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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    robinph wrote: »
    I'd dispute the claim about a spectator sport with a few thousand nationally watching from a muddy hillside is bringing enjoyment to more people. How many people are actually physically going to watch gaa matches every week of the year, or even once a month on average across the country?

    Get road racing back and a few 10s of thousands running in a regional 10km or half marathon every other month, 13,000 people parkrunning every week plus however many juniors there are on a Sunday, then weekly club races or local races around the country each week each with 100-200 or so taking part and I think there would easily be more people taking part in athletics than being stood around watching others play a sport.

    There is also of course the health benefits for the country are far better served by getting people out running than letting them stand around shouting at other people running after various shaped balls.

    Dispute away...a few thousand nationally watching from a muddy hillside makes your views on the GAA very clear. If you are trying to argue that the numbers parkrunning or racing comes within an arses roar of those taking part in GAA or spectating then you're seriously out of touch with reality


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    So much uproar? Its forgotten about already. Dublin suspended their own manager to calm to curtain twitchers, there was no suspension from outside the county.

    We all love running but we have to accept it is a sport that doesn't put bums on seats or get the general population excited. I'd be more interested in how some other minority sports have got the go ahead when athletics hasn't

    I would think that running is by far the most likely sport that any member of the general public participates in. The problem for athletics though is the vast majority of people don't consider themselves as taking part in the sport when the go for a run, probably not even when they go for a parkrun or run in the majority of other events they may pay for, up to and including the marathon.

    Bet you could ask all the people who run Dublin marathon, even the day afterwards, what sports they do and the majority would still forgot to include running. But going for one round of golf a year or a kick about in the park with jumpers for goalposts and they would say they occasionally play golf and football.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    robinph wrote: »
    I would think that running is by far the most likely sport that any member of the general public participates in. The problem for athletics though is the vast majority of people don't consider themselves as taking part in the sport when the go for a run, probably not even when they go for a parkrun or run in the majority of other events they may pay for, up to and including the marathon.

    Bet you could ask all the people who run Dublin marathon, even the day afterwards, what sports they do and the majority would still forgot to include running. But going for one round of golf a year or a kick about in the park with jumpers for goalposts and they would say they occasionally play golf and football.

    So running is bigger than the GAA? :pac::pac::pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    So running is bigger than the GAA? :pac::pac::pac:

    Try reading what I posted again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    robinph wrote: »
    Try reading what I posted again.

    "Running is by far the most likely sport that any member of the general public participates in"

    That's very clear to me. It'll be a shock to the GAA to see this but i think they'll get over it.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    "Running is by far the most likely sport that any member of the general public participates in"

    That's very clear to me. It'll be a shock to the GAA to see this but i think they'll get over it.

    What percentage of the population go out for a run at least once or twice a week?

    Would that be more or less than the number of people playing GAA every week? Remember that anyone who is playing GAA is also a runner, or they aren't training properly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    robinph wrote: »
    Remember that anyone who is playing GAA is also a runner, or they aren't training properly.

    Is that really your argument...sure the walking community must be in uproar seeing as everybody walks in most sports. I'm out if that's the best you can do...GAA players are actually runners but they just don't know it :eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Is that really your argument...sure the walking community must be in uproar seeing as everybody walks in most sports. I'm out if that's the best you can do...GAA players are actually runners but they just don't know it :eek:

    Yes, that's the point.

    Athletics is by far the biggest sport by participation but most people don't consider themselves as having anything to do with the sport which makes it difficult for the sports governing bodies to represent themselves against other sports which have lower participation but have the ability to sell tickets for people to watch so have loads of money to lobby on their behalf. That's where the discussion started from about governing bodies not doing as well on behalf for some sports.

    Athletics can't sell tickets in the same way for people to watch, but far more people "play" than any other activity... Well other than walking as you say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    robinph wrote: »
    Yes, that's the point.

    Athletics is by far the biggest sport by participation but most people don't consider themselves as having anything to do with the sport which makes it difficult for the sports governing bodies to represent themselves against other sports which have lower participation but have the ability to sell tickets for people to watch so have loads of money to lobby on their behalf. That's where the discussion started from about governing bodies not doing as well on behalf for some sports.

    Athletics can't sell tickets in the same way for people to watch, but far more people "play" than any other activity... Well other than walking as you say.

    The government are trying to allow events which will provide enjoyment to those who enjoy watching sport...a huge group. Runners have been allowed run while many other sports have not even been allowed train. We have done better than most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    The government are trying to allow events which will provide enjoyment to those who enjoy watching sport...a huge group. Runners have been allowed run while many other sports have not even been allowed train. We have done better than most.

