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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,288 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    2 members tested positive. But showed no symptoms and no proof that it spread to anyone else.

    Good indication that vaccines work for the most part


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    390 new cases.

    11 additional deaths (4 in April, 2 in March, 4 in February and 1 in January.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    If you scroll down you'll see a handful of areas reporting larger numbers of possible covid than normal, in particular I'm looking at Laois, Monaghan Dublin 22 & Dublin 13. Some didn't report for a few days etc.

    The clinically likely covid is on par with last week.

    GP buddy is a good tool but I've found it recently to be quite limited given the fluctuation in respondents

    Cases will rise over the coming weeks and months, that’s for sure. As we open up we will inevitably see this occur, possibly quite quickly, however this time we really must avoid any knee jerk panic and trust the vaccination program has broken that link between cases and hospitalisations especially in the elderly and vulnerable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,027 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    390 new cases.

    11 additional deaths (4 in April, 2 in March, 4 in February and 1 in January.)
    I'm pretty sure I've seen in it somewhere in the thread, but someone else probably has a better idea where to find it - was there a resource somewhere listing deaths by when they occurred as opposed to when they were announced?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,667 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    zinfandel wrote: »
    is that not the thing... even vaccinated , you can still catch it and spread it , but you should not get sick, which is why vaccinated people should still use masks in public places...

    Exactly, this is being lost on some people who think vaccinated people are immune from catching and spreading which is not the case.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Cases will rise over the coming weeks and months, that’s for sure. As we open up we will inevitably see this occur, possibly quite quickly, however this time we really must avoid any knee jerk panic and trust the vaccination program has broken that link between cases and hospitalisations especially in the elderly and vulnerable.


    Hopefully they won't rise or rise very much as the vaccines (studies still ongoing) start to stop mass transmission.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Bit of a bummer, after having had second does in February:

    Dealgan House Nursing Home in Dundalk, Co Louth, has confirmed that two staff have tested positive for Covid-19.

    It said the staff had been fully vaccinated and had their second dose in February.

    They were found to have the virus recently during routine serial testing, which is conducted fortnightly in the home.

    The staff had displayed no symptoms.

    The nursing home said that all residents there have been vaccinated and it has temporarily suspended visits pending advice from public health.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2021/0420/1211006-deaglan-house/


    I know it's possible to contract Covid after being fully vaccinated, and given they weren't sick, it's still good. Unless it's the scariants!

    To be expected and this is worth a read.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1381327338533699587


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,522 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I’m surprised that the possibility of false positives isn’t being investigated here.


    The prevalence of false positives is something that has never really been part of the conversation in regards to this.

    Let’s be honest, we know this governments track record on medical testing. It’s perfectly reasonable to assume a percentage of false
    Positives in daily cases.

    You also have to be cognisant of the fact that the vaccine does not necessarily stop you contracting the virus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Szero


    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Bit of a bummer, after having had second does in February:

    Dealgan House Nursing Home in Dundalk, Co Louth, has confirmed that two staff have tested positive for Covid-19.

    It said the staff had been fully vaccinated and had their second dose in February.

    They were found to have the virus recently during routine serial testing, which is conducted fortnightly in the home.

    The staff had displayed no symptoms.

    The nursing home said that all residents there have been vaccinated and it has temporarily suspended visits pending advice from public health.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2021/0420/1211006-deaglan-house/


    I know it's possible to contract Covid after being fully vaccinated, and given they weren't sick, it's still good. Unless it's the scariants!

    It might be pedantic... but they have not tested positive for covid-19.. they have tested positive for coronavirus. The fact that they have no symptoms at all. indicates that it has not developed into covid-19


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Szero wrote: »
    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128

    Even if everyone is vaccinated, it will spread in some way when we reopen and travel is reopened. No vaccine is 100% effective.

    People will get sick, hospitalised and will unfortunately die from Covid-19 but the numbers of those who do will be a tiny fraction of those that would have had it run riot on a population with no immunisation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    JP100 wrote: »
    The inevitable consequence of schools being back and now back fully this time around.

    :rolleyes: your daily post... again


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,522 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    JP100 wrote: »
    The inevitable consequence of schools being back and now back fully this time around.

