04-2021 05:32PM

These destroyed places don’t seem to be putting them off wanting tourist back. The likes of Greece etc are desperate to get tourists back. Chewing gum and wine stains lol. Go to Dublin and you’ll see chewing gun, vomit and blood stains and it’s not tourists leaving them behind lol

Anyway so what if aviation fuel is cheap. It’s cheaper to fly.

Corholio · 24-04-2021 05:34PM

So it's 'destroyed tourist places' now? This anti-travel mask is slipping by the day in here. There's plenty of posters who I don't agree with here but at least put points decently across and even softened my stance on some things, but others.....oof.

saabsaab · 24-04-2021 06:23PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

These destroyed places don’t seem to be putting them off wanting tourist back. The likes of Greece etc are desperate to get tourists back. Chewing gum and wine stains lol. Go to Dublin and you’ll see chewing gun, vomit and blood stains and it’s not tourists leaving them behind lol

Anyway so what if aviation fuel is cheap. It’s cheaper to fly.

It's artificially low. Let them pay their fair share. Mass air travel fueled this pandemic and made it very hard to control. We were lucky this time with only 1% death rate, what if it was 40% or even 10%? We need to be able to close down travel far quicker in future to avoid a complete disaster in the future.

Del Griffith · 24-04-2021 08:52PM

Corholio wrote: »

So it's 'destroyed tourist places' now? This anti-travel mask is slipping by the day in here. There's plenty of posters who I don't agree with here but at least put points decently across and even softened my stance on some things, but others.....oof.

Its good, real agendas starting to come to light from behind the veil of nonsensical covid bull****.

Id wager there's plenty more out there, in power too, are hoping to piggyback on the fear of covid as a means to their own ends.

KanyeSouthEast · 24-04-2021 08:54PM

I can’t say it enough but there are some very strange people being exposed throughout this pandemic. I’m beginning to think there’s some in this country who would be happy If nobody ever left the country again. It’s very weird.

Kramer · 24-04-2021 08:55PM

saabsaab wrote: »

we need to be able to close down travel far quicker in future to avoid a complete disaster in the future.

Why take the chance? It's obviously destroying tourist areas & the climate already, as well as spreading pandemics.
Close her down now!
Lockdown abú!!!

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So, anyone travelled recently? How is everyone finding it?

Corholio · 24-04-2021 09:05PM

Anywhere to see the front page properly of Business Post tomorrow? Bottom headline 'Outdoor dining and intercounty travel to return in June and July'

The way headline is worded makes it seem intercounty travel won't be until July.

https://twitter.com/businessposthq/status/1386062414806986756?s=19

24-04-2021 09:05PM

Kramer wrote: »

So, anyone travelled recently? How is everyone finding it?

The travel was fine but long. No direct flights at the moment so had to overnight in a larger city. PCR and masks of course.

Haven't seen the kids since Christmas so no question it was worth it for me. Wouldn't be traveling just for the fun of it at the moment though.

Where I am, curfew in effect and masks outside. Shops, cafes and restaurants open for outdoor dining which is fine as weather is great. We would have been a park family anyway so no change there. Sip my water, read my book and kids and dog running themselves to an early bed.

I'm obviously biased, I need travel to stay open to see my family.

Kramer · 24-04-2021 09:10PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The travel was fine but long. No direct flights at the moment so had to overnight in a larger city. PCR and masks of course.

Delighted to hear it went well for you & your family. Did you travel though Dublin airport? If so, how was it?
Obviously accepting everyone travelling will have good reason, a negative test etc., interested in how people are getting on with airlines, immigration etc.

But good to know it went well for you.

24-04-2021 11:13PM

Kramer wrote: »

Delighted to hear it went well for you & your family. Did you travel though Dublin airport? If so, how was it?
Obviously accepting everyone travelling will have good reason, a negative test etc., interested in how people are getting on with airlines, immigration etc.

But good to know it went well for you.

If you are genuine, you are genuine. Airports Grand and so is boarding.

My mask broke and the spare I had was one of those crappy n95 ones that pulls at the ears. That was the worst part as it was hurting me but my own fault as well, I'll stock up and decent ones next time

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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