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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

  • 24-03-2021 9:57pm
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    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Deja vu all over again - Level 5 for probably another thread at least - but will April 5th see some changes?

    Previous threads:

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    Thread II
    Thread III
    Thread IV
    Thread V
    Thread VI
    Thread VII
    Thread VIII
    Thread IX
    Thread X
    Thread XI
    Thread XII
    Thread XIII
    Thread XIV
    Thread XV
    Thread XVI
    Thread XVII
    Thread XVIII
    Thread XIX
    Thread XX
    Thread XXI
    Thread XXII
    Thread XXIII
    Thread XXIV
    Thread XXV
    Thread XXVI
    Thread XXVII
    Thread XXVIII
    Thread XXIX
    Thread XXX
    Thread XXXI
    Thread XXXII
    Thread XXXIII

    The new daily numbers thread

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,900 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    *stretches arms out wide*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Renault 5


    Transmission in the community, cases go up, cases get into schools.

    Schools in Munster and Connacht largely unaffected due to low number of cases. Why should all schools close nationwide because there's uncontrolled transmission in a few counties.

    They shouldn’t. Open them up. Send them back. Along with lifting more restrictions for the public.

    Cases go up. Blame the public.

    Cases go down. Government and nphet w4nk each other off.

    We were locked down to protect the elderly.

    Now they want to give the elderly more freedom and still keep the rest of us locked down.

    People can now visit care homes - I can’t visit my 81 year old mam who lives at home.

    Can anyone explain wtf is going on?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,900 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So, I was curious if the new walk in testing centres might in any way diminish the reliability of GP referral data to be the "canary in the mine".

    I asked Dr. Knut.

    His reply:

    "Potentially, though supposedly these are in areas of high disease activity already, so the ship might have sailed on the early warning by the time self referral for testing - have to wait and see how and where self-referral will be rolled out."


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,900 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    So, I was curious if the new walk in testing centres might in any way diminish the reliability of GP referral data to be the "canary in the mine".

    I asked Dr. Knut.

    His reply:

    "Potentially, though supposedly these are in areas of high disease activity already, so the ship might have sailed on the early warning by the time self referral for testing - have to wait and see how and where self-referral will be rolled out."

    What may be a factor too, only today I saw that people who have symptoms are not to go to these testing centres. So I assume they will go to their GP instead.
    GP referrals should still be a good metric then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    So, I was curious if the new walk in testing centres might in any way diminish the reliability of GP referral data to be the "canary in the mine".

    I asked Dr. Knut.

    His reply:

    "Potentially, though supposedly these are in areas of high disease activity already, so the ship might have sailed on the early warning by the time self referral for testing - have to wait and see how and where self-referral will be rolled out."

    The key to the walk-in centres, which most countries had established 12 months ago is the tracing infrastructure if that’s not there we will just have more cases and still no clue where Typhoid Mary is hiding.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    The key to the walk-in centres, which most countries had established 12 months ago is the tracing infrastructure if that’s not there we will just have more cases and still no clue where Typhoid Mary is hiding.

    You mean Somebody McSomebody :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Must be a first.

    New thread for this and the relaxation loons on the same day at the same time.

    Coincidental


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Must be a first.

    New thread for this and the relaxation loons on the same day at the same time.

    Coincidental

    Also closed on the exact same number of posts - the stars have aligned...