    Do you just copy and paste?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭pauldry


    390 cases

    Dublin Meath and Kildare 234

    23 other counties 156

    Surely it's time to open for business outside Dublin


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    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Denmark said the vaccines are too dangerous for them to use so are kindly giving them to poorer countries....as for here in ireland we are now skipping the over 60s group and instead the vaccines will be giving to younger people....at least that way the side effects might not show up until years later and sure by then who'd care

    It never ceases to amaze has utterly clueless some are


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    AZ the gift that keeps on giving

    45,000 due Saturday now down to 9,000


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Szero wrote: »
    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128

    He’s telling the population the truth. About the inevitable wave, but also about living with it. I wish our government would


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,981 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Szero wrote: »
    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128

    NPHET will recommend another lockdown for when that occurs i'm sure

    Even if there's medicines out there, 'just to be sure and protect the health system'


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,689 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    AZ the gift that keeps on giving

    45,000 due Saturday now down to 9,000

    Here we go again. So many issues with them wonder are HSE better off factoring in massive shortfalls each time into their modelling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hooter23 View Post
    Denmark said the vaccines are too dangerous for them to use so are kindly giving them to poorer countries....as for here in ireland we are now skipping the over 60s group and instead the vaccines will be giving to younger people....at least that way the side effects might not show up until years later and sure by then who'd care

    It never ceases to amaze has utterly clueless some are

    How was that post clueless?? No one has a bulls notion what will happen in the future, do remember we are only a few months into the Human trails ...

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,539 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Szero wrote: »
    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128

    Interesting that Boris said "firmly" that there would be another "wave".

    If correct, what will cause the "wave"? Will it be a combo of the un-vaccinated, children who have not yet got the vaccine and some waning of the vaccines?

    Could it be a wave of mild infections?

    I have seen some people comment that they expect cases to increase in the late Autumn but surely, if that happens, it will be mainly mild cases, manageable and not requiring any big restrictions? Except perhaps some light guidance such as work from home if possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    JTMan wrote: »
    Interesting that Boris said "firmly" that there would be another "wave".

    If correct, what will cause the "wave"? Will it be a combo of the un-vaccinated, children who have not yet got the vaccine and some waning of the vaccines?

    Could it be a wave of mild infections?

    I have seen some people comment that they expect cases to increase in the late Autumn but surely, if that happens, it will be mainly mild cases, manageable and not requiring any big restrictions? Except perhaps some light guidance such as work from home if possible.

    I would say he is preparing UK for the possibility that now that they have rising cases of variants of concern for which their vaccination program may not be as effective due to the longer intervals between the mRNA vaccines that they adopted.
    It was a risk which has paid off in the short term , but may come back to bite them .
    Hopefully not .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Szero wrote: »
    Boris says there will be another wave later this year.

    Thoughts on this?

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1384541079370928128


    Boris and Co have a strong focus on booster vaccines and the best way to get a high percentage of population to take those boosters is to give a strong public warning about another wave later this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭DaSilva


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    ... for which their vaccination program may not be as effective due to the longer intervals between the mRNA vaccines that they adopted.
    It was a risk which has paid off in the short term , but may come back to bite them .
    Hopefully not .

    No, just no. Conventional science suggests longer intervals are better, not worse.

    The intervals chosen by the vaccine companies were the shortest intervals they could do while still gaining the effect of being booster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    DaSilva wrote: »
    No, just no. Conventional science suggests longer intervals are better, not worse.

    The intervals chosen by the vaccine companies were the shortest intervals they could do while still gaining the effect of being booster.


    In the context of all scientific fora except UK saying stick to what was tested for in the trials , I think the burden of proof is firmly back to you there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    DaSilva wrote: »
    No, just no. Conventional science suggests longer intervals are better, not worse.

    The intervals chosen by the vaccine companies were the shortest intervals they could do while still gaining the effect of being booster.

    If second dose of Pfizer is given at a longer interval, in cancer patients and other vulnerable groups the efficacy drops to nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Hard for anyone to know what motivated Borris to make his statement(s).


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Mirafiori


    Boris and Co have a strong focus on booster vaccines and the best way to get a high percentage of population to take those boosters is to give a strong public warning about another wave later this year.

    Is there a concern that the 12 week interval could see people feel less inclined to take the second jab, as opposed to the shorter 4 week interval? Are you suggesting this is what they may be concerned about? I suppose the mood music in terms of the imperative to be vaccinated will be very different 12 weeks later in some cases, depending on when the first dose was administered. The upbeat atmosphere associated with lifting restrictions could conceivably backfire (or the UK government might be afraid of this).


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    saabsaab wrote: »
    Hard for anyone to know what motivated Borris to make his statement(s).

    AZ is still technically in trials in some of the countries where the variants of concern are prevalent. They've been heavily reliant on that vaccine, maybe he's been privy to some early data.


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