    Hang on. I'm not buying that. If it was simply down to providing enjoyment to those watching from home, why were they not classified as elite from January to April? The public could have done with a lift during that miserable stretch after all...

    "Allowed run" by the way? As in, we have been fortunate enough to be allowed to leave our homes and run around our locality? Lucky us!

    Much more to athletics than road runners by the way. Most of us have had our training totally disrupted (sprinters, jumpers, throwers, middle distance runners).

    Mind you, Robin, that's a mental stretch to classify GAA players as runners. I can't support your argument there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Hang on. I'm not buying that. If it was simply down to providing enjoyment to those watching from home, why were they not classified as elite from January to April? The public could have done with a lift during that miserable stretch after all...

    January to April is the league, nobody really cares about it. The championship is the thing. It's what gets the blood flowing. It is us, our national sport, the heartbeat of most towns and villages, the Sunday Game, Joe Brolly...Anybody who thinks athletics is even on the same page as the GAA is deluded


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Chivito550 wrote: »

    Much more to athletics than road runners by the way. Most of us have had our training totally disrupted (sprinters, jumpers, throwers, middle distance runners).

    This I get but it is something practically all other sports have had to suffer. It hasn't been a good time for anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    I'll explain verrrryyyy slowwwwllllyyy....January to April is the league, nobody really cares about it. The championship is the thing. It's what gets the blood flowing. It is us, our national sport, the heartbeat of most towns and villages, the Sunday Game, Joe Brolly...Anybody who thinks athletics is even on the same page as the GAA is deluded

    All irrelevant. The government have set down rules for sport during this Covid sh1tshow. All sports should have to follow it the same. After all the virus "doesn't care" that Irish people are more interested in GAA. It just highlights further that a lot of this is no longer about the virus.

    They should have just classified senior intercounty as elite sport the whole time. At least then it would be clear. Instead they are picking and choosing when they are considered elite. They were elite up until December. Not elite in January. Now they are elite again. Total b0ll0cks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Zero covid as a policy is one extreme which NPHET would possibly like to follow. No restrictions is the opposite end of the scale. The government, rightly or wrongly, decided that neither was appropriate. They decided to allow certain sports for their own reasons. GAA was always going to be near the top of the list...mass participation events like running races were always going to be bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    January to April is the league, nobody really cares about it. The championship is the thing. It's what gets the blood flowing. It is us, our national sport, the heartbeat of most towns and villages, the Sunday Game, Joe Brolly...Anybody who thinks athletics is even on the same page as the GAA is deluded

    We have no national sport.

    That’s just propaganda.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    We have no national sport.

    That’s just propaganda.

    Yeah it's rubbish. I know two people. Two. Who actually give a crap about GAA both Dublin season ticket holders...of all the people I know, two of them are actually genuinely interested in it. People (myself included) are more invested in the english football teams they support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Ceepo wrote: »
    LOI is semi pro and are employed/contracted to a particular club and get paid. As such there's an industry around it, similar to horse racing.
    That not the case with gaa.

    I'm not disagree with you btw, just pointing out how inconsistent the whole thing is.
    2 people playing golf, members of a inter-county panal training in a indoor gym. Bubble or not, its BS.

    Div 1 is not semi pro.

    All very inconsistent though.

    Interesting to see if the swimming staff team might have to quarantine if they go to the comp in eastern Europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Div 1 is not semi pro.

    All very inconsistent though.

    Interesting to see if the swimming staff team might have to quarantine if they go to the comp in eastern Europe

    Not 100% about swimming, but if its anything like other "eilte" athletes, the athletes themselves should be exempt for quarantine, but I suppose that would depend on the country that they are travelling to.
    Dont know if the entourage are subject to the same rules.


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Yeah it's rubbish. I know two people. Two. Who actually give a crap about GAA both Dublin season ticket holders...of all the people I know, two of them are actually genuinely interested in it. People (myself included) are more invested in the english football teams they support.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2021/0126/1192163-gaelic-games-remains-irelands-most-popular-sport/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Yeah it's rubbish. I know two people. Two. Who actually give a crap about GAA both Dublin season ticket holders...of all the people I know, two of them are actually genuinely interested in it. People (myself included) are more invested in the english football teams they support.