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Presume those pop up testing centers are going to lead to an increase in positive cases and some lovely bonus worry for our government


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    From the first page of the first thread, January 22nd last year
    Every few years we have a terrifying, apocalyptic pandemic. Will always turn out to be nothing (until it turns out to be something)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Could this be the last doom and gloom one? And the next one full of hope and pictures of staycation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    AdamD wrote: »
    Presume those pop up testing centers are going to lead to an increase in positive cases and some lovely bonus worry for our government

    Im already deeply concerned for the 101st time since the last time. I suggest holding firm, just another few weeks, and its important to always remember that we are always in this together for what feels like forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Could this be the last doom and gloom one? And the next one full of hope and pictures of staycation

    Last what. Year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Another from January 22nd last year

    Page 2 of the first thread
    it's killed 6, so far. and its only just started


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,900 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Could this be the last doom and gloom one? And the next one full of hope and pictures of staycation

    will-there-ever-be-a-rainbow-cmb.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Aph2016


    So what are the latest statistics for covid 19 deaths including:

    Ages
    With/without morbidities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,259 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Necro wrote: »
    Deja vu all over again - Level 5 for probably another thread at least - but will April 5th see some changes?

    Previous threads:

    Thread I
    Thread II
    Thread III
    Thread IV
    Thread V
    Thread VI
    Thread VII
    Thread VIII
    Thread IX
    Thread X
    Thread XI
    Thread XII
    Thread XIII
    Thread XIV
    Thread XV
    Thread XVI
    Thread XVII
    Thread XVIII
    Thread XIX
    Thread XX
    Thread XXI
    Thread XXII
    Thread XXIII
    Thread XXIV
    Thread XXV
    Thread XXVI
    Thread XXVII
    Thread XXVIII
    Thread XXIX
    Thread XXX
    Thread XXXI
    Thread XXXII
    Thread XXXIII

    The new daily numbers thread

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    Has to be a record number of threadbanned on boards.
    Impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Stheno wrote: »
    You mean Somebody McSomebody :D

    In other countries they go hard on the track and trace to find the potential infected fast that is not done in Ireland and until they start going back more than just three days it’ll never work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 310 (down from 325 last night)
    ICU 75 (down from 76 last night)

    Last Wednesday
    Total 343
    ICU 82


    New lowest daily total of 2021.
    Lowest number since 26th December.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Stay at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Stay at home

    And wash your hands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    1616613631676.png

    So its basically just kids who are very unlikely to even have symptoms.

    [and a couple of 30yo people reliving what life was like back in the good old days]


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    AdamD wrote: »
    Presume those pop up testing centers are going to lead to an increase in positive cases and some lovely bonus worry for our government

    Can the sh*te not invade every thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 310 (down from 325 last night)
    ICU 75 (down from 1 last night)

    Last Wednesday
    Total 343
    ICU 82


    New lowest daily total of 2021.
    Lowest number since 26th December.

    Seems to be back on the downward trend again finally!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭cjyid


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 310 (down from 325 last night)
    ICU 75 (down from 76 last night)

    Last Wednesday
    Total 343
    ICU 82


    New lowest daily total of 2021.
    Lowest number since 26th December.

    Nice start to a new thread !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    888169.jpg?b64lines=IENBTiBZT1UgSU1BR0lORSBBIFdPUkxECiBXSVRIT1VUIE5QSEVUPw==

    A much more accurate meme would be. Can you imagine a day when the government stops hiding behind NPHET and comes up with a plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Arnold54321


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 310 (down from 325 last night)
    ICU 75 (down from 1 last night)

    Last Wednesday
    Total 343
    ICU 82


    New lowest daily total of 2021.

    The question is does the total figure 310 of which 75 in ICU merit another month of Level 5 lockdown?? We should be well under 300 in hospital by the weekend.

    I personally don't think so, madness if the 5k rule or a different distance rule of say 10 or 20k remains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Has to be a record number of threadbanned on boards.
    Impressive.

    Should be an amnesty for all, start again, it would be our best chance of entertainment at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Stay at home

    Hold firm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭almostover


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Hold firm.

    We're all in this together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 310 (down from 325 last night)
    ICU 75 (down from 76 last night)

    Last Wednesday
    Total 343
    ICU 82


    New lowest daily total of 2021.
    Lowest number since 26th December.

    Good stuff. Unfortunately the daily case numbers get all the attention when most of them at this stage are in younger people with very low risk of severe disease or hospitalisation. A refocus is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    The question is does the total figure 310 of which 75 in ICU merit another month of Level 5 lockdown?? We should be well under 300 in hospital by the weekend.