    I don't think you and your friends are the GAA's target market in fairness.
    Inner city football jersey wearer in I don't like GAA shocker. :pac:

    The GAA does far more for this country than sink estate Dubs will ever realise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    There's no question Gaelic football is the most popular sport in the country. This can't be argued. Purely anecdotal but I know probably over 100 people personally who are mad into it.

    But this isn't about what sport is popular and what is less so. This is supposed to be about a virus. Therefore all outdoor sporting competitions that have been deemed non-elite should be treated the same, and should follow the same roadmap back.

    Saying that this is a move to lift the spirits of the nation is total BS. The government do not give a f**k about any of us. That is fairly clear throughout this pandemic. If they cared about us then perhaps they would not have halted housing construction and caused a significant inflation in the price of houses, eroding the savings that those working from home have made, and making houses even more unaffordable for those who have not been able to work at all during this.

    Don't for a second think the government cares about any of us. Don't be so foolish. And don't think fast tracking senior intercounty GAA's return is some mental health investment they are making on behalf of the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    There's no question Gaelic football is the most popular sport in the country. This can't be argued. Purely anecdotal but I know probably over 100 people personally who are mad into it.

    But this isn't about what sport is popular and what is less so. This is supposed to be about a virus. Therefore all outdoor sporting competitions that have been deemed non-elite should be treated the same, and should follow the same roadmap back.

    Saying that this is a move to lift the spirits of the nation is total BS. The government do not give a f**k about any of us. That is fairly clear throughout this pandemic. If they cared about us then perhaps they would not have halted housing construction and caused a significant inflation in the price of houses, eroding the savings that those working from home have made, and making houses even more unaffordable for those who have not been able to work at all during this.

    Don't for a second think the government cares about any of us. Don't be so foolish. And don't think fast tracking senior intercounty GAA's return is some mental health investment they are making on behalf of the public.

    Both athletics and GAA are outdoor sports so if opened together with leaving of indoor facilities closed they both pose no risk to numbers at all.

    The NPHET team are devoid of personality or social lives so they don't make considerations for this, it's up to Govt ministers and sports organizations to lobby for opening up with outdoor only use of facilities.
    Govt ministers are asleep at the wheel so what we need is a grouping of FAI/GAA/Sport Ireland/AAI etc. to push this.

    Attendance at events seems to be non runner at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Both athletics and GAA are outdoor sports so if opened together with leaving of indoor facilities closed they both pose no risk to numbers at all.

    The NPHET team are devoid of personality or social lives so they don't make considerations for this, it's up to Govt ministers and sports organizations to lobby for opening up with outdoor only use of facilities.
    Govt ministers are asleep at the wheel so what we need is a grouping of FAI/GAA/Sport Ireland/AAI etc. to push this.

    Attendance at events seems to be non runner at this stage.

    https://assets.gov.ie/77248/22897874-f11b-42d7-a708-4115063b009c.pdf

    Interesting to see that the Big 3 sports are the only ones with direct representation here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Both athletics and GAA are outdoor sports so if opened together with leaving of indoor facilities closed they both pose no risk to numbers at all.

    The NPHET team are devoid of personality or social lives so they don't make considerations for this, it's up to Govt ministers and sports organizations to lobby for opening up with outdoor only use of facilities.
    Govt ministers are asleep at the wheel so what we need is a grouping of FAI/GAA/Sport Ireland/AAI etc. to push this.

    Attendance at events seems to be non runner at this stage.
    personal attacks of nphet members just makes your entire post seem silly and childish even though your point is valid. As Chivito said a few posts back nphet only care about public health, the government must balance their advice with whats good for the nation as a whole. You may disagree very strongly with the way things are done and you may be right but leave out the nonsense as it weakens yiur argument.
    The GAA was not deemed elite in the most recent restrictions because it suited the GAA, if it had not suited the GAA it would have been changed in whatever time frame and manner was necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    There's no question Gaelic football is the most popular sport in the country. This can't be argued. Purely anecdotal but I know probably over 100 people personally who are mad into it.

    But this isn't about what sport is popular and what is less so. This is supposed to be about a virus. Therefore all outdoor sporting competitions that have been deemed non-elite should be treated the same, and should follow the same roadmap back.

    Saying that this is a move to lift the spirits of the nation is total BS. The government do not give a f**k about any of us. That is fairly clear throughout this pandemic. If they cared about us then perhaps they would not have halted housing construction and caused a significant inflation in the price of houses, eroding the savings that those working from home have made, and making houses even more unaffordable for those who have not been able to work at all during this.

    Don't for a second think the government cares about any of us. Don't be so foolish. And don't think fast tracking senior intercounty GAA's return is some mental health investment they are making on behalf of the public.




    Elite is the issue here with most.
    So the elite level of each county is back playing inter county matches, only the senior guys.


    So would the best way around this, only top 10 of 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m etc in the country compete at the track meets in Ireland right now?


    I can see no justification for me to be allowed to run at a track meet.

    Hopefully come June all levels be allowed to compete on the track.

    Now I know some will say Leitirm hurlers can't be consider elite. so maybe the top 2 from the county instead of top 10 per sport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Elite is the issue here with most.
    So the elite level of each county is back playing inter county matches, only the senior guys.


    So would the best way around this, only top 10 of 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m etc in the country compete at the track meets in Ireland right now?


    I can see no justification for me to be allowed to run at a track meet.

    Hopefully come June all levels be allowed to compete on the track.

    Now I know some will say Leitirm hurlers can't be consider elite. so maybe the top 2 from the county instead of top 10 per sport

    Haha, very good, so the best 20 or so hurlers in Leitrim can compete but only the best 10 400m runners in all of Ireland should compete.

    Sounds fair...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Haha, very good, so the best 20 or so hurlers in Leitrim can compete but only the best 10 400m runners in all of Ireland should compete.

    Sounds fair...

    As a Tipperary man I feel thats very unfair really.
    No disrespect to Leitrim, but I feel we would have far more than 20 hurlers that would be better than the Leitrim team. :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I don't think you and your friends are the GAA's target market in fairness.
    Inner city football jersey wearer in I don't like GAA shocker. :pac:

    The GAA does far more for this country than sink estate Dubs will ever realise.

    What?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Haha, very good, so the best 20 or so hurlers in Leitrim can compete but only the best 10 400m runners in all of Ireland should compete.

    Sounds fair...

    Or Athletics Ireland set the standard for each event. It cant be open to all, as no sport is right now


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    MayoSalmon wrote: »




    Nothing new there, it was already known before covid, outside fitness is the best for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Nothing new there, it was already known before covid, outside fitness is the best for you.

    The point is the government who sold us the "two weeks to flatten the curve" have not once promoted things you can do to boost your immune system from Covid...in fact they have done the opposite, closed down all sports and actively told you to stay inside/home for 9 straight months...soon to be 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Not to mention the attitude from certain quarters that you were "selfish" for "indulging" in outdoor exercise when you should have been staying inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭opus


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    The point is the government who sold us the "two weeks to flatten the curve" have not once promoted things you can do to boost your immune system from Covid...in fact they have done the opposite, closed down all sports and actively told you to stay inside/home for 9 straight months...soon to be 10.

    Glad I ignored that advise as one particularly wet & miserable w/end in April last year showed me that getting out for some sort of a run was important if I wanted to stay someway sane. I remember heading up a deserted Patrick St in Cork & passing someone else out for a run going the other way. Not a street that people would normally be running on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    The point is the government who sold us the "two weeks to flatten the curve" have not once promoted things you can do to boost your immune system from Covid...in fact they have done the opposite, closed down all sports and actively told you to stay inside/home for 9 straight months...soon to be 10.

    The government couldn't really come out at tell people to go out and exercise, and get some sun to aid vit D production, (without sun block).
    People would have just went out then, which would have went against their message to stay at home. And some gob**** trying to sue them in a few years for skin cancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Ceepo wrote:
    and get some sun to aid vit D production, (without sun block).

    FWIW your skin produces a lot of vitamin D even when wearing sunscreen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Stark wrote: »
    FWIW your skin produces a lot of vitamin D even when wearing sunscreen.

    Ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    The point is the government who sold us the "two weeks to flatten the curve" have not once promoted things you can do to boost your immune system from Covid...in fact they have done the opposite, closed down all sports and actively told you to stay inside/home for 9 straight months...soon to be 10.




    They said you could exercise outside on your own, never stopped that unlike some other countries.


    We could train in groups from last May till Dec .


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Getting loads of "memories" in the last couple of days from Facebook and my photo backup apps with various pictures of going for runs around London in years past around this time. A year ago I was figuring out the flattest route possible starting and finishing at my front door, without needing to do laps, and hopefully not getting abuse from the villagers who'd recently put up this sign on the cycle path into their village on my route, and had been on the local news complaining about cyclists spreading the rona through their village.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/G487W4ANMYHBQz2y6

    The sign is still there a year later. :(

    Other than that village, the Derbyshire police force (who fined people for having a take away coffee on a walk) and the "study" on people catching covid from being on the opposite side of the road from a runner, there thankfully hasn't been any restrictions on solo activities in the UK throughout this. I remain hopeful that at least the likes of the 5mile I did last week and the marathon this weekend are going to continue to be permitted. Things will have to start improving in Ireland soon with the lifting of restrictions around activities.