    I personally don't think so, madness if the 5k rule or a different distance rule of say 10 or 20k remains.

    The main problem is there is no alternative to a hard lockdown because the government have no ambitions to come with a different plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Batattackrat


    Hospital numbers are low, I'd rather people just stop getting tested at this stage if they are even slightly sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Hospital numbers are low, I'd rather people just stop getting tested at this stage if they are even slightly sick.

    This x1000

    Numbers are flying down in the vulnerable age groups. Testing needs to stop being a thing fast. Hospital metrics need to be expanded and become the *only* indicator in a post COVID ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Hospital numbers are low, I'd rather people just stop getting tested at this stage if they are even slightly sick.

    There was an episode off the Simpson’s were there was an asteroid coming to hit the town. The population were all in a panic but in the end the thing burnt up in the atmosphere. One of the crowd that had gathered shouted out “let’s go burn down the observatory so this never happens again”


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Good stuff. Unfortunately the daily case numbers get all the attention when most of them at this stage are in younger people with very low risk of severe disease or hospitalisation. A refocus is needed.

    But, but, but......long covid.....variants......moving goalposts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    This x1000

    Numbers are flying down in the vulnerable age groups. Testing needs to stop being a thing fast. Hospital metrics need to be expanded and become the *only* indicator in a post COVID ireland.

    Testing needs to continue, but the overwhelming focus on the daily announcement/press conference of case numbers needs to come to an end. It's not helping at this stage and just causes more anxiety and hysteria.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hospital numbers are low, I'd rather people just stop getting tested at this stage if they are even slightly sick.

    Because knowing if you could pass it on to someone more vulnerable or with more vulnerable relatives is not important


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Has to be a record number of threadbanned on boards.
    Impressive.

    I suspect a record number of posts (311,347 up to the end of thread XXXIII) has something to do with that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Batattackrat


    Because knowing if you could pass it on to someone more vulnerable or with more vulnerable relatives is not important

    That's what the vacinnes are for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Because knowing if you could pass it on to someone more vulnerable or with more vulnerable relatives is not important

    Even with school going back the vulnerable ages showed dramatic decreases in infections. Its time to start facing the reality of what has been left behind by this utter mess.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's what the vacinnes are for.

    So stop testing when only 3.5% are fully vaccinated? Interesting proposal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭greenheep


    That's what the vacinnes are for.

    Is there any reason to get tested if you have no close contacts over the past few days and you plan to restrict movements anyway? Like there is no advantage to the person or to others?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Even with school going back the vulnerable ages showed dramatic decreases in infections. Its time to start facing the reality of what has been left behind by this utter mess.

    Started


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Even with school going back the vulnerable ages showed dramatic decreases in infections. Its time to start facing the reality of what has been left behind by this utter mess.

    They should close the schools for two weeks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Batattackrat


    So stop testing when only 3.5% are fully vaccinated? Interesting proposal

    Have you seen the current hospital numbers. 400 or so out of a population of 4,900,000.

    A third caught it in hospital and others have underlying conditions.

    Services such as screening for cancer are at an all time mess.

    The cancer scandal when this is over is going to make us realize we overcompensated big time for Covid.

    Also the economic impact is going to be nothing like Ireland has seen before.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    Have you seen the current hospital numbers. 400 or so out of a population of 4,900,000.

    Nphet are still blowing it out of all proportion. How many have cancer undetected because of these drama queens?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


      They should close the schools for two weeks

      And nephet, put them on the pup


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      greenheep wrote: »
      Is there any reason to get tested if you have no close contacts over the past few days and you plan to restrict movements anyway? Like there is no advantage to the person or to others?

      If you were to need further treatment for whatever was making you ill, knowing if it was Covid or not as early as possible would make a difference. I’d want to know if I lived alone, if only for that reason.


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