    I've only just got round to checking the weather forecast for this weekends marathon, and I'd normally have been looking at that for the last couple of weeks at least.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    They said you could exercise outside on your own, never stopped that unlike some other countries.


    We could train in groups from last May till Dec .

    Not that easy to run outside in the depths of winter if you live in rural Ireland. Little or no public lighting, no footpaths and sometimes dangerous narrow roads. The 5k exercise limit was very restrictive and to me totally illogical, especially given you’re highly unlikely to contract Covid outside.

    The message rammed home was stay at home, there was little to no thought given to the mental or physical benefits of exercise.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    I never stopped running through these lockdowns. I became more aware of where I was running & the times so adjusted accordingly. The 2k & 5k restrictions where pointless IMO.

    On a more positive note a motion on Emergency Mental Health has been passed today, some good suggestions for the services, hopefully something comes of it as most of the services are pinned to the collar at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Not that easy to run outside in the depths of winter if you live in rural Ireland. Little or no public lighting, no footpaths and sometimes dangerous narrow roads. The 5k exercise limit was very restrictive and to me totally illogical, especially given you’re highly unlikely to contract Covid outside.

    The message rammed home was stay at home, there was little to no thought given to the mental or physical benefits of exercise.

    TbL

    Always found the "Stay at home" message quite insensitive to the many people who are homeless, numbers which will continue to rise in the years to come due to the illogical decision to halt construction.

    FG and FF are doing themselves long term damage with these destructive measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    The checkpoints are over now.
    McEntee said as much the other evening when quizzed about people from the NW heading to Enniskillen for a haircut.

    Planning on a trip across country in the next few weeks, have been told if you get fined to avoid paying it as they don't have a leg to stand on if it goes to court.

    Over 5,000 unpaid, not a hope these are going to court.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/almost-5-000-facing-court-prosecution-for-non-payment-of-covid-19-fines-1.4527367


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Always found the "Stay at home" message quite insensitive to the many people who are homeless, numbers which will continue to rise in the years to come due to the illogical decision to halt construction.

    FG and FF are doing themselves long term damage with these destructive measures.




    Blaming the housing crisis on the delay in construction is an easy excuse. Construction has being on going throughout this whole lockdown.


    Since Jan, two complete housing estates near us, both for social housing were completed and these were big projects.


    One of the main reasons for the homeless, is new estates don't want social housing in them, hence the increase in homeless!!.


    Can't say prices are the issue, as they are still way lower than the early 00's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Not that easy to run outside in the depths of winter if you live in rural Ireland. Little or no public lighting, no footpaths and sometimes dangerous narrow roads. The 5k exercise limit was very restrictive and to me totally illogical, especially given you’re highly unlikely to contract Covid outside.

    The message rammed home was stay at home, there was little to no thought given to the mental or physical benefits of exercise.

    TbL




    So where would you train if no lockdown? 5k limit was not really enforced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    So where would you train if no lockdown? 5k limit was not really enforced

    I’d have driven to either a track or towards the city that did have footpaths and lights.

    Your point is irrelevant, people were told to stay at home unless for essential reasons or exercise within 5k

    The cyclists fined for exercising outside 5k might disagree with you

    TbL


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Bgiraffe


    Not that easy to run outside in the depths of winter if you live in rural Ireland. Little or no public lighting, no footpaths and sometimes dangerous narrow roads.

    Just a little side note on this as a rural resident. I'd been in exactly the situation you outlined for many years, with kids and work I can only really get out in the evenings. But for half the year there's only dangerous dark roads to train on. It's literally deadly dangerous. So I fell out of proper running for years.

    The local GAA club opened a walking/running track last autumn. It's floodlit and open until 10pm. What a game changer. Been running three nights a week on it since it opened. Done a half marathon last weekend, signed in for Belfast marathon in September. Literally wouldn't have been possible for me without floodlit facilities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    https://www.thejournal.ie/libraries-and-sports-centres-across-dublin-to-open-for-public-toilets-under-council-plans-5416999-Apr2021/?utm_source=shortlink

    Irishtown Stadium to open very soon, but don't get too excited, it's toilets only... Not the track!

    Every day this country surprises me in unimaginable ways.